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11-07-2011, 11:33 AM
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Snow asking for 2nd round pick for Nabakov

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Snow's price for Nabokov has been a 2nd rd pick. Makes sense to start him tonight. GMs only have 1 #NHL game to watch at 7 ET.
Another pick...

How about we get a body to help out our team NOW!

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11-07-2011, 11:38 AM
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Is he asking to be traded? Wouldn't they be better off keeping him till at least the trade deadline?

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Another pick...

How about we get a body to help out our team NOW!
If Snow trades Nabokov for a pick he should be fired immediately. You don't trade your best goaltender for a 2nd round pick, especially because you never know when DP is going to have his incredibly bad luck kick in and get another injury.

Also, for the record, I don't believe a damn thing Botta says anymore after that whole Isles going to make another trade that the fans will like incident over the summer.

I will take this with a grain of salt.

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Why trade him now anyways? I thought he wasn't disgruntled in Long Island this season?

Who do the Islanders plan on parading out behind their talented forwards, a brittle DiPietro and Al Montoya?

Unless he is still seriously unhappy there no harm into not opening up to trade until teams get serious goaltender injuries.

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Why trade him now anyways? I thought he wasn't disgruntled in Long Island this season?

Who do the Islanders plan on parading out behind their talented forwards, a brittle DiPietro and Al Montoya?

Unless he is still seriously unhappy there no harm into not opening up to trade until teams get serious goaltender injuries.
He seems fine now.

Montoya has been better then Nabokov thus far anyway..but it's been very very close over who has been better.

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Snow sure loves his 2nd round picks!

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A couple of things:

1) we don't know what Nabby
y was promised behind closed dorrs. Remember that rolly was promised a trade to a contender if the isles fall out of the race.

2. A three goalie system is no bueno. Arguably our best goalie hasn't gotten a start in weeks.

3. I would have traded Nabby in TC. I guess Snow was banking on a couple good starts to raise his value and he got it. Id still be shocked if he managed to get a 2nd rounder for nabby.

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Yep thats the New York Islanders boys and girls... lets keep on rebuilding through the draft. When the attendance is 7,000 in January we can all count down till that 2nd round pick choice

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Another pick...

How about we get a body to help out our team NOW!
THANK YOU. Enough with the damn picks. We need warm bodies to help us NOW!!!!

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We all want a "body" but does anyone think Nabakov alone garners us a top prospect or a top vet?

C'mon...no chance. If you were GM or another team, would you give a prime asset up for a rental goalie?

I'll take the second round pick laughing all the way to the draft thank you very much. Snow has done extremely well at the draft, and could always use that second round pick later on to obtain a "body" as part of a package. Don't knock it.... Josh Bailey or Blake Comeau (as examples) packaged with a 2nd rounder is a heck of a lot more attractive, and could garner something of value in return.

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Ideally Id liked a good defenseman but I think there is one small thing being left out of the equation here: Anyone who wants a 36 year old goaltender is likely looking for a deep playoff run this year. Thats where it gets tricky for some teams. What contending team or wanna be contender is going to give up an important piece for another player who, its no secret, wants out and has wanted out from the day he got here. Leverage is not to our advantage here. Ideally, yeah, Id like to trade Nabokov for a solid first pairing or at the very least top 4 defenseman but find me a contending team with a surplus of good defensemen willing to deal one.

Any suggestions? The only contender I really see with a surplus of good dmen is Philly and after the investment they made in Bryzgalov are they really looking for a goalie?. You could probably lump Vancouver and Boston in there too but neither really needs a goalie.

So the other question I must pose is where's the market for goalies and of those teams who has a defenseman for us?

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We all want a "body" but does anyone think Nabakov alone garners us a top prospect or a top vet?

C'mon...no chance. If you were GM or another team, would you give a prime asset up for a rental goalie?

I'll take the second round pick laughing all the way to the draft thank you very much. Snow has done extremely well at the draft, and could always use that second round pick later on to obtain a "body" as part of a package. Don't knock it.... Josh Bailey or Blake Comeau (as examples) packaged with a 2nd rounder is a heck of a lot more attractive, and could garner something of value in return.
Exactly. That extra second rounder becomes very useful as you get nearer to the trade deadline and teams are more willing to dump salary for a pick. You see good players get dealt for a mid round pick all the time at that time of year.

