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11-03-2011, 03:23 AM
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I guess Donald Trump told Greta Van Susteren on Fox tonight that he is interested in purchasing the Dodgers. I hope he is just joking. Imagine what that guy would do with the land around the Ravine.

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11-03-2011, 05:52 AM
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I guess Donald Trump told Greta Van Susteren on Fox tonight that he is interested in purchasing the Dodgers. I hope he is just joking. Imagine what that guy would do with the land around the Ravine.
There are too many "baseball groups" (Fred Claire, Peter O'Malley, Dennis Gilbert [my personal pick], Garvey/Hershiser) involved and I doubt he'd be pre-approved by baseball to get involved. He's an opportunist as far as media attention goes (nice way of saying he's a media *****)... He's not buying the Dodgers. Neither is Cuban if the team gets bid up which most expect.

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"Peter O'Malley wants to run Dodgers

The former team owner has told Commissioner Bud Selig about his plans. He hopes to lead an investment group to buy the club and 'reconnect the team and the community.'"

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,4549505.story

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11-03-2011, 10:34 AM
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Good Riddance to the worst owner in LA history. A list that includes Donald Sterling, by the way!
No.

The evil Georgia is (still) at the top of this list. If only the NFL had stepped in and voided a few of her "tear-down-the-team-trades" and forced HER to sell the Rams.

I am obviously glad that the Dodgers will be sold, but McCourt did bring about 2 playoff appearances in a row, and even though Manny is still owed a ga-jillion dollars, he brought the most excitement to Dodger Stadium in many years.

Manny also played well enough to beat the Phillies in the POs, but the bullpen couldn't get anyone out.

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There are too many "baseball groups" (Fred Claire, Peter O'Malley, Dennis Gilbert [my personal pick], Garvey/Hershiser) involved and I doubt he'd be pre-approved by baseball to get involved. He's an opportunist as far as media attention goes (nice way of saying he's a media *****)... He's not buying the Dodgers. Neither is Cuban if the team gets bid up which most expect.
Im not worried about Trump getting it. MLB turned down the highest bid for the Rangers and the Cubs I believe.

As great as the O'Malley era was, Peter was the same man that sold this team to Fox. Im also pulling for Dennis Gilbert unless the Garvey/Hersh group shows me that they have boat loads of money to spend.

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11-03-2011, 01:08 PM
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Unless you're worried about relocation, I don't see why it matters if the new owner is local or not. Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan (Manchester City owner) could own the team for all I care. He would make the Steinbrenners look like Frank McCourt.

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11-03-2011, 01:15 PM
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And no to a new location for a new Dodger Stadium. Major renovations would be enough. If the Dodgers were to leave the Chavez Ravine area, it would completely turn into a crime-infested ****hole. I'm a proud Angeleno and I don't want that to happen.

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11-03-2011, 01:59 PM
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As great as the O'Malley era was, Peter was the same man that sold this team to Fox. Im also pulling for Dennis Gilbert unless the Garvey/Hersh group shows me that they have boat loads of money to spend.
Yeah, People tend to forget how bad the team was in the last 6-7 years of the O'Malley era.

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11-03-2011, 02:21 PM
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AEG won't spend Boston/NY type money. You need a fan owner to win in the NBA or MLB these days.
I'm no expert but didn't the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Colorado Rockies, Texas Rangers, Houston Astros, St. Louis Cardinal etc all make the World Series in the past 5 years? I know most of those teams don't sepend nearly the money that the two you mentioned do.

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11-03-2011, 03:29 PM
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And no to a new location for a new Dodger Stadium. Major renovations would be enough. If the Dodgers were to leave the Chavez Ravine area, it would completely turn into a crime-infested ****hole. I'm a proud Angeleno and I don't want that to happen.
The main "problem" with Dodger Stadium is it's too nice to tear down and start over. but that's what is really needed. It's the 3rd oldest stadium in baseball, and it is not fan friendly at all. Right now, Angel Stadium is much more fan friendly.

When I was young, I loved DS, but now after seeing what other teams have for stadiums, DS is sure lacking. Starting with being on their own private little hill - they have no connection with the city at all. There's absolutely no reason to be there if you're not at a ball game.

I don't know what the answer is, and not sure if it's a real problem, but it's not as an enjoyable place as it was when I was younger. Just getting to/from the stadium is a chore. Other (most?) teams have light rail / subway to their stadium - that will likely never happen at Dodger Stadium.

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Baseball just isn't as interesting to me without a salary cap.

I despise the fact that year in, year out, the yanks and the redsox are contenders because they have the deepest pockets.

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The main "problem" with Dodger Stadium is it's too nice to tear down and start over. but that's what is really needed. It's the 3rd oldest stadium in baseball, and it is not fan friendly at all. Right now, Angel Stadium is much more fan friendly.

When I was young, I loved DS, but now after seeing what other teams have for stadiums, DS is sure lacking. Starting with being on their own private little hill - they have no connection with the city at all. There's absolutely no reason to be there if you're not at a ball game.

