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11-08-2011, 06:00 PM
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This trade is horrible! It will set the franchise back for years

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Could have had Gustav Nyquist.

Just sayin....
Nyquist is on Detroit, not Washington.

Just sayin....


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Could have had Gustav Nyquist.

Just sayin....
We could've had Getzlaf. Nyquist is the least of my worries.

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Nyquist is on Detroit, not Washington.

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Hes saying we could've drafted him.

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Hes saying we could've drafted him.
Oh well we could've had Getzlaf, Parise, or Richards...

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Oh well we could've had Getzlaf, Parise, or Richards...
See post above

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11-08-2011, 06:31 PM
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Who knows if Bouchard can revive his career. I doubt it, but he did score 125 points in juniors as an 18 year old. Worst case, we lost a defenseman whose max potential is as a #6 for a minor league. This won't matter to the franchise.

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11-08-2011, 06:33 PM
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From The Whale thread... Just saying!

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Whale now have 10 defenders on their roster and only 12 fwds.
4 Stu Bickel
5 Blake Parlett
6 Wade Redden
8 Jyri Niemi
9 Brendan Bell
25 Pavel Valentenko
27 Jared Nightingale
44 Tim Erixon
77 Lee Baldwin
84 Tomas Kundratek

Something is gonna have to give... Deveaux will probably be sent down again but 10 defensemen??!!!??? If the rangers sign Strålman or McCabe - that would probably mean Woywitka gets sent down too... Will be interesting to see how this pans out. Trade Redden?
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Zuccarello sets up JAM for a goal in the 1st in matiné contest at Bridgeport. 1-1 in the 1st... 10 defensemen in Hartford now. Grant, Niemi, Baldwin and Kundratek (3D) sitting out. Lines: Audy-Marchessault-Mitchell-Zuccarello, Hagelin-Newbury-Thuresson, McKelvie-Tessier-Bourque and Owens-Tanski are the 11 fwds. Redden-Nightingale, Erizon-Bickel, Valentenko-Bell and Parlett are the 7 D. Talbot in net. Expect a trade for a FWD (sending a d away) soon imo...

1-1 and shots 11-11 after one period on 11/02/11...

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11-08-2011, 06:34 PM
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"Bouchard is a skilled guy that can play all positions and just needed a change of scenery," said Jeff Gorton, the Rangers assistant general manager, following the trade. "We like his sense and playmaking ability."
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11-08-2011, 06:45 PM
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Bouchard isn't going to be a NHL player so I'm guessing Kundratek is crap to?

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11-08-2011, 06:47 PM
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Not happy about this. It may be a minor move but I liked Kundratek and had hopes of him reaching the NHL at some point. Caps win this one. Bouchard is already 22-23.

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11-08-2011, 06:48 PM
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Bouchard on trade: "I think it is going to be a fresh start. I'm excited to be joining the Rangers and the young team in Connecticut. ..."
https://twitter.com/#!/timleone/stat...51279436644353

Kundratek is another 2008 draft pick no longer part of the Rangers organization.Grachev was traded to St.Louis. Weise was lost on waivers to Vancouver. Doyle and Gaulton were never offered contracts.

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Here's a bit on him. Prospect grade- 6.0D

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Not happy about this. It may be a minor move but I liked Kundratek and had hopes of him reaching the NHL at some point. Caps win this one. Bouchard is already 22-23.
With who though? Not the Rangers.

It's a lateral move in my opinion. Neither of these guys will make significant impacts with either team and neither weren't going to anyway.

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This years Kolarik? Possibly? I hope.

Man I miss Kolarik

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With who though? Not the Rangers.

It's a lateral move in my opinion. Neither of these guys will make significant impacts with either team and neither weren't going to anyway.
And why not with the Rangers? Look at the team this season. All it takes is one injury and spots open up.

People said the same thing about Mike Sauer last year.

He is a good skater who is physical and has a bomb from the point. Underrated player in the Ranger organization. Good job by the Caps buying low on Kundratek.

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Knew something had to be on the way with the ****-ton of dmen this team had between the NHL and AHL. Sucks to see TK go because I know a lot of posters were high on him but the dude was a healthy scratch for a while.

Change of scenery.

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My guess is that The Rangers plan on calling up a forward soon, and Bouchard replaces him in hartford.
That would be my guess too, the only question will it be another grinder or someone (cough, cough) with more skill?

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And why not with the Rangers? Look at the team this season. All it takes is one injury and spots open up.

People said the same thing about Mike Sauer last year.

He is a good skater who is physical and has a bomb from the point. Underrated player in the Ranger organization. Good job by the Caps buying low on Kundratek.
Because Sauer played himself to the top of the Rangers depth chart and onto the team and Kundratek can barely play himself onto the Whale?

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From The Whale thread... Just saying!
Congratulations on predicting one of the most glaring presumptions given the surplus of defensemen we had in the AHL.

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And why not with the Rangers? Look at the team this season. All it takes is one injury and spots open up.

People said the same thing about Mike Sauer last year.

He is a good skater who is physical and has a bomb from the point. Underrated player in the Ranger organization. Good job by the Caps buying low on Kundratek.
Think about it. Staal was out and he didn't even come to Europe. I think that says all it needs to about how far down he was on the Rangers depth chart. They went out and picked up Woywitka, called up Bell and signed Stralman. Picking up Erixon this summer pretty much sealed his fate here. He wasn't going to get his chance here, thats just the truth.

And Sauer was hampered by injuries for most of his career before last year.

He might be a good player someday, but it wasn't going to be with the Rangers.

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Because Sauer played himself to the top of the Rangers depth chart and onto the team and Kundratek can barely play himself onto the Whale?
Sauer was not at the top of the Whale's depth chart pretty much ever on a regular basis. He was a solid, unspectacular AHL player. He also had a few major injuries while down there.

For all intents and purposes, they are very similar players in the fact that they are defensive defenseman who will drop the gloves if need be. Except Kundratek runs around a little bit at times whereas Sauer is positionally sound, and Kundratek throws some bone-jarring hits.

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And why not with the Rangers? Look at the team this season. All it takes is one injury and spots open up.

People said the same thing about Mike Sauer last year.

He is a good skater who is physical and has a bomb from the point. Underrated player in the Ranger organization. Good job by the Caps buying low on Kundratek.
Yoy may not have given up on Kundratek, but it was pretty clear that the Ranger organization gave up on him. It wouldn't have taken one injury--there would have had to be about five injuries before they were going to take a look at him.

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Yoy may not have given up on Kundratek, but it was pretty clear that the Ranger organization gave up on him. It wouldn't have taken one injury--there would have had to be about five injuries before they were going to take a look at him.

I am in no way upset he was traded. I am upset with the return.

Kundratek, IMO, has an NHL future.

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I am in no way upset he was traded. I am upset with the return.

Kundratek, IMO, has an NHL future.
These guys just don't return as much as we'd like to think.

Look at the Bobby Sangs and Grachev trades.

On top of that, Caps are a contending team who have their D-pairs pretty much figured out. I doubt he gets much of a chance, if at all, with them.

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