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11-02-2011, 04:50 PM
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The Thrashers could have had a Sedin, as well as anyone not named Alex Bourret or Boris Valabik.
The Sedins made it known they were only coming to the NHL if they played on the same team. Even if they drafted one of the Sedins, they would have never played for them. The Canucks had the 1st and 3rd pick. Brian Burke literally strong-armed the Thrashers GM into swapping the 2nd overall pick for the 1st overall as long as he drafted Stefan or Brendl.

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11-02-2011, 04:59 PM
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Toews instead of Staal

Loui Eriksson instead of Ryan Stone, who was drafted with the pick just before LE.


All other draft picks can stay



Kunitz Crosby Eriksson
Toews Malkin Neal
Cooke Dupuis Kennedy

Might as well give us the imaginary stanley cup now.

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11-02-2011, 05:01 PM
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The Sedins made it known they were only coming to the NHL if they played on the same team. Even if they drafted one of the Sedins, they would have never played for them. The Canucks had the 1st and 3rd pick. Brian Burke literally strong-armed the Thrashers GM into swapping the 2nd overall pick for the 1st overall as long as he drafted Stefan or Brendl.
I read an article that says the exact opposite. The Sedins were prepared, and willing, to play on 2 different teams.

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I'll be somewhat realistic with mine (same round near our pick)

i'll go back to 2000 draft

In 2000, Hawks drafted Yakubov and Vorobiev with the 10th and 11th picks we could of had Brooks Orpik and Anton Volchenkov(or Brad Boyes)

In 2001, Hawks drafted Tuomu Ruutu with the 9th pick, not that bad of a pick (we traded him for Ladd) Could of had Hamhuis or Hemsky, or Umberger, but I prefer Ladd.

In 2002, Hawks drafted Anton Babchuk at #21, could of had Cam Ward.

In 2003, Hawks drafted Seabrook at #14, could of had Parise or Getzlaf, but Seabrook isn't a bad choice.

In 2004, (a bad one), we drafted Cam Barker at #3, and could of had Andrew Ladd, or Drew Stafford, or Alexander Radulov.

In 2005, (the worst one) Hawks drafted Jack Skille with the 7th pick, they could of had Anze Kopitar, Devin Setoguchi, or Marc Staal. YUCK!!!

In 2006, we drafted Toews at #3........can't get any better than that.

In 2007 we drafted Kane at #1.......can't get any better than that.

In 2008 we drafted Beach at #11, could of had Myers, Karlsson, or Eberle.

In 2009 we drafted Dylan Olsen at #28, could of had Ryan O'Reilly

So,

Ladd - Toews - Kane
Sharp - Getzlaf - Kopitar
Ruutu - Bolland - Eberle
Stalberg - O'Reilly - Mayers

Keith - Volchenkov
Hjalmarsson - Orpik
O'Donnell - Montador

Cam Ward
Corey Crawford

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11-02-2011, 05:06 PM
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If I made better draft choices the Stars would probably still look the same. I don't remember the last time Stars management called me for draft advice.
That's because they called me first and told them pick Scott Glennie lol

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11-02-2011, 05:08 PM
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The Sedins made it known they were only coming to the NHL if they played on the same team. Even if they drafted one of the Sedins, they would have never played for them. The Canucks had the 1st and 3rd pick. Brian Burke literally strong-armed the Thrashers GM into swapping the 2nd overall pick for the 1st overall as long as he drafted Stefan or Brendl.
I don't get where this rumour comes from. I watched the draft and during the interview after they were selected, they were surprised they got drafted by the same team. They said - in no uncertain terms - that they expected to start their NHL careers on 2 different teams. That means they clearly were ready to play in the NHL on different teams. They also said that into their careers with all the criticism they received and the tough start in the NHL they considered going back to Sweden, so maybe if they weren't playing together they may not have stayed, but unless they were flat out lying during their post-draft interview, they had every intention of starting on different NHL teams.

