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11-14-2011, 10:48 PM
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Cammy-Pleks-Cole

Just a thought came to my mind. Now that Cole has gotten used to our system and has started to develop a good chemistry with Cammy and Cammy already sharing a good chemistry with Pleks

Will it be a good idea to put Cammy and Cole back with Pleks ?

I believe that this line may just work out fine if we give it a chance

What do you guys think?

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Just a thought came to my mind. Now that Cole has gotten used to our system and has started to develop a good chemistry with Cammy and Cammy already sharing a good chemistry with Pleks

Will it be a good idea to put Cammy and Cole back with Pleks ?

I believe that this line may just work out fine if we give it a chance

What do you guys think?
So you would like to break a combination that works to try one that hasn't worked in the past? Why?

And you never thought that if Cole is suddenly playing, maybe it's because he's now found 2 partners he's comfortable to play with?

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You gotta keep Cole with Desharnais and Pacioretty for now!

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I agree with bud dont break that line up they seem to be doing things well. They should try the A.T.M line out again when cammy and akost come back

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Desharnais has the chance 2 play with 2 big skilled wingers, thats a perfect fit, if you want to give DD all the chances to succeed, keep that line intact..

Gionta Pleks Cammy

Max DD Cole

Moen Eller A.Kost

Darche Noko Gomez/Palushaj

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It should be:

AK - Pleks - Cammy
MP67 - DD - Cole
Gomez - Eller - Gio
Moen - Noke - Darche

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11-15-2011, 07:37 AM
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With healthy forwards, this is what I want to see:

Cammy - Pleks - MaxPac
Gomer - DD - Cole
AK - Eller - Gio
Moen - Nokes - Darche\White

All lines are well balanced. The only thing I feel weak about this line-up is faceoff depth on each line - exception noted on the 2nd line. In fact, Eller's faceoff ability is what worries me a bit and neither of AK or Gionta is suitable backups. Even so, if that line doesn't win the faceoff they'll get possession anyways...

Putting Gomez and Eller on the same line is impossible since both like to bring the puck in the offensive zone. And the Gomez-Gionta duo has long gone its effectiveness. Putting Gomer on the wing will force him to shoot more which implies to get more involve in the play.

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11-15-2011, 07:42 AM
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It should be:

AK - Pleks - Cammy
MP67 - DD - Cole
Gomez - Eller - Gio
Moen - Noke - Darche
I like this, except splitting up AK and Eller might be a huge mistake. Maybe switch Plekanec and Eller?

If anyone can get anything useful out of Gomez, it's Pleks.

Say 44-minutes of ES TOI per game;

Gomez - Plekanec - Gionta 12
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole 12
Cammalleri - Eller - Kostitsyn 13
Moen - Nokelainen - Darche 7

PP
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Weber - Plekanec (just because we know he's stuck there)

Cammalleri - Gomez - Gionta (I'd use Eller & Kostitsyn with Cammy, but like that would ever happen).
Subban - Diaz


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11-15-2011, 08:03 AM
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What I would go with healthy for offense:

Cammy-Plekanec-Gionta 30%
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole 30%
Moen-Eller-Kostitsyn 30%
White-Noke-Darche 10%
13th: Gomez

I've backed this guy up for years but honestly he's a 4th liner at this point. I won't defend him again until he actually produces. I'm tired of waiting for the real Gomez to show up. Or maybe this is the real Gomez and New Jersey just had "good year Gomez"

For defense:

Markov-Emelin
Subban-Gorges
Weber/Diaz-Campoli
Gill
Spacek (traded cause he's UFA and can land a late pick)

I actually like what I'm seeing of Emelin more and more and think when Markov is back he'll be a rock for us. He needs to play on a balanced pairing just like Komi did.

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Gomez - Plekanec - Gionta
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Cammalleri - Eller - Kostitsyn
Moen - Nokelainen - Darche
I like these lines a lot, hopefully the team will get healthy enough to make them possible at some point haha. It'll be interesting to see if Martin actually continues to use Gomez on the wing. Right now I don't see how he has a choice but if one of DD or Eller starts to struggle I could see him moving them around pretty quickly.

