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11-07-2011, 12:34 PM
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Filatov recalled/sent down thread (Called Up, Nov 26)

It'll happen a lot this season

Sent back down today to Bingo

http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.ht...cmpid=rss-News

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11-07-2011, 12:44 PM
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Horrible news

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Well, let's see how much determination this kid's got.

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11-07-2011, 12:48 PM
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Why is it horrible news?

What ever happened to the notion of letting a kid develop and produce on the farm consistently before calling them up? It frustrates the heck out of me that everyone feels that someone deserves a place on the team for whatever reason...he's either good enough to produce consistently or he's not. If he's not you send him down and let him get to line minutes on the farm.

It's a pretty simple concept.

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Maybe because Ottawa doesn't play until Wed? They might call him up for wed game.

Or not. He is not taking advantage of his opportunity.

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11-07-2011, 01:01 PM
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I hope he comes back up for Wednesday's game.

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Why is it horrible news?

What ever happened to the notion of letting a kid develop and produce on the farm consistently before calling them up? It frustrates the heck out of me that everyone feels that someone deserves a place on the team for whatever reason...he's either good enough to produce consistently or he's not. If he's not you send him down and let him get to line minutes on the farm.

It's a pretty simple concept.
But he talks to fans on the internet! If that isn't a good reason to earn a spot on the roster, then I dont know what is.

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11-07-2011, 01:09 PM
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The B-Sens play Wednesday as well as Ottawa, so he's down there for at least one game I'd imagine...

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Horrible news
This is the kind of reaction I was hoping not to see, but fully expecting to find.



He's the only forward on a 2-way contract who is also waiver-exempt. We are currently carrying way too many forwards at the NHL level. Until we either make a trade or decide we hate someone enough to outright waive them and risk losing them for nothing, this is going to be a regular occurrence this year for Filatov.

That's the long and the short of it. It's a business decision.


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Besides, playing 20 minutes a night in the AHL is a MUCH better learning tool for Filatov than 7 minutes a night in the NHL. This is good for him, long term.

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11-07-2011, 01:16 PM
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But he talks to fans on the internet! If that isn't a good reason to earn a spot on the roster, then I dont know what is.
True. I forgot.

SCREW BM!! Filatov should be playing on Spezza's wing (even though their styles don't mesh at all).

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Why is it horrible news?

What ever happened to the notion of letting a kid develop and produce on the farm consistently before calling them up? It frustrates the heck out of me that everyone feels that someone deserves a place on the team for whatever reason...he's either good enough to produce consistently or he's not. If he's not you send him down and let him get to line minutes on the farm.

It's a pretty simple concept.
I'm with you. Its baffling that people don't get this. AHL = Good for young players.

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11-07-2011, 01:25 PM
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For the best. He needs to play, and that wasn't happening here.

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11-07-2011, 01:38 PM
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Surprised by how reasonable most of the responses are. Hope he can develop well in Binghamton and then challenge for a spot when he's ready.

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Paul MacLean made some comments on the move in todays presser.

link to it at http://twitter.com/#!/nhl_sens

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He needs confidence, when he gets confidence he shows his qualities... all is psychology... when you do not have confidence you can be the second Gretzky... you never show it... he has great hockey sense and he has great hockey vision... but until he will has confidence he will not show it because he does not believes to do some things and play for certain not creative (the reason why Zibanejad was send to SEL). And if he wants confidence he must play but he will not play in Sens so he must play in Bingo... and many... I hope any stupid hit will not come because IMo it influenced his achievments too (maybe).

Kurt Kleinendorst is a great developing coach and he will help him if he will play he gets it and than you will see how he is a player. I am absolutely sure he will help him, not hope, sure. I feel it.

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Paul MacLean made some comments on the move in todays presser.

link to it at http://twitter.com/#!/nhl_sens

My old ass is in class today, I can't play audio.

Anyone have a summary?

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This is the kind of reaction I was hoping not to see, but fully expecting to find.



He's the only forward on a 2-way contract who is also waiver-exempt. We are currently carrying way too many forwards at the NHL level. Until we either make a trade or decide we hate someone enough to outright waive them and risk losing them for nothing, this is going to be a regular occurrence this year for Filatov.

That's the long and the short of it. It's a business decision.


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Besides, playing 20 minutes a night in the AHL is a MUCH better learning tool for Filatov than 7 minutes a night in the NHL. This is good for him, long term.
Spot On.

So far he's been given lots of rope and has yet to tie a knot. He's got the upside and I hope he's as patient as the coaches in getting it developped. This is his year to make the team. If he can not, he'll be swallowed with the depth coming next year.

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My old ass is in class today, I can't play audio.

Anyone have a summary?
Filatov has been "tight and tentative" during his stints in Ottawa. Needs to gain confidence. MacLean says Filatov has been a dangerous and creative player down in Binghamton and needs to be that player in the NHL. Says it might take a few more trips before he's that kind of player.

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Filatov has been "tight and tentative" during his stints in Ottawa. Needs to gain confidence. MacLean says Filatov has been a dangerous and creative player down in Binghamton and needs to be that player in the NHL. Says it might take a few more trips before he's that kind of player.
Pretty spot on assessment.

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11-07-2011, 02:23 PM
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Pretty spot on assessment.
Yes, this makes sense from what we've seen.

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But he talks to fans on the internet! If that isn't a good reason to earn a spot on the roster, then I dont know what is.
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But he talks to fans on the internet! If that isn't a good reason to earn a spot on the roster, then I dont know what is.


Please stop Pete... lol still laughing


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He's the only forward on a 2-way contract who is also waiver-exempt. We are currently carrying way too many forwards at the NHL level. Until we either make a trade or decide we hate someone enough to outright waive them and risk losing them for nothing, this is going to be a regular occurrence this year for Filatov.

That's the long and the short of it. It's a business decision.


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Besides, playing 20 minutes a night in the AHL is a MUCH better learning tool for Filatov than 7 minutes a night in the NHL. This is good for him, long term.
Da Costa isn't?

I also don't mind playing Filatov in the AHL, particulary because he'll play a lot more. I just hope he keeps his morale.

I'm hoping they make a top-6 line like this :

Filatov-Hoffman-Petersson

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Even with limited ice time, he was barely noticable out there...very tentative to engage in battles...again as people have said he's not doing himself any favours staying with the big club....he needs to get his game in order and the AHL will help him do this.

He's got to try 100% or he'll be let go at years end as a RFA.

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Da Costa isn't?
Ah, you are right. I completely forgot DaCosta's ELC.
Still though, DaC's a center, and we need centers, Regin's hurt, blah blah, insert rebuilding comment here, etc...


Hopefully Filatov tears it up in the AHL again... 4 goals in 7 games and from what I've heard made a good impression.

I honestly could care less about Filatov playing in Ottawa in November... I'm much more concerned with how he plays in Ottawa in late February, and if time in the AHL is going to make him a better NHLer by then, I'm all for it.

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He's got to try 100% or he'll be let go at years end as a RFA.
All things considered, I can't see us just letting him walk as a restricted free agent, without a qualifying offer.

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