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11-10-2011, 10:59 PM
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if we had him to start the season we would e 1st in the league
TBH some people are underrating the effect of a good fourth line center. It gave options for better matchups, more depth, some stability and a quality energy guy that can do all. I'm not saying that he is the cause of all our win, but he make our team better and was paid a cheap prize and he is still RFA.

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Palushaj to me at least played the best game i seen yet form him
I'm so glad someone noticed him. He looked really good. If he quickens his decision-making(which should come considering he has little nhl experience) he could be a solid top 9 guy, which is pretty much what we traded for him.

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11-10-2011, 11:00 PM
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On a somewhat related note, with Toronto's win tonight, they have 21 points on the season, 7 more than Montreal. I know the blowout by Boston skews things a little bit, but they have a -4 goal differential on the season compared to the Habs' -3. I'm not sure the standings are really telling the whole story of these two teams.

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11-10-2011, 11:02 PM
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TBH some people are underrating the effect of a good fourth line center. It gave options for better matchups, more depth, some stability and a quality energy guy that can do all. I'm not saying that he is the cause of all our win, but he make our team better and was paid a cheap prize and he is still RFA.
ya looking at the past we hae a good history of 4th line centers and they have played pretty key roles for the team

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On a somewhat related note, with Toronto's win tonight, they have 21 points on the season, 7 more than Montreal. I know the blowout by Boston skews things a little bit, but they have a -4 goal differential on the season compared to the Habs' -3. I'm not sure the standings are really telling the whole story of these two teams.
The season has been weird so far. The whole league is too ****ing close.

Toronto has been the anti-habs, get outplayed every game, get outshot every game, yet have the highest shooting %

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Eller had a good game despite not getting on the score sheet. He was carrying a pretty poor line on even strength and set up the winning goal despite not making the pass to Gorges.
I dont get why he wasnt awarded an assist on Gorges goal. Yeah the defenseman pinched it but I've seen a lot of similar cases where they'd award an assist

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11-10-2011, 11:03 PM
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The season has been weird so far. The whole league is too ****ing close.
It's why I love the NHL, though it's killing my fantasy team.

The east especially has been insane, every team seems to be on the same level.

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11-10-2011, 11:04 PM
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David Desharnais needs to shoot more. I said it earlier this year and it's only becoming worse. Zero shots in his last 4 games despite playing close to 14, 16, 18 and 20min. I know the kid is a passer, but man, a little more shooting wouldn't hurt.

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I'm so glad someone noticed him. He looked really good. If he quickens his decision-making(which should come considering he has little nhl experience) he could be a solid top 9 guy, which is pretty much what we traded for him.
I don't know he looked like he got rocked a couple times. He seems so easy to push off the puck to me. But he did look more involved than he has in the past.

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It's why I love the NHL, though it's killing my fantasy team.

The east especially has been insane, every team seems to be on the same level.
There is only 10 points seperating 1st from last in the east.

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I don't know he looked like he got rocked a couple times. He seems so easy to push off the puck to me. But he did look more involved than he has in the past.
He got rocked twice on one shift. He had a couple of scoring chances and some really nice 3 on 2 rushes, both passes cross the slot got blocked.

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He got rocked twice on one shift. He had a couple of scoring chances and some really nice 3 on 2 rushes, both passes cross the slot got blocked.
He looked ok I guess. He also had that one time where he circled the net with the puck only to give it away tape to tape to the Coyotes.

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11-10-2011, 11:11 PM
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David Desharnais needs to shoot more. I said it earlier this year and it's only becoming worse. Zero shots in his last 4 games despite playing close to 14, 16, 18 and 20min. I know the kid is a passer, but man, a little more shooting wouldn't hurt.
Not to mention Pacioretty and Cole were playing like gang-busters tonight on his line. He was very much the third wheel.

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11-10-2011, 11:13 PM
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Not to mention Pacioretty and Cole were playing like gang-busters tonight on his line. He was very much the third wheel.
He was slowing these two down, it was painful to watch... If only JM could wake up from his coma and put Eller between them...

