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11-10-2011, 07:28 PM
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Stan Smyl or Ryan Smyth

Better all-time player?

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Ryan Smyth and I don't think it's close

Smyth was good enough to be picked on numerous Canadian teams. Smyl was solid, but never even cam close to that level in his career.

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Ryan Smyth and I don't think it's close

Smyth was good enough to be picked on numerous Canadian teams. Smyl was solid, but never even cam close to that level in his career.
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11-11-2011, 03:30 AM
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as awesome a guy as Smyl was, it's gotta be Smyth... a mis-ranking not yet rectified by the ATD process.

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Smyth is still useful, even if he's not quite what he used to be. At age 35 no less. Hell even at age 29, Smyl wasn't as good as Smyth is now. Smyl had less skill but worked dilligently for a 5'10 guy. Even Smyl's best season when adjusted to Smyth's era pales in comparison, his 1982-83 performance of 38 goals, 88 points in 74 games is probably brought down to about 28 goals, 65 points if played today or in Smyth's prime dead puck era years. After 1987 Smyl was nothing but a grinder anyway though. Provided leadership, sandpaper but his physical skills diminished, his health declined and without them he had little natural scoring ability to rely on.

Steamer only scored 10 goals in his final 167 NHL games before retiring at age 33- a rather late age for players of this time period to retire at in fact. But much like Smyth was a beacon in dismal times for Oiler fans, so was Smyl in an even more dismal situation in Vancouver (0 winning seasons between 1976 and 1991, four playoff series wins all-time before 1992 and three of them came in 1982). Smyl's number retired makes sense, not so sure Smyth will see the same because names like Coffey, Kurri, Gretzky, Fuhr and Messier are truly elite. You'd have to imagine a guy like Kevin Lowe, Doug Weight or Glenn Anderson deserves it first... then again there is the Al Hamilton argument hehe.


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Ryan Smyth is the better player.

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Smyl and Smyth are my kind of players. I'd give Smyth the edge both in terms of longevity and of peak performance but Smyl is my favorite Canuck ever.

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I never saw Smyl but Captain Canada has big heart.

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Glenn Andersons number IS retired. Hence the cobras #93.

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