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11-12-2011, 02:32 PM
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7 is too many to choose from. 5 would be better.

Price
Subban
Plekanec
Cammalleri
Eller

Are my 5.
So Pacioretty and someone else is too much to ask for?

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Price
Subban
Pacioretty
Eller
Cammy
Gorges
Gallagher
Gallagher is not on the Habs current roster.

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11-12-2011, 02:37 PM
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7 is too many to choose from. 5 would be better.

Price
Subban
Plekanec
Cammalleri
Eller

Are my 5.
Yeah because cammalleri is such a consistent/ complete player.

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11-12-2011, 02:40 PM
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Yeah because cammalleri is such a consistent/ complete player.
He's not the only one that picked Cammalleri. Just odd that he narrowed the list down to 5 and has Cammalleri over Pacioretty.

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11-12-2011, 02:43 PM
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-Price
-Subban
-Pacioretty
-Gorges (capitain material, good complementary player, good cap-hit in a salary cap context makes him even more important to keep)
-Cammalleri (our best sniper, period)
-Plekanec (our best all-arround forward, still young)
-7th? I don't really care... A young player for salary purposes. Eller or Beaulieu perhaps?

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11-12-2011, 02:49 PM
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Interesting discussion. My 7 would be:

1) Price
2) Subban
3) Pacioretty
4) Plekanec
5) Eller
6) Gorges
7) Markov

I've always loved Markov and after an adjustment period I believe he'll be able to bring it again. Cammalleri's and Gionta's contract would probably prevent them from being picked up anyways so might not have to protect them. Kostitsyn and Cole are risky to leave unprotected IMO but not enough to make the top 7. I don't really understand people protecting White, I love him as a player and is glad he is part of the team but he's nothing overly special considering most if not all teams will leave that kind of player unprotected.

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11-12-2011, 02:53 PM
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Gomez
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Andrei
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In seriousness though,

Markov
Price
Pacioretty
Plekanec
Eller
Subban
Andrei (yes)

To the people for White...seriously? A dime a dozen grinder.

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11-12-2011, 03:00 PM
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To the people for White...seriously? A dime a dozen grinder.
I chose him because it's refreshing to have a young player that was drafted and developed by the Habs and plays with fire and passion, protecting his teammates whenever he can and hitting everything.

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11-12-2011, 03:02 PM
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To the guys not getting the White picks (I kept him off mine, but DO understand)

Y'all say he's dime a dozen... That's AFTER he's been through the wringer... It's hard to find a young version of White, who is available...

I think people will be pleasently surprised in a few years by him... He is so much more better than advertised.

I eventually see him as a tough as nails grizzled vet 3rd liner, who you want to go to war beside. I also think he will have the penchant to pop some great timely goals.

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11-12-2011, 04:53 PM
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  1. Price
  2. Subban
  3. Plekanec
  4. Pacioretty
  5. Eller
  6. Cammalleri
  7. Markov (if healthy), if not Gorges.

Would be my 7.


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11-12-2011, 06:54 PM
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Y'all say he's dime a dozen... That's AFTER he's been through the wringer... It's hard to find a young version of White, who is available...
A younger version of White? He's 23!

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11-12-2011, 07:30 PM
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1) Price
2) Plekanec
3) Subban
4) Markov
5) Paccioretty
6) Cammalleri
7) Eller

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11-12-2011, 07:43 PM
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Yeah because cammalleri is such a consistent/ complete player.
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He's not the only one that picked Cammalleri. Just odd that he narrowed the list down to 5 and has Cammalleri over Pacioretty.
I forgot about pacioretty, fail. lol Either way, it's my list, I'd have cammy in there as top 5 anyway, above Eller.

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Price
Subban
Eller
Plekanec
Gorges
Pacioretty
Cammalleri
This looks right, I wouldn't take anyone over 30

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11-12-2011, 10:18 PM
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A younger version of White? He's 23!
D'oh! lol

Good catch

I meant that a player LIKE White usually dont become available until UFA sets in, and by then, their bodies are mostly gone.

To have a young player (in White) playing that style... It's hard to actually acquire through trade, or waivers

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11-12-2011, 11:39 PM
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I forgot about pacioretty, fail. lol Either way, it's my list, I'd have cammy in there as top 5 anyway, above Eller.
I usually agree with you, but i need explanations because i don't see cammy as a player i would build around. I see him as a michael ryder type of player with more skills. A selfish player who doesn,t really know what to do with the puck and only shoots. His passing is horible and he is weak on his skates...he could at least be consistent, but. He's not. I would only take playoff cammy.

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I usually agree with you, but i need explanations because i don't see cammy as a player i would build around. I see him as a michael ryder type of player with more skills. A selfish player who doesn,t really know what to do with the puck and only shoots. His passing is horible and he is weak on his skates...he could at least be consistent, but. He's not. I would only take playoff cammy.
You're just wrong.

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Eller
Plekanec

5 spots is enough really, all other players are much less relevant than these 5 going down. Heck with the other 2 spots I'd protect Tinordi and Beaulieu.

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7 is too many to choose from. 5 would be better.

