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11-04-2011, 05:05 PM
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Hey guys, Leaf fan in peace. I feel what you guys are going through, can't get any luck on the ice or off, terrible injuries to big players like Carter and others, missing your big money OFD due to a brutal suspension... tough start to the season that is more down to bad luck than lack of talent. The Jackets looked pretty solid last night and carried the play to us more often than not. The score, if not for Scrivens and maybe a bit of a lack of finishing, could have easily been reversed when you consider MacArthur's bad goals. The team seemed to play much different and better in front of York than Mason. Us Leaf fans see that constantly with Gustavsson in net, our team plays much worse with him in there than they do with Reimer.

Missing Huselius, Carter, and just getting Wiz back are tough to swallow, don't get too down, it's a long season and you guys definitely have a lot of talent on this team. Hang in there.
Does the team really play better in front of York or is it just the pressure dialed down laying back in your own zone with a large lead ? Hard to say for certain. Safe to say no one has confidence in Mason, including Mason. When is the last time we faced a teams #1 goalie ? I've begun to enjoy watching all the backups and backups backup goalies. Wondering if they are really that good or if we are just making them look that good. It's a good distraction from clear line of sight goals sailing in from the face off dot.

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11-04-2011, 05:11 PM
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Toronto put no hurt on the Devils, they could have won that game too. Toronto may be in first place, but it is in no way indicative of their play. They're constantly outshot and simply have outscored their opponents. Last night was a poor defensive display from us that has been the standard play this season.
People often read to much into shot totals.

A team that is taking a lot of shots and not scoring often is taking perimeter shots because they aren't setting up quality scoring chances and they may increase those shots in desperation when they are behind.

The Penguins teams of the mid-late 90's were often outshot, but still repeatedly beat their opponents. It wasn't because they had a horrible defense, it was because teams were throwing shots on net hoping something would go it.

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11-04-2011, 05:19 PM
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People often read to much into shot totals.

A team that is taking a lot of shots and not scoring often is taking perimeter shots because they aren't setting up quality scoring chances and they may increase those shots in desperation when they are behind.

The Penguins teams of the mid-late 90's were often outshot, but still repeatedly beat their opponents. It wasn't because they had a horrible defense, it was because teams were throwing shots on net hoping something would go it.
Look at where the shots are being taken from. Last night, there were only about 6-7 in the slot (see the game stats on NHL.com) and some of those were right in the goalies chest.

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11-04-2011, 06:01 PM
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Toronto put no hurt on the Devils, they could have won that game too. Toronto may be in first place, but it is in no way indicative of their play. They're constantly outshot and simply have outscored their opponents. Last night was a poor defensive display from us that has been the standard play this season.
You sound crazy, you realize that, right? The Leafs don't "deserve" to win games in which they "simply have outscored their opponents."

Umm, okay... I mean what exactly is the logical response to reasoning like that? Your team doesn't have to grind out every single goal because Burke's roster can actually FINISH on the scoring chances they create with their collective squad speed - DESPITE your "poor defensive display."

Boohoo, cry me a river.

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You sound crazy, you realize that, right? The Leafs don't "deserve" to win games in which they "simply have outscored their opponents."

Umm, okay... I mean what exactly is the logical response to reasoning like that? Your team doesn't have to grind out every single goal because Burke's roster can actually FINISH on the scoring chances they create with their collective squad speed - DESPITE your "poor defensive display."

Boohoo, cry me a river.
Well, I tried, but sometimes you just can't reason with people.

Anyways, to the others in the fan base, good luck this year, there are still bright spots.

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