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11-05-2011, 06:41 PM
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Just for fun, Enroth value in a trade

I'm pretty sure Enroth won't stay a backup for long so lets make a trade proposal for fun.


For me the perfect fit would be New-Jersey. Brodeur and Hedberg are both 37 or more and they dont really have something in the minors coming soon.

Parise is in the last year of his contract and we all know that a center is what we need.

If New Jersey is agree on a sign up and trade, do you think Enroth +++ for Parise can be possible ???

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I dont think it is really Enroth +++

Enroth's value is sky high because of his age alone. A goalie of his caliber on an ELC is invaluable. I would prefer someone dare I say, even younger than Parise, who is about to cash in.

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11-05-2011, 06:57 PM
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Trade value .... Sean Avery

Or should we really exaggerate and say ... Trade Value .... Iginla

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To Columbus for their 1st!

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Trade value .... Sean Avery
You would not be saying that if Enroth was on another team and we needed a goalie.

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What did Halak get? Eller and a 2nd?

Enroth isn't nearly as established as that, and the "market" is SATURATED with young, largely unproven goalies.


He might fetch a nice prospect or maybe a low 1st/2nd round pick.

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11-05-2011, 07:59 PM
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What did Halak get? Eller and a 2nd?

Enroth isn't nearly as established as that, and the "market" is SATURATED with young, largely unproven goalies.


He might fetch a nice prospect or maybe a low 1st/2nd round pick.

We should really circle back once Johnas has 15-20 more games under his belt.

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Yeah, I'm firmly of the belief that IF you're bent on trading a goalie, you trade miller all day. Enroth isn't that far behind him and Miller will get so much more than Enroth in a trade that it's not funny. Miller might get you a superstar. Enroth might get you a good draft pick.

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11-05-2011, 08:03 PM
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We should really circle back once Johnas has 15-20 more games under his belt.
Yep.

Enroth's value to us is likely far greater than any trade involving him.


And given Miller's contract and the saturated goalie market, I think you can say the same about Miller.

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11-05-2011, 08:16 PM
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I don't understand the point of bringing up a trade that won't happen even if both sides agree. If we trade for Parise he's going to get a buttload of money, that we can't pay him while being under the cap. Personally, I'd rather wait and get Enroth for a great player still on his ELC and a pick.

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I don't understand the point of bringing up a trade that won't happen even if both sides agree. If we trade for Parise he's going to get a buttload of money, that we can't pay him while being under the cap. Personally, I'd rather wait and get Enroth for a great player still on his ELC and a pick.
Sabres aren't getting a GREAT player AND a pick for Enroth.


Not even Darth Regier can do that.........

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Yeah, I'm firmly of the belief that IF you're bent on trading a goalie, you trade miller all day. Enroth isn't that far behind him and Miller will get so much more than Enroth in a trade that it's not funny. Miller might get you a superstar. Enroth might get you a good draft pick.
Miller has 225 wins, a Vezina and an Olympic MVP. Enroth has 19 NHL GAMES. They are MILES apart and in no way is a prospect who has shown some skills equal to a guy who is established as one of the top five goaltenders in the league. Patrick Lalime was unbeaten in his first sixteen starts. Enroth could easily be a bust and you trade him at any time earlier than Miller.

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11-05-2011, 08:24 PM
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Sabres aren't getting a GREAT player AND a pick for Enroth.


Not even Darth Regier can do that.........
You don't think we could get a great young player and a pick? I'm not talking elite talent, just a guy with top 6 potential.

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You don't think we could get a great young player and a pick? I'm not talking elite talent, just a guy with top 6 potential.
Doubtful. Halak got a guy with fringe top 6 value and a 2nd.

Can't figure that Enroth would bring the same as Halak.

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Doubtful. Halak got a guy with fringe top 6 value and a 2nd.

Can't figure that Enroth would bring the same as Halak.
Guess you forgot what Semyon Varlamov returned

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You don't think we could get a great young player and a pick? I'm not talking elite talent, just a guy with top 6 potential.
Given the history of the goalie market, they'd probably get a draft pick for him, and not a very good one either. 'Tenders who are at least established get something in trade. Less than 20 career starts and lacking glamorous minor-league stats? He's not got the sort of pedigree that will warrent much return.

Let him stick around and build his portfolio. If he can continue to win, that will improve his value. But goalies, especially backups, don't garner much in return.

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Guess you forgot what Semyon Varlamov returned
Varlamov had 13 playoff starts (1 series win) PLUS 50-some odd career starts.

Coming into the year, Enroth had 13 career starts period.

Apples to oranges comparison.

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Enroth's current value to the team dwarfs any possible trade return.

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11-06-2011, 01:42 AM
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Another problem with Enroth's trade value is that there are likely three young goalies ahead of him who are hotter commodities...Schneider, Rask, and Bernier.

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Too small of a simple size for any team to give up a lot for him.

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I'm pretty sure Enroth won't stay a backup for long so lets make a trade proposal for fun.
Not to rain on your parade but I don't see anything "fun" about the prospect that, after years of having no reliable 2nd goalie, the Sabres would ever trade Enroth now that they have him.

Speculating on him being dealt is akin to seeking masochistic rituals for enjoyment IMO

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Another problem with Enroth's trade value is that there are likely three young goalies ahead of him who are hotter commodities...Schneider, Rask, and Bernier.
This.

Plus, Braden Holtby is a guy that is in the Enroth category as he played 14 games for the Caps last year with an amazing stat line (1.79 GAA .934 Save%). With Neuvirth & Vokoun on the Caps, he's much more likely to get moved than Enroth.

Another couple of reasons why I think Enroth won't have the value to other teams that he does for the Sabres:

A) At 5'10" (maybe), he doesn't fit the 6'3"+ prototype that teams are in love with today. I have seen quotes that some teams won't draft a goalie if he's under 6' tall.

B) He plays a bit of a quirky style that could scare some scouts/goalie coaches on other teams. There is a reason the Sabres got Hasek for a song back in the day and thinking like that has been slow to change.

Although, it will be interesting to see what happens if a team really likes Enroth and gets desperate.

The Varlamov trade is a great example. A lot of people think that the Avs overpaid for him. But, GMGM maximized the return on the player.

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Not to rain on your parade but I don't see anything "fun" about the prospect that, after years of having no reliable 2nd goalie, the Sabres would ever trade Enroth now that they have him.

Speculating on him being dealt is akin to seeking masochistic rituals for enjoyment IMO
This^^^^ I like having 2 great goalies. Now we need our players to find chemistry.

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11-07-2011, 12:19 PM
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He's not worth more to other teams than his current worth to the Sabres as a dependable backup.

Enroth's 20 game performance portfolio in the NHL is still just a flash in the pan.

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having good backup >>> pick or prospects

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Me too i would rather keep him but will he want to be a backup for a long period ???

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