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11-05-2011, 10:38 AM
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I think this has been covered on other threads...and while I will agree that Sather more than won the trade with Montreal...I can't call the Gomez signing was the best thing to happen to this team.

Who knows how things would have played out if Gomez was never signed and what the roster would look like now.

I've used this example before regarding those signings but it's like getting drunk, driving your car and wrecking it, not getting a DUI and getting a new car...because you didn't get arrested and got a new car doesn't mean you didn't f up massively.

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11-05-2011, 11:12 AM
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Yeah, what few realize is that if we hadn't signed Gomez and then used him to acquire McDonagh, we would not have been able to trade away Rosie, which means we would have a very hard time signing Brad Richards. I don't see it happening if Rosie is getting paid $5 instead of $1 for McD.

So the signing of Gomez not only got us McDonagh and Prust, but also Richards.
This is a heck of a reach. Gomez was signed a year before Rozsival was re-signed, and you have absolutely no idea of knowing what would have happened with Rozsival or his contract if Gomez had not been signed.

Also, if the only thing that was standing in the way of signing Richards was Rozsival, he would have been traded, McDonagh or not.

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11-05-2011, 11:24 AM
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Why did Montreal trade mcd did they not realize he was good?
I don't know. I remember the fans being upset they traded him, but I also remember there were fans trying to justify it by saying he wanted to stay in college forever and wasn't developing as planned. If we traded one of our best prospects in such a horrible deal, we'd probably be saying similar stuff

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11-05-2011, 11:54 AM
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Yeah, what few realize is that if we hadn't signed Gomez and then used him to acquire McDonagh, we would not have been able to trade away Rosie, which means we would have a very hard time signing Brad Richards. I don't see it happening if Rosie is getting paid $5 instead of $1 for McD.

So the signing of Gomez not only got us McDonagh and Prust, but also Richards.
The Rosie trade only gained us $1.2m on the cap since Wolski makes $3.8m. The Rangers started this year $1.6m under the season Cap and ended the summer $1.242m under the summer cap. Plus, they signed Rupp over the off-season too, which was unnecessary. They could've afforded Richards without moving Rosie.

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Why did Montreal trade mcd did they not realize he was good?
People often forget these things on here in regards to prospects, especially when they start fulfilling their potential. Like others mentioned, he was passed in Montreal's depth chart. But also, there was a sense that McDonagh's development was diffuse. One month he's a two-way D, one month he's an offensive D, one month he's a defensive D, etc, etc. Players like that are hard to project. He was still that way when he got traded here. However, what ended up happening was Wisconsin having a great season his junior year and him gaining a ton of confidence. Couple that with the fact that the Rangers whole organization is excellent at taking talented D and making them very good all-around D (I mean seriously, Staal, Girardi, McDonagh, and Sauer are all basically the same D with different levels of skill, and this is why I have a lot of hope for Erixon)... McD was in a very good situation coming in last year. The time in Hartford really served to give him a ton of focus and his game developed apace.

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Yeah, he got lucky on this one. But we still have part of the cap hit from drury, and having to deal with redden still.
Slats is batting .333 on that one. He'd be near the batting title.

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Couple that with the fact that the Rangers whole organization is excellent at taking talented D and making them very good all-around D (I mean seriously, Staal, Girardi, McDonagh, and Sauer are all basically the same D with different levels of skill, and this is why I have a lot of hope for Erixon)... McD was in a very good situation coming in last year. The time in Hartford really served to give him a ton of focus and his game developed apace.
JJ Daigneault and Jim Schoenfeld do a very good job working with young defensemen.

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Pretext: Rangers needed a #1 center
They sign Gomez to a 7 yr contract worth 51 mil and sign Drury to a 5 yr contract worth 35 mil

After 2 years his play, while still decent for a #2 Center, starts to decline and the Rangers trade him, Busto, Pyatt for McDonagh, Valentenko, and Higgins.

Because of that extra cap space that allowed us to sign Marian Gaborik
Once Higgins didn't work out, they traded him and Kotalik for Jokinen and Prust
McDonagh comes up and acclimates quickly to the NHL game, allowing us to move Rosizval and his 5 mil cap hit

So after this signing what did we get and what did we lose?
Get: A rising defenseman that could be as low as a #4 or high as #2 (Maybe #1)
An elite sniper who can score from anywhere, albeit he had a rough year last year
A grinding forward who shouldve been a throw-in but turned out to be one of the hearts of the team

Loss: A declining center who couldnt even top 40 points last year
A couple of grinders who are replacable (Pyatt, Higgins)
A defenseman whos cap hit was too high

Yeah, Sather may have totally signed Gomez to the wrong contract but at least I think he more then made up for it.

Honestly in hindsight. Sather should have signed ONE of Drury or Gomez and kept Straka - Nylander - Jagr together until JJs contract ran out. Maybe if Marty was done they could have slipped Dubi into ther LW spot.

That team was very good and close. They needed a 2nd line Center, not two 2nd line centers. Signing both Drury and Gomez was a mistake.

But I agree he has made up for it , with some creative moves and making use of his old school connections, way of doing things.

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