As far as the Canucks picks go, the team they could have now depends on how early they could have changed their picks... Do we go back to the late 80's and take Sakic instead of Linden? Jagr instead of Nedved?

Just going back to 2004 for example:

Sedin-Sedin-Franzen
Benn-Kesler-Callahan
Lucic-Bolland-Simmonds
Burrows-Lapierre-Hansen

Staal - Myers
Yandle - Letang
Hamhuis - Subban

Rinne
Riemer

Go back further and you can add Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Kronwall, ... Hell you could just draft like Detroit!

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- The Habs drafted Ben Maxwell with the 49th overall pick in 2006. Milan Lucic was drafted 50th overall.

- They also could've drafted the big, elite centre they've perpetually been looking for in either Ryan Getzlaf or Ryan Kesler in 03, they drafted Andrei Kostitsyn.

- Claude Giroux (22nd overall in 06) instead of David Fischer (20th overall in 06)

- Patrice Bergeron (45th overall in 03) instead of Cory Urquhart (40th overall)

- David Backes (62nd overall in 03) instead of Maxim Lapierre (63rd overall)

- And just for the sake of argument (even though I'm very much happy with this pick): David Perron (26th overall in 07), instead of Max Pacioretty (22nd overall)

Backes - Getzlaf - Lucic

Giroux - Bergeron - Perron


The French media would implode , they'd have nothing to complain about.


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11-02-2011, 05:30 PM
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I'll be somewhat realistic with mine (same round near our pick)

i'll go back to 2000 draft

In 2000, Hawks drafted Yakubov and Vorobiev with the 10th and 11th picks we could of had Brooks Orpik and Anton Volchenkov(or Brad Boyes)

In 2001, Hawks drafted Tuomu Ruutu with the 9th pick, not that bad of a pick (we traded him for Ladd) Could of had Hamhuis or Hemsky, or Umberger, but I prefer Ladd.

In 2002, Hawks drafted Anton Babchuk at #21, could of had Cam Ward.

In 2003, Hawks drafted Seabrook at #14, could of had Parise or Getzlaf, but Seabrook isn't a bad choice.

In 2004, (a bad one), we drafted Cam Barker at #3, and could of had Andrew Ladd, or Drew Stafford, or Alexander Radulov.

In 2005, (the worst one) Hawks drafted Jack Skille with the 7th pick, they could of had Anze Kopitar, Devin Setoguchi, or Marc Staal. YUCK!!!

In 2006, we drafted Toews at #3........can't get any better than that.

In 2007 we drafted Kane at #1.......can't get any better than that.

In 2008 we drafted Beach at #11, could of had Myers, Karlsson, or Eberle.

In 2009 we drafted Dylan Olsen at #28, could of had Ryan O'Reilly

So,

Ladd - Toews - Kane
Sharp - Getzlaf - Kopitar
Ruutu - Bolland - Eberle
Stalberg - O'Reilly - Mayers

Keith - Volchenkov
Hjalmarsson - Orpik
O'Donnell - Montador

Cam Ward
Corey Crawford
thats a really good team this is what i want to see

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11-02-2011, 05:37 PM
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NY Rangers (going back to the 2000 draft up to 2009 since it gets fuzzy and most players from '09 ; I'll only really be dealing with picks in rounds 1~3; bolded are drafted by and still play for the Rangers)

2000
Drafted: Filip Novak (64th); Dominic Moore (95th)

Would have picked: Lubomir Visnovsky (118th)..don't know who else really.