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I love Max and Cole on the same line. Cole is a power forward and is a great role model for Pax to learn from. DD has chemistry with Pax since Hamilton so I wouldn't mess with it.
Cammy and Plex is a great combo as are Eller and AK. Gio and Gomer was great until Gomer fell off the face of the earth. Now Gio needs to find a new partner or get Gomez going.
I'd stick with these duos and supplement them with whatever is missing from those lines ie size, speed etc.

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As much as I think DD has been great, I think plek centering maxpac and cole would be a bonified first line.
I would give Eller Ak and Cammy., and make DD play with gionta and Gomez/Moen.

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As much as I think DD has been great, I think plek centering maxpac and cole would be a bonified first line.
I would give Eller Ak and Cammy., and make DD play with gionta and Gomez/Moen.
Do you see a problem there? I know I do. Plekanec is our top center but I like DD with the two PWF. Plekanec could use a better winger(Gionta has been bad) and Cammy has been hurt. If healthy I see this(bare no trades)

Cammy-Plekanec-Gionta
Pac-DD-Cole
Moen-Eller-AK
Darche-Noks-Gomez

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Do you see a problem there? I know I do. Plekanec is our top center but I like DD with the two PWF. Plekanec could use a better winger(Gionta has been bad) and Cammy has been hurt. If healthy I see this(bare no trades)

Cammy-Plekanec-Gionta
Pac-DD-Cole
Moen-Eller-AK
Darche-Noks-Gomez
I hate Gionta with Plekanec. If you want to keep the combos of AK/Eller & Cammy/Pleks together, I'd try Gomez with Pleks and Gionta with Eller/AK.

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I hate Gionta with Plekanec. If you want to keep the combos of AK/Eller & Cammy/Pleks together, I'd try Gomez with Pleks and Gionta with Eller/AK.
I think that is a recipe for failure.
Small sample size, but DD with Gomez and Gionta played well in last year's playoffs.

Plek is our best center, time to give him the best wingers.

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Well Gionta has been real bad and useless with Plekanec but where else....and Gomez

Also note that I really dislike the way this team is built. Our Defense is scary unbalanced(but cheap) OK NOTE TO SELF.....DON"T RANT

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I think that is a recipe for failure.
Small sample size, but DD with Gomez and Gionta played well in last year's playoffs.

Plek is our best center, time to give him the best wingers.
OK I got then, let's put all the midget together cause overall this looks better!

Cammy-DD-Gionta
Cole-Gomex-Pac
Eller-Plekanec-AK
Darch-Noks-Moen

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Well Gionta has been real bad and useless with Plekanec but where else....
Yeah, it's been a problem. But I wouldn't break the DD line and Eller needs to play center.

So I'd give a try at this lineup :

Cammalleri-Plekanec-Moen*
Cole-Desharnais-Pacioretty
Kostitsyn**-Eller-Gionta
Gomez***-Nokelainen-Darche

* I know, some of you will freak out seeing Moen on the so called "first line"! But actually, the Pleky line plays against the opposing top line, so Moen would fit just well, providing physicality and defense awareness. I know he plays LW, so it would require an adjustment in his play.

**Some prefer Kostitsyn on the RW, but he's showed he can produce on the LW with Kovalev. + I think Gionta would look great there, playing with two bigger players and great passers.

***The real question is : can you really keep Gomez on the 4th line for a long time? Probably not, unless you give him huge time on the PP to satisfy him. You need a happy Gomez in the room and on the bench.


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Yeah, it's been a problem. But I wouldn't break the DD line and Eller needs to play center.

So I'd give a try at this lineup :

Cammalleri-Plekanec-Moen*
Cole-Desharnais-Pacioretty
Kostitsyn**-Eller-Gionta
Gomez***-Nokelainen-Darche

* I know, some of you will freak out seeing Moen on the so called "first line"! But actually, the Pleky line plays against the opposing top line, so Moen would fit just well, providing physicality and defense awareness. I know he plays LW, so it would require an adjustment in his play.

**Some prefer Kostitsyn on the RW, but he's showed he can produce on the LW with Kovalev. + I think Gionta would look great there, playing with two bigger players and great passers.

***The real question is : can you really keep Gomez on the 4th line for a long time? Probably not, unless you give him huge time on the PP to satisfy him. You need a happy Gomez in the room and on the bench.
Well I like your thinking and your lines looks great(aside from the 4th)
Plekanec needs a guy like Moen who is good defensively and can suprise with clutch goals(vs the Yotes) He could keep some guys honest toward Pleakanec and Cammalleri and do some good forchecking.
I like your duo of Eller-AK and captain Gionta, maybe that sparks and fire under the captain's ss and start producing again.
Gomez on the 4th can't be a good thing long term but the Habs must play in the NOW mode. With the season being ssooooo long, Gomez could get an other chance!

