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11-15-2011, 01:00 PM
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Nov. 15 Top 10

CIS Men's Hockey Top 10 - Nov. 15

(regular season record) / votes (first-place votes) / (previous rankings)

1. UNB (8-1-1) / 168 pts (16) / (1)
2. McGill (9-1-2) / 131 (1) / (2)
3. Saskatchewan (7-1-1) / 121 / (3) *
4. Western Ontario (8-0-2) / 121 / (4)
5. Moncton (8-2-0) / 108 / (5)
6. Alberta (8-2-2) / 98 / (6)
7. Acadia (6-3-1) / 50 / (10)
8. Manitoba (6-2-2) / 46 / (7)
9. Lakehead (9-3-0) / 43 / (8)
10. Nipissing (8-2-3) / 18 / (NR)

* Saskatchewan edged Western for third place based on number of higher-placed votes.

Other teams receiving votes: Carleton (14), Calgary (8), Saint Maryís (6), Windsor (2).

Comment: Not a lot of movement. Top 6 all the same. Of note Acadia moved up 3 spots while Manitoba and Lakekead each slipped a spot.

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This week Head-2-Head

#1 UNB at #10 Acadia (6-5 SO win for Acadia at Home)

OUA
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CW
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Upsets
SMU (AUS 4th) at #4 UdeM 5-4 SO for UdeM at Home
#2 McGill at UQTR (OUA-East 4th) 3-1 UQTR upset at Home
#3 Western at Waterloo (OUA-W 3rd) 4-2 for UWO as Visitor
#6 Alberta at UBC (possible split) AB wins both 4-1
Quite the run-and-gun scoring game for UNB/ACD. UNB played great then ran-around then great. Not sure what to think sometimes. They did get 3 points out of 4 and remain tops in the AUS, 1 ahead of UdeM.

The SMU/UdeM game shows how tight the AUS is. 3 of 4 AUS games on Saturday night went to SO.

Head-2-Head this week

AUS
(Sun) #5 UdeM @ #1 UNB (afternoon game) for 1st place?

OUA
none

CW
none

Upsets/Games to Watch
(FRI) #5 UdeM at STU (STU is tough at home now).
(SAT) #7 ACD at #13 SMU (both T3 in AUS with 13pts)
(SAT/SUN) #3 USask at #12 UC (could be a split) UC is 1pt behind USask for 2nd
(SAT/SUN) #9 LKD at #14 Windsor. Two wins for Windsor would get them to T2 with LKD (just behind Western)

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UNB's loss to UPEI cost them four more #1 votes for McGill.

CIS MENíS HOCKEY TOP 10 (#6)

Voting is based on a 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis, with a 1st place vote worth 10 points. The CIS Menís Ice Hockey Top Ten Committee is made up of media members from across Canada.

(regular season record) / votes (first-place votes) / (previous rankings)

1. UNB (9-2-1) / 165 pts (12) / (1)
2. McGill (10-1-2) / 148 (5) / (2)
3. Moncton (9-3-0) / 107 / (5)
4. Western Ontario (9-1-2) / 104 / (4)
5. Alberta (8-2-2) / 102 / (6)
6. Acadia (8-3-1) / 80 / (7)
7. Saskatchewan (7-2-2) / 71 / (3)
8. Lakehead (11-3-0) / 63 / (9)
9. Calgary (9-5-0) / 43 / (NR)
10. Manitoba (7-3-2) / 22 / (8)

Other teams receiving votes: UQTR (10), Nipissing (9), UPEI (7), Carleton (3), Saint Maryís (2).

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Head-2-Head this week

AUS
(Sun) #5 UdeM @ #1 UNB (afternoon game) for 1st place? UNB Win 2-1
UNB regains 1st place.


OUA
none

CW
none

Upsets/Games to Watch
(FRI) #5 UdeM at STU (STU is tough at home now). UdeM scored with 1.23 left in the 3rd
(SAT) #7 ACD at #13 SMU (both T3 in AUS with 13pts) ACD won 4-2
(SAT/SUN) #3 USask at #12 UC (could be a split) UC is 1pt behind USask for 2nd UC upsets USask for 4pts. USask gets 1pt
(SAT/SUN) #9 LKD at #14 Windsor. Two wins for Windsor would get them to T2 with LKD (just behind Western) LKD wins both games and takes over 1st in OUA-West
B]Head-2-Head this week[/B]

AUS
none

OUA
none

CW
#9 UC @ #10 UMan

Possible Upsets/Games to Watch
(Sat) #6 ACD at SFX (with only one game this weekend for the AUS teams - a must win for X or they could end up being caught by STU next term)
(Sat)#2 McG at Nipissing (only game for each team this weekend). A win for Nipissing and a probable win for UQTR over RMC could result in a 3-way tie for 1st in OUA-East McGill has two games in-hand
(Sat/Sun) #5 ALB at Regina. Regina is at home and could get the split.

