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11-07-2011, 08:24 PM
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The Habs need a center and a gritty defenseman. If Gauthier dosen't act now he is gone

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11-08-2011, 01:28 AM
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I was honestly surprised to see Fraser make the Devils' roster this year. I actually didn't even expect him to be qualified in the summer to begin with. I've never been even close to impressed by him. He'll scrap and play some minimum minutes, but for the most part he isn't anything more than a 7th guy.

Pelly is somewhat useful I think; he's not too bad for the 4th line. I doubt there will be any takers for either of them, but classy of the Devils to try to help the two play elsewhere.
Fraser is our 7th D-man. He's played 2 or 3 games this season, and actually hasn't played as bad as we're accustomed. We'd rather scratch him regularly than a real prospect since we're not too concerned with hindering Fraser's development as a crap D-man. He's capable of playing 10-15 minutes a night, so he's pretty much what we're looking for in a 7th guy.

He's very expendable too since if he's claimed, we can just slot Harrold or Leach into the 7th man role. It would probably be great if someone claimed him so we could free up a contract if we want to buy at the deadline for some picks. I think we're one off the maximum.

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11-08-2011, 09:10 AM
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I think Pelley would be useful to a team as a 4th line grinder, best of luck to both guys in finding new teams.

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11-08-2011, 09:37 AM
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I always liked Mark Fraser - seems like a very tough guy to play against.

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per Katie Strang, both Pelley and Fraser clear waivers again.

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per Katie Strang, both Pelley and Fraser clear waivers again.
damn you're quick

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11-08-2011, 12:14 PM
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per Bob McKenzie, Tampa Bay puts Mattias Ritola on $125 waivers today which means the Lightning are saying bye-bye to Ritola.

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per Bob McKenzie, Tampa Bay puts Mattias Ritola on $125 waivers today which means the Lightning are saying bye-bye to Ritola.
One-Hundred and twenty five dollars?

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One-Hundred and twenty five dollars?
Another team would owe the Lightning $125 if they claim him. It's some bizarre NHL thingy.

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How does that buyout work?

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Another team would owe the Lightning $125 if they claim him. It's some bizarre NHL thingy.
Man, even I could afford that

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My roller hockey team would like to place a claim on him, since we can afford it.

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11-08-2011, 12:42 PM
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Surprised Montreal never put gomez on the $125 waivers haha

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Surprised Montreal never put gomez on the $125 waivers haha
I am not certain, but I am pretty sure both parties have to agree to it and it nullifies the contract? I think it is for players AND organizations that wish to part ways. I doubt Gomez wants out of that contract.

Also, if I am not mistaken it is like 50K that must be paid when you claim a player of normal waivers right?

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Man, even I could afford that
I was joking the other day when I had $150 in my wallet that I was going to use it to buy Adam Comrie (who was on the same waivers last Friday).

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How does that buyout work?
I don't know the exact details but it's basically when a player refuses to report or wants out because he's got a better offer or is just fed up with playing hockey. It's basically a mutual termination of the contract.

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Surprised Montreal never put gomez on the $125 waivers haha
It's not quite that easy. lol. The player has to agree to it as well or break his contract in some way.

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I don't know the exact details but it's basically when a player refuses to report or wants out because he's got a better offer or is just fed up with playing hockey. It's basically a mutual termination of the contract.
Isn't this one way to release a player who wants to go finish his playing career in Europe?

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Gomez probably wouldn't have cleared re-entry waivers anyway.

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I am not certain, but I am pretty sure both parties have to agree to it and it nullifies the contract? I think it is for players AND organizations that wish to part ways. I doubt Gomez wants out of that contract.

Also, if I am not mistaken it is like 50K that must be paid when you claim a player of normal waivers right?
The price a team has to pay for a successful normal waiver claim is dependent on their experience and position. It ranges from a high of $90k for a goaltender with 2 or less years played under NHL contract to a low of $3,375 for a player with 9+ years under contract. It doesn't matter whether the player was actually in the NHL or AHL, just that they had an NHL contract. Normal waiver prices for skaters start at a high of $67.5k for players with 2 of less years under NHL contact.

Unconditional waivers are a special class of waiver where a team is seeking an unconditional release or buyout. The price for those is $125.


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applicable to Players being Waived on Regular and Re-EntryWaivers shall be in US
dollars, and are as follows:

For each forward and defenseman who has not in the aggregate completed
more than the following years under one or more SPCs:
2 Years - $67,500
3 Years - $56,250
4 Years - $41,250
5 Years - $26,250

For each goaltender who has not in the aggregate completed more than the
following years under one or more SPCs:
2 Years - $90,000
3 Years - $75,000
4 Years - $67,500
5 Years - $63,750

For each forward, defenseman and goaltender who has not in the
aggregate completed more than the following years under one or more SPCs:
6 Years - $15,000
7 Years - $13,125
8 Years - $11,250
9 Years - $7,500

In the case of any Player who has completed more than nine (9) years
under one or more SPCs - $3,375.

(b) The Waiver price of a Player for whom an unconditional release is sought
via Unconditional Waivers shall be $125.00 US dollars.

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Who had the brain capacity to create all of these waiver rules?

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Who had the brain capacity to create all of these waiver rules?
Lawyers.

Very rich lawyers.

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It's not quite that easy. lol. The player has to agree to it as well or break his contract in some way.
Too bad for the Habs then

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Why do you use FLO for Florida instead of FLA? I'm always thinking FLO from Progressive has made a move haha

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Interesting move with Ritola.

$125 waivers are indeed used for a mutual termination of a contract. The Wild did this with Petr Sykora a few years ago, which is one of the most recent instances I can remember. Even more recently during the summer just a few months ago, the Caps parted with both Anton Gustafsson and Dmitri Kugryshev using $125 waivers to release them.

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Why do you use FLO for Florida instead of FLA? I'm always thinking FLO from Progressive has made a move haha
It just makes the most sense to me since over half of the teams just use the first three letters

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