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11-06-2011, 03:54 AM
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He seems really down in the interview at the end.
Probably got his EHL paycheck. Probably making about $100k vs. $900k in Ottawa.

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There is more of a gap between good players and bad players in the NHL than in the SEL so coaches choose to play the good ones more. Also NHLers are in better shape.
That couldn't be more untrue. If anything SEL:ers are in better shape when it comes to conditioning, while NHL:ers are physically stronger.

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That couldn't be more untrue. If anything SEL:ers are in better shape when it comes to conditioning, while NHL:ers are physically stronger.
Not necessarily. A knock on players from the SEL is usually dealing with the grind of a longer schedule in the NHL. Although game to game it's not hard to imagine that more endurance would be required on the larger ice surface.

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No. The difference between playing in the nhl is much more the level of talent rather than the shape the players is in. I'd wager that there are many guys in the SEL more fit than many of the NHL players today. Just because it's not the nhl doesn't mean that it's a beer league.
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That couldn't be more untrue. If anything SEL:ers are in better shape when it comes to conditioning, while NHL:ers are physically stronger.
lol I should have put a after ''NHLers are in better shape''. But how could you possibly know SEL players have better conditioning? There is a lot of NHLers that average 22+ min over an 82 game schedule + the playoffs. ''But the ice is smaller''

Some top NHLers are completely beast-like, are physical specimens, not just because of their talent level, but also because of their conditioning.

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11-06-2011, 08:52 AM
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Not necessarily. A knock on players from the SEL is usually dealing with the grind of a longer schedule in the NHL. Although game to game it's not hard to imagine that more endurance would be required on the larger ice surface.
It could be argued the NHL grind is more a psychological grind. Flights spanning 3 timezones, 82 games, tighter, harder hitting...and then playoffs ramps it up playing every other night. You don't prepare for it in the gym.

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It could be argued the NHL grind is more a psychological grind. Flights spanning 3 timezones, 82 games, tighter, harder hitting...and then playoffs ramps it up playing every other night. You don't prepare for it in the gym.
Ya you do. Jet lag isn't just psychological, it's physiological. Playing 82 games and being able to do what you describe requires you to be in good shape. It's not just psychological.

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11-06-2011, 09:26 AM
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Ya you do. Jet lag isn't just psychological, it's physiological. Playing 82 games and being able to do what you describe requires you to be in good shape. It's not just psychological.
Never said it was all psychological. You really think lifting weights in the gym and doing sprints helps you get over jet lag more than just getting used to flying across time zones all the time? It's very difficult to prepare for the NHL schedule from overseas. If they could diminish the transition with gym time, they'd do it...and they certainly try.

Although it is a psychological battle they have to go through that they don't in the SEL. The NHL rigors hits both body and mind. MLB players play every day, mostly a psychological grind, football players play weekly...mostly a physical grind. The NHL takes on both.

Is a top tier soccer player more conditioned then an NHL player? Conditioned for what? Long distance running? Yes. For sprinting? Probably not (shouldn't be). As far as physical condition goes I'd say there isn't much difference then in either league. SEL players work out much in the same way NHLers do..but it isn't as important for them to gain that extra 10 pounds of muscle.

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Never said it was all psychological.

Although it is a psychological battle they have to go through that they don't in the SEL. The NHL rigors hits both body and mind. MLB players play every day, mostly a psychological grind, football players play weekly...mostly a physical grind. The NHL takes on both.

Is a top tier soccer player more conditioned then an NHL player? Conditioned for what? Long distance running? Yes. For sprinting? Probably not (shouldn't be). As far as physical condition goes I'd say there isn't much difference then in either league. SEL players work out much in the same way NHLers do..but it isn't as important for them to gain that extra 10 pounds of muscle.
What? See below. Also ''You don't prepare for it in a gym''?

Anyway, agreed with the rest of the post. But I'm sure NHLers do need some kind of endurance training. The season is so long and so condensed that they need endurance training for recovery, and 20 min ice time over 2.5 hours isn't exactly like doing sprints. Just because it's small ice doesn't mean it's all anaerobic.

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11-06-2011, 09:36 AM
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What? See below. Also ''You don't prepare for it in a gym''?

Anyway, agreed with the rest of the post. But I'm sure NHLers do need some kind of endurance training. The season is so long and so condensed that they need endurance training for recovery, and 20 min ice time over 2.5 hours isn't exactly like doing sprints. Just because it's small ice doesn't mean it's all anaerobic.
I said it was more a psychological grind...not that it was 100% a psychological grind. "More a psychological grind" as in, the part of the equation that wasn't being discussed that is probably the bigger issue because it can't be prepared for in the gym.

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