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David Desharnais needs to shoot more. I said it earlier this year and it's only becoming worse. Zero shots in his last 4 games despite playing close to 14, 16, 18 and 20min. I know the kid is a passer, but man, a little more shooting wouldn't hurt.
The problem to me is he often seems scared of bigger guys TBH. I see him avoiding traffic a lot of the times. He needs to learn a lesson from Gionta and be more fearless. He has the tools but needs to be more aggressive and not be afraid.

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He was slowing these two down, it was painful to watch... If only JM could wake up from his coma and put Eller between them...
Unfortunately if they moved Eller between them that would probably make the 3rd line lambs for the slaughter. They needed his awesomeness to prop up Darche and Palushaj.

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11-10-2011, 11:20 PM
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Unfortunately if they moved Eller between them that would probably make the 3rd line lambs for the slaughter. They needed his awesomeness to prop up Darche and Palushaj.
Someone will scream bloody murder when I write it, but the obvious solution to that problem will be Gomez.

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David Desharnais needs to shoot more. I said it earlier this year and it's only becoming worse. Zero shots in his last 4 games despite playing close to 14, 16, 18 and 20min. I know the kid is a passer, but man, a little more shooting wouldn't hurt.
Don't get me wrong, I love his heart, but he is weak and makes some poor decisions on the ice both offensively and defensively. I've had enough of him to be honest. Unfortunately there is no one better to replace him.

How about Nokelainen forgetting he was a winger on that Phoenix goal? I've never seen a defenceman so open on the point in my life.

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The problem to me is he often seems scared of bigger guys TBH. I see him avoiding traffic a lot of the times. He needs to learn a lesson from Gionta and be more fearless. He has the tools but needs to be more aggressive and not be afraid.
I disagree. I see DD battle hard in corners, and not scared to go for the puck. Obviously if a big guy is speeding right next to him, he will try to avoid his check, but that's even done by Plekanec. DD has been around bigger guys all his career, he wouldn't be in the NHL if he hadn't developed a way around them.
He will lose some battles due to his size, but overall he's pretty decent at them.

I don't think he's ready for top opposition, and he will need to shoot more if he wants to become more of an offensive threat.

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11-10-2011, 11:27 PM
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Yep, he's playing quite well lately. Also, now that they're getting used to each other, I really like the Gorges-Subban pairing. I really hope they keep them together even once Markov is back. Just not totally sure who Markov's RH partner will be to begin with. Maybe Weber?
For those curious here are all the defense's total 5 on 5 plus minus for the season as best I'm able to determine. One of the many stupid things about plus minus is how they count both empty net and short handed goals, which really distorts any meaning it had originally.

Gorges: +7
Subban: +3
Weber: +1
Spacek: +1
Diaz: 0
Emelin: -2
Gill: -5

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I think I'd rather try 81 in between them.
Yep.

Why that hasn't happened blows my mind, the kid has size and puck control to feed those two guys.

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Yep.

Why that hasn't happened blows my mind, the kid has size and puck control to feed those two guys.
Many things JM does and doesn't do blow my mind...

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For those curious here are all the defense's total 5 on 5 plus minus for the season as best I'm able to determine. One of the many stupid things about plus minus is how they count both empty net and short handed goals, which really distorts any meaning it had originally.

Gorges: +7
Subban: +3
Weber: +1
Spacek: +1
Diaz: 0
Emelin: -2
Gill: -5
so why does Gill keep playing?
makes no ****ing sense.
turn him into a pk specialist.
stop giving him 19-20 mins a night

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NSH has been tough for us in the past

last win against them as in Jan 09

when carbo was coach,komi was thought as the next phneauf, kovelav was our to go guy and captain while koviu was gone


wow things have changed

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so why does Gill keep playing?
makes no ****ing sense.
turn him into a pk specialist.
stop giving him 19-20 mins a night
While he hasn't been great, he spent a lot of time completely miscast as the veteran leader of a second pairing that saw a lot of defensive zone assignments. He was the sacrificial lamb so both the 1st and 3rd pairings would be effective. Anyone not named Subban or Gorges in the current lineup probably would have sucked under those circumstances (maybe Spacek would do alright).

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