I don't know what the answer is, and not sure if it's a real problem, but it's not as an enjoyable place as it was when I was younger. Just getting to/from the stadium is a chore. Other (most?) teams have light rail / subway to their stadium - that will likely never happen at Dodger Stadium.


"The Next 50" plan showed a lot of promises. Too bad, Frank showed his true colors and that plan was abandoned. Hopefully the new owner will revive that plan.

You're right about a light rail to the stadium. But this is LA. Public transportation has always sucked no matter where.

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Baseball just isn't as interesting to me without a salary cap.

I despise the fact that year in, year out, the yanks and the redsox are contenders because they have the deepest pockets.
Did you see the post 2 above yours? Spending lots of money is no guarantee you'll even make the postseason. The Red Sox didn't this year. The salary cap has worked for hockey and football. Not sure that it has really worked in basketball but I'm pretty sure they had a "soft" cap but I don't follow it enough to know. I do know that the NBA has only had an 8 seed beat a 1 seed in the playoffs a handful of times. I'm not sure how well a salary cap would actually work in baseball. I suppose it would limit the big spenders but I'm not sure any of the lower payrolled teams would shell out money for big name players which would cost the players money in the end.

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Did you see the post 2 above yours? Spending lots of money is no guarantee you'll even make the postseason. The Red Sox didn't this year. The salary cap has worked for hockey and football. Not sure that it has really worked in basketball but I'm pretty sure they had a "soft" cap but I don't follow it enough to know. I do know that the NBA has only had an 8 seed beat a 1 seed in the playoffs a handful of times. I'm not sure how well a salary cap would actually work in baseball. I suppose it would limit the big spenders but I'm not sure any of the lower payrolled teams would shell out money for big name players which would cost the players money in the end.
Coulda sworn Florida did it twice.

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Hopefully McCourt will take Colletti out the door with him.

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Hopefully McCourt will take Colletti out the door with him.
The new owner will probably show him the door.

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Unless you're worried about relocation, I don't see why it matters if the new owner is local or not. Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan (Manchester City owner) could own the team for all I care. He would make the Steinbrenners look like Frank McCourt.
I wish Roman Abramovich would buy a hockey team. I'd then proceed to suggest Deano that he sells Dustin Penner to Roman for 50 million.

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"The Next 50" plan showed a lot of promises. Too bad, Frank showed his true colors and that plan was abandoned. Hopefully the new owner will revive that plan.

You're right about a light rail to the stadium. But this is LA. Public transportation has always sucked no matter where.
That's because Southern California isn't an 18 square mile island like Manhattan.

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That's because Southern California isn't an 18 square mile island like Manhattan.
Exactly. And I'm not sure what he means by "sucks." It works just fine for me. I live in the SFV and the way I got to Dodgers games last year was: park at the Universal Red Line station (free parking), get off at Union Station, take the Dodgers Stadium Express bus to the gates. 45-60 minutes

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That's because Southern California isn't an 18 square mile island like Manhattan.
Does it take to be like a Manhattan to have a great public transportation? Seattle and Chicago don't think so.

To be fair, though. I never complained about public transportation within the city limits. I'm from the Mid-Wilshire District. I just wish the train system was bigger and better.

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We also know that the old boys' network isn't going to let Cuban own an MLB team.
I think the sports worlds view of Cuban is changing, although I still believe Cuban is a little too opiniative and innovative for Bud and friends.

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Did you see the post 2 above yours? Spending lots of money is no guarantee you'll even make the postseason. The Red Sox didn't this year. The salary cap has worked for hockey and football. Not sure that it has really worked in basketball but I'm pretty sure they had a "soft" cap but I don't follow it enough to know. I do know that the NBA has only had an 8 seed beat a 1 seed in the playoffs a handful of times. I'm not sure how well a salary cap would actually work in baseball. I suppose it would limit the big spenders but I'm not sure any of the lower payrolled teams would shell out money for big name players which would cost the players money in the end.
Yeah, of course there's no guarantee but more often than not, a higher payroll teams will do better than the teams with smaller payroll. I understand there have been teams like the Twins and the Marlins with smaller payroll that have won the WS but more often than not, teams like BOS, Yanks, Cards, Phillies, Angels, Dodgers with higher payroll are the favorites to win the WS.

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I understand there have been teams like the Twins and the Marlins with smaller payroll that have won the WS but more often than not, teams like BOS, Yanks, Cards, Phillies, Angels, Dodgers with higher payroll are the favorites to win the WS.
one of these things is not like the others

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one of these things is not like the others
Yeah, you're right. 1988 was a loooooooonngggg time ago.


Geez, the Angels are even pushing 10 years now...

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Yeah, you're right. 1988 was a loooooooonngggg time ago.


Geez, the Angels are even pushing 10 years now...
At least the Angels are usually expected to be a contender every year. I don't think anyone has picked the Dodgers to win the WS since before 1988. Even 88 was a total surprise.

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