2001
Drafted: Dan Blackburn (10th); Fedor Tyutin (40th); Garth Murray (79th)

Would have picked: RJ Umberger (16th); Mike Cammalleri (49th); Patrick Sharp (95th)


2002
Drafted: Lee Falardeau (33rd); Petr Kanko (66th)

Would have picked: Duncan Keith (54th); Val Filppula (95th)


2003
Drafted: Hugh Jessiman (12th); Ivan Baranka (50th); Ken Roche (75th)

Would have picked: Mike Richards (24th); David Backes (62nd); Dustin Byfuglien (245th)


2004
Drafted: Al Montoya (6th); Lauri Korpikoski (19th); Darin Oliver (36th); Dane Byers (48th); Bruce Graham (51st); Brandon Dubinsky (60th); Zdenek Bahensky (73rd); Billie Ryan (80th); Ryan Callahan (127th)

Would have picked: Drew Stafford (13th); Corey Schneider (26th); Blake Comeau (47th); David Booth (53rd), Brandon Dubinsky (60th); Johan Franzen (97th); Ryan Callahan (127th); Mikhail Grabovski (150th)


2005
Drafted: Marc Staal (12th); Mike Sauer (40th); Marc-Andre Cliche (56th); Brodie Dupont (66th); Dalyn Flatt (77th)

Would have picked: Marc Staal (12th); Mike Sauer (40th); Kris Letang (62nd); Niklas Hjalmarsson (108th); Darren Helm (132nd)


2006
Drafted: Bob Sanguinetti (21st); Artem Anisimov (54th); Ryan Hillier (84th)

Would have picked: Claude Giroux (22nd); Steve Mason (69th); Brad Marchand (71st)


2007
Drafted: Alexei Cherepanov (17th); Antione Lafleur (48th)

Would have picked: PK Subban (43rd); I guess TJ Galiardi or Wayne Simmonds?


2008
Drafted: Michael Del Zotto (20th); Derek Stepan (51st); Evgeni Grachev (75th); Tomas Kundratek (90th)

Would have picked: Michael Del Zotto (20th); Derek Stepan (51st); Gustav Nyqvist (121nd); not sure who else.


2009
Drafted: Chris Kreider (19th); Ethan Werek (47th); Ryan Borque (80th)

Would have picked: Chris Kreider (19th); Tomas Tatar (60th); not sure who else.

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They wouldn't be called the jets and they wouldn't be in winnipeg

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The Sharks traded up to take Steve Bernier. Parise was drafted the pick after.

They also traded up to take Setoguchi. Three picks later, Kopitar was selected.

Imagine a forward roster of:

Marleau/Thornton/Pavelski
Parise/Kopitar/Clowe
Couture
Instead of Milan Michalek, we could have added Getzlaf, Kesler, Perry, or M. Richards to that forwardc core.

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As a Rangers fan this thread even hurts to think about.
Parise...



I'll never get over that.

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Can we just go back and draft Claude Giroux instead of Tlusty I don't care about the rest..

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Ottawa chose Brian Lee over Anze Kopitar, nuff said.

Hindsight is 20/20 then.

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Going back to 2003, and choosing players picked within 10 spots of the original pick...

2003:
Kings took Dustin Brown 13th overall instead of Parise at 17th
Took Brian Boyle 26th overall instead of Corey Perry 28th overall
Took Jeff Tambellini 27th overall instead of Loui Eriksson 33rd overall
Took Konstantin Pushkarev 44th overall instead of Shea Weber 49th overall

2004:
Lauri Tukonen 11th overall instead of Travis Zajac 20th overall
Paul Baier 95th overall instead of Johan Franzen 97th overall

2005:
TJ Fast 60th overall instead of Kris Letang 62nd overall

2006:
Trevor Lewis 17th overall instead of Claude Giroux 22nd overall
Joey Ryan 48th overall instead of Milan Lucic 50th overall

2007
Thomas Hickey 4th overall instead of Logan Couture 9th overall
Linden Rowat 124th overall instead of Jamie Benn 129th overall

2008
Colten Teubert 13th overall instead of Tyler Myers 12th overall*

Parise - Kopitar - Perry
Benn - Richards - Eriksson
Franzen - Giroux - Couture
Clifford - Zajac - Lucic

Weber - Doughty
Letang - Myers
Mitchell - Johnson

Quick
Bernier

*The Kings actually had the 12th overall pick, but agreed to switch picks with Buffalo; the Kings were only willing to make the trade with Buffalo as long as they weren't going to pick Teubert.