PS:In all honestly, no matter how you shape up the 4 line up front, our Defense is scarry bad. It's not the skills that lakes but all around attribute to balance it out. They (Pierre Gauthier) rolled the dice here and that is a error that may cost us the PO. Time is limited and action is required sooner then later.

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For defense:

Markov-Emelin
Subban-Gorges
Weber/Diaz-Campoli
Gill
Spacek (traded cause he's UFA and can land a late pick)

I actually like what I'm seeing of Emelin more and more and think when Markov is back he'll be a rock for us. He needs to play on a balanced pairing just like Komi did.
Gotta love it when posters base their lineup on how they wish players were playing rather than how they actually are. C'mon man, Spacek traded? He's been our most steady dman. Weber/Diaz/Campoli above Gill? Do you value penalty killing at all?

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It should be:

AK - Pleks - Cammy
MP67 - DD - Cole
Gomez - Eller - Gio
Moen - Noke - Darche
100% behind you!!!

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PS:In all honestly, no matter how you shape up the 4 line up front, our Defense is scarry bad. It's not the skills that lakes but all around attribute to balance it out. They (Pierre Gauthier) rolled the dice here and that is a error that may cost us the PO. Time is limited and action is required sooner then later.
You're right. The problem isn't up front. Actually, looking at our D, it's surprising we're playing for ,500!

I still don't understand what happened with Markov. Because clearly, if PG decided to re-sign him and to let go Hamrlik, it was because he thought he was healthy and ready to go.

It's unfortunate, cause 25 mins a night of a healthy Markov would turn this team into something special.

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You're right. The problem isn't up front. Actually, looking at our D, it's surprising we're playing for ,500!

I still don't understand what happened with Markov. Because clearly, if PG decided to re-sign him and to let go Hamrlik, it was because he thought he was healthy and ready to go.It's unfortunate, cause 25 mins a night of a healthy Markov would turn this team into something special.
I don't think it's the case here, I would guess that he was sure Emelin would adapt quicker. Once he saw that it was not the case, he signed Campoli and he got hurt. Spacek not able to stay healthy is not helping either.
IMO, they were betting Markov would be ready earlier and were wrong.
They were sure Emelin would step in nicely....wrong again
So on and so on!

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Still would love to try Pacioretty - Eller - Kostitsyn.

3 big bodies who can do everything.

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Gotta love it when posters base their lineup on how they wish players were playing rather than how they actually are. C'mon man, Spacek traded? He's been our most steady dman. Weber/Diaz/Campoli above Gill? Do you value penalty killing at all?
Gotta love it when posters base their lineup on how they wish players were playing rather than how they actually are. C'mon man, Spacek our most steady d-man?

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Gotta love it when posters base their lineup on how they wish players were playing rather than how they actually are. C'mon man, Spacek traded? He's been our most steady dman. Weber/Diaz/Campoli above Gill? Do you value penalty killing at all?
I stated the reason dude. He's a pending UFA and due to how he's playing would have value.

Also if you don't think Campoli can replace the presence of Spacek imo you're wrong. He may not be the best player in the world but he's costing us 1.75 mil anyways and we have like 9 D.

Gill has been awful this season in nearly every facet of the game and I'm normally a Gill fan. I know he'll show up in the playoffs when it matters but you make it sound like he's been stellar. With Markov/Campoli both back we would be fine without the presence of Gill/Spacek. Spacek has been solid, hence why we'll get a pick for him. Better than losing him for nothing and if you think this is the year then you're even crazier than I am for wanting to get a pick out of a pending UFA.

You make it sound like I said Spacek sucks which I didn't. All I said is that he's the pending UFA we'll get something for. The way Gill has played he won't fetch anything, maybe a 7th at best. Remember what we paid for Sopel. We could get a similar return for Spacek but the way Gill has been playing I doubt we'd even hear many offers. Plus since Gill shows up in the PO I'd rather hold onto him versus Spacek.

I didn't base ANYTHING about my lineup on how I wish players were playing, nice job making a very bad assumption though even though in my OP I explained why I'd do the moves I'd do

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