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1) Has Nabokov been such a clear cut No. 1 that ANY GM in this league would give up something valuable for him? A 2nd rounder is actually a HIGH asking price for this goalie.

2) Nowhere Nabokov goes will he play with the defense he saw in San Jose. Look at Detroit, imagine if he played behind those guys right now?

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Snow sure loves his 2nd round picks!
It's almost as though he has a fetish with 2nd round picks. In this deep draft it might be especially valuable, so if he can get it, then I wouldn't be too upset. Then again, I'm pretty much against trading Nabokov or Montoya to begin with. But if they're gonna do it, a 2nd round pick in a deep draft is acceptable. I guess.

I'm over stockpiling picks now. I'd much rather get a prospect, or even expand the trade to include some of our pieces & bring in an NHLer, or a better prospect.


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so who gave this tidbit to c.botts ?

stan the fisherman ?

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If we could get a 2nd round pick, its a VERY good thing. Not only is that a good return, but I think no matter what happens to this team it'll be useful. If we are in the playoff hunt near the deadline, that 2nd round pick will get us a good NHL player from a selling team while that same team probably wouldn't be interested in an aging goalie. Along with that, if we struggle and hold on to the pick, another 2nd in this great draft will be nice....I doubt we will get a 2nd rounder, but no one should be against it if Snow can pull it off.

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Snow sure loves his 2nd round picks!
what's not to love. They are cheaper than a 1st rounder and you can always sell the "it's a deep draft so a second is more like a first" story.


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We all want a "body" but does anyone think Nabakov alone garners us a top prospect or a top vet?

C'mon...no chance. If you were GM or another team, would you give a prime asset up for a rental goalie?

I'll take the second round pick laughing all the way to the draft thank you very much. Snow has done extremely well at the draft, and could always use that second round pick later on to obtain a "body" as part of a package. Don't knock it.... Josh Bailey or Blake Comeau (as examples) packaged with a 2nd rounder is a heck of a lot more attractive, and could garner something of value in return.
Bingo, Bailey +/ Comeau with that pick could easily help get that "body" we want. Anyone who thinks Nabakov is worth a top-6 F/top-4 D by himself is crazy.

Heck even if we keep that pick this draft is crazy deep.

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TBH, I'd rather have a 2nd rounder instead of another Ty Wishart.

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Its pretty obvious that Snow just wants the flexibility of an offer sheet.

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Another pick...

How about we get a body to help out our team NOW!
For Nabokov? Keep dreaming.

The best we could get for him would be a bottom pairing defenseman/bottom 6 forward. Things we don't need.

I would be thrilled if they could move Nabokov for a 2nd. As much as I think he is better than DP, we are stuck with DP. And I would rather start Montoya than Nabokov. Plus, the three goalie thing really doesn't work. Montoya hasn't played in weeks.

So, if the Isles have a chance to get a decent asset for Nabokov, I would do it in a heartbeat.

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Unless it's right up against the deadline and the Isles are basically out of the playoff race they better be keeping him for the year. I have no trust in DP and I'm gaining trust in Montoya(if he ever sees the ice again?) but Nabokov is needed on this team.

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Only team that needs a goalie right now is Columbus and maybe leafs with injured reimer.
2nd round is too rich though.

I would trade snow to any team for 7th and bag pucks

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I think I know what's wrong!!@!

Now bear with me, but GARTH SNOW CANNOT READ!!!

He makes a trade and the agents and coaches and GM's count lines and, honestly, II is easier than I (Snow doesn't want himself traded) for him and 9th rounders get downright confusing, so....

Does he sign his name "X" still?

I think there's something to this.


But seriously, we give away our best goalie (I stand by Monty but DP doesn't like Monty so no more Montoya) and throw in the towel in November because Wang wants Ricky to play often more than he wants the Isles to play in May - dispute this all you want but it's true - so we're mailing it in if we treade Nabby for anything less than much needed help on D or an upgrade on offense (Rolston plus Nabby for a top 6 winger with size?(yes, Rolston is expensive but Nabby is a top goalie equipped for a playoff seeding)).

If this trade goes down, Snow should be fired and a GM who plans on winning before Armageddon replaces him.

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Only team that needs a goalie right now is Columbus and maybe leafs with injured reimer.
2nd round is too rich though.

I would trade snow to any team for 7th and bag pucks

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