Price
Subban
Plekanec
Cammalleri
Eller

Are my 5.
How could you not have MaxPac ? And Cammy hasn't done that much outside of his amazing playoff run.

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11-13-2011, 02:59 AM
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I usually agree with you, but i need explanations because i don't see cammy as a player i would build around. I see him as a michael ryder type of player with more skills. A selfish player who doesn,t really know what to do with the puck and only shoots. His passing is horible and he is weak on his skates...he could at least be consistent, but. He's not. I would only take playoff cammy.
Fact of the matter is it's all nice and dandy to talk about young players with potential, but in the case of eller vs cammalleri, I'd take young pieces in subban, price, maxpac and I'd try to hang on to our best offensive player. Yes, he's no ovechkin nor is he a semin type offensively, but he's a good character guy and a notch below elite in terms of being a sniper. We can sit and play the 'who has more potential' game all we like, and as much as a I like eller, the reality is, if we talk about who has more likelyhood of being a first line player and a clutch player, cammy wins because he's actually done both. I played the game rather differently. I feel, if we lose a player with potential, we can replace him, not easily, but he's not at a premium we assume him to be. Take Bergfors for example, while not at Eller's level, guys like him, pyatt, pouliot and others aren't qualified sometimes. Because young project types aren't as great as people make them out to be. You need a mix of established players and youngsters. I felt cammalleri was harder to replace via trade or open market than eller, so I choose Cammy as my core. Again, he's not consistent, but neither is Eller. Take it from a guy who wants a young team and all that, but I think having a Cammy+Plekanec tandem is good, they're in their prime, clutch and can surprise offensively.

If I had to choose 7, I'd add eller and gorges/markov. The latter depending on my mood that day, so far gorges looks good, but logic tells me, markov at 80%>>>Gorges. So...I'd prob choose markov.

I'd be tempted to choose all the young upcoming guys, but let's be honest here, if I did, and I were GM, I'd be what, NYI? I mean, choosing for success goes past the realm of "what can you do for me 5 years from now?" banking on guys who may reach their prime at same time they reach UFA status is poor management. You need the established legit 1st liners to give the youngsters room to develop. I'll say this much, sticking to the theme, a guy like Okposo would be better in SJ. Why? because there's real legit vets who get the attention and tougher competition that make the growth of the pavelski's, couture's and so on possible. I'm not saying take ANY vet or that Cammy is "da best", but he's our best pure sniper and is a clutch player. Fact of the matter is I can't ignore that. If you depend on 2nd tier prospects(by 2nd tier I mean, not taylor hall, seguin and so on in that upper class) you may ruin their development and not be a competitive team.

Bottom 6 players are a dime a dozen, so i'm not gonna stress about the other young players or grinders.

If we look at next year's UFA class, not one can replace cammalleri.

Yes, there's parise & semin who are legit top liners but odds are a way to retain both will be achieved or they will be too hard to get. Even at that point, suppose a guy like Semin reaches July 1st and we can acquire him for market value. Consider this, do you really have confidence in semin to be the go to guy for a weak offensive team missing a cammalleri? I don't. His talent is undeniable, but I consider parise the better of the two and parise won't touch July 1st and if he does, good luck. It does not mean I wouldn't take semin on the team, just means I still feel camalleri's ability to rise in the playoffs gives guys like semin and others more room and less pressure.

I know I probably overthink the situation, but I find it absolutely boring to just pick and choose "Oh, i like him" "he might be good in 2 years". So I try to form a logic about it and in doing so, I choose cammalleri. Hope I answered your question.

As for his passing skills(just an example, smart plays count you know):



Also, let's not forget Cammy CAN play point and has in LA(i believe). Things like this make him more versatile IMO.

Examples of that and his sniping skills here:



Thanks to fel and watsa for the vids.

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How could you not have MaxPac ? And Cammy hasn't done that much outside of his amazing playoff run.
I made a mistake with pacioretty. Replace Eller with maxpac. I chose 5 to make it more difficult, 7 is far too easy. Cammy has been injured a lot, and besides his 'amazing playoff run' he has multiple excellent seasons in other markets with and without Iginla(before someone says this). In a non-defensive team, he's a 30 goal 70 point guy IMO.


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11-13-2011, 05:09 PM
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these are my picks

Patches
Subban
Price
Gorges
Pleckanec
Ak 46
ELLER

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Price, Subban, Eller, Pacioretty, Cammalleri, Plekanec and Gorges.

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Patches
Subban
Price
Gorges
Pleckanec
Ak 46
ELLER

copy that

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Markov, Subban, Price, Pac, Plex, Eller, Cammy

The 3 alternate choices would be Gorges, Gionta and AK.

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I usually agree with you, but i need explanations because i don't see cammy as a player i would build around. I see him as a michael ryder type of player with more skills. A selfish player who doesn,t really know what to do with the puck and only shoots. His passing is horible and he is weak on his skates...he could at least be consistent, but. He's not. I would only take playoff cammy.
Your analysis is what is horrible.

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Price, Subban, Gorges, Emelin(he is a Georges clone with more size and a better hitter, if only the count would let this guy play), Pacioretty, Plekanec and Cole(this guy is what we have needed for years).

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