Granted, the picks wouldn't have been the same later on, assuming the full roster. But those are all the picks for the last 8 years that the Kings missed out on, within 10 picks after.


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Does picking Eric Fehr at #18 and then Getzlaf going at #19 count?

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The Sharks traded up to take Steve Bernier. Parise was drafted the pick after.

They also traded up to take Setoguchi. Three picks later, Kopitar was selected.

Imagine a forward roster of:

Marleau/Thornton/Pavelski
Parise/Kopitar/Clowe
Couture
hey now, lets not forget that ryan suter was takin one pick after michalek. so we could be running vlasic-suter
murray-boyle to go along with those forward lines

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The one thing that haunts us the most from the Muckler era was the ridiculous decision to take Lee when both Kopitar (choice 1) and M.Staal (2) were still sitting there.

Muckler never was very good at drafting, but this is one that could have either pushed the Sens to a Cup in 07, or set them up for a long, long time.

Too bad (if you're a Sens fan obviously).

I wwould really like either on the sens, but Imagine if ottawa had picked Pronger, Niedermeyer, KAriya or Saku koivu in 93 instead of Daigle, and had a Kariya-Yashin-Alfredsson line in the late 90's.

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Does picking Eric Fehr at #18 and then Getzlaf going at #19 count?
Yes. I came here to post that. Fehr's a good guy, but...

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I know im gonna get flamed at for posting this but, Vancouver took luc bourdon (RIP) instead of Kopitar. I know we never got to see what Bourdon could of been, but kopitar has devoloped into a monster.

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I'll do the Flames, starting in 2003 (within 10 picks)

2003:
Drafted Dion Phaneuf 7th overall... nothing wrong with that (never the mind the trade)
Drafted Tim Ramholt 39th overall, could have taken Shea Weber (49th overall)

2004:
Drafted Kris Chucko 24th overall... could have had Cory Schneider (26th), Mike Green (29th), Dave Bolland (32)
Drafted Dustin Boyd 98th overall... Johan Franzen went at 97

2005:
Drafted Matt Pelech 26th overall... could have had Matt Niskanen (28), James Neal (33)
Drafted Gord Baldwin 69th overall, could have had Jonathan Quick (72)

2006:
Drafted Leland Irving 26th overall, could have moved up to 22 and taken Claude Giroux

2007:
Drafted Mikael Backlund 24th overall... happy with that pick, although David Perron at 26

2008:
Drafted Greg Nemisz 25th overall... Jordan Eberle went at 22, Tyler Ennis went at 26, John Carlson went at 27... ugh

2009:
Drafted Tim Erixon 23rd overall... lame. Could have avoided that whole mess by taking Marcus Johansson (24), Ryan O'Reilly (33). No one could have foreseen the Erixon incident coming though.

2010:
Too soon to tell, but we could have not given our 1st to Phoenix (turned into Brandon Gormley)

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Oh boy.

Parise-Giroux-Callahan
Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Perron-Anisimov-Backes
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust

Staal-Green
McDonagh-Girardi
Carlson-Sauer

Lundqvist
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Ottawa Senators 2002 draft (Yes, I'm just going to do the 2002 draft because that draft was terrible for us).

16th overall: Jakub Klepis - Could've had Daniel Paille (20), Ben Eager (23), Alexander Steen (24) or Cam Ward (25)

47th overall: Alexei Kaigorodov - Could've had Duncan Keith (54) or Matt Stajan (57)

150th overall: Brock Hooton - Could've had James Wisniewski (156)

276th overall: Vitaly Atyushov - Could've had Adam Burish (282)

I skipped a few in between because there really wasn't anyone better

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