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3. Moncton (9-3-0) / 107 / (5)
4. Western Ontario (9-1-2) / 104 / (4)
5. Alberta (8-2-2) / 102 / (6)
Even though Moncton moved up 2 spots to 3rd (interesting to see two AUS teams in the top 3) - No solid #3-4-5 choices with Moncton coming out on-top of the split vote.

It use to be common to see the Conference champions 1-2-3 then the rest of the country - I guess no one was sure about placing Alb as 3rd? I know they didn't play, but still remain in 1st despite having a bye-weekend.

136 is a 'clean' 3rd place.
119 for 4th
102 for 5th

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My Laurier Golden Hawks handed Western their first regulation loss of the season! w00t!

It's because of our goalie though...he's so good.

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"(Sat) #6 ACD at SFX (with only one game this weekend for the AUS teams"

ACA-SFX play Fri and Sun.

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UNB's loss to UPEI cost them four more #1 votes for McGill.

CIS MENíS HOCKEY TOP 10 (#6)

Voting is based on a 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis, with a 1st place vote worth 10 points. The CIS Menís Ice Hockey Top Ten Committee is made up of media members from across Canada.

(regular season record) / votes (first-place votes) / (previous rankings)

1. UNB (9-2-1) / 165 pts (12) / (1)
2. McGill (10-1-2) / 148 (5) / (2)
3. Moncton (9-3-0) / 107 / (5)
4. Western Ontario (9-1-2) / 104 / (4)
5. Alberta (8-2-2) / 102 / (6)
6. Acadia (8-3-1) / 80 / (7)
7. Saskatchewan (7-2-2) / 71 / (3)
8. Lakehead (11-3-0) / 63 / (9)
9. Calgary (9-5-0) / 43 / (NR)
10. Manitoba (7-3-2) / 22 / (8)

Other teams receiving votes: UQTR (10), Nipissing (9), UPEI (7), Carleton (3), Saint Maryís (2).
SMU just isnt the same team they were last year.Since the national championship team they have lost quite a few key guys who have done the following in the last 2 years.

Andrew Hotham-54gp,76 points,14 goals,62 assists,+27, AUS MVP,CIS defenseman of the year,2 time team team MVP,1st team CIS All-Canadian,2-time 1st team AUS all-star

Cam Fergus-54gp,71 points,33 goals,38 assists,+19, 2-time CIS(AUS) most sportsmanlike player(Could be back after things in the ECHL didnt work out)

Marc Rancourt-27gp,41 points,8 goals,33 assists,+9,Left the school in 2010 as captain and former CIS Player of the year,AUS first team all-star

David Macdonald-54gp,55 points,9 goals,44 assists,+28,2-time AUS second team

Cody Thornton-28gp,33 points,24 goals,9 assists,+1,left school in 2010,2-time AUS second team all-star

SMU have always had slow starts and at last years AUS championship game 5 the game was lost in OT have the puck had stopped in the front of the net due to the rink operators beautiful ice job but in the St Thomas game it seemed as if they barely squeaked out with the win so for the way they have played as of late but i think a 7-4-1 record is a good start.The national championship year record was 16-8-4 and they have won AUS championships with 14 win years so I personally count them out for the AUS title but with UNB and Acadia in the conference who they have a 1-5 record against so far combined and have to face another 4 times it wont be easy.

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SMU just isnt the same team they were last year.Since the national championship team they have lost quite a few key guys who have done the following in the last 2 years.

Andrew Hotham-54gp,76 points,14 goals,62 assists,+27, AUS MVP,CIS defenseman of the year,2 time team team MVP,1st team CIS All-Canadian,2-time 1st team AUS all-star

Cam Fergus-54gp,71 points,33 goals,38 assists,+19, 2-time CIS(AUS) most sportsmanlike player(Could be back after things in the ECHL didnt work out)

Marc Rancourt-27gp,41 points,8 goals,33 assists,+9,Left the school in 2010 as captain and former CIS Player of the year,AUS first team all-star

David Macdonald-54gp,55 points,9 goals,44 assists,+28,2-time AUS second team

Cody Thornton-28gp,33 points,24 goals,9 assists,+1,left school in 2010,2-time AUS second team all-star

SMU have always had slow starts and at last years AUS championship game 5 the game was lost in OT have the puck had stopped in the front of the net due to the rink operators beautiful ice job but in the St Thomas game it seemed as if they barely squeaked out with the win so for the way they have played as of late but i think a 7-4-1 record is a good start.The national championship year record was 16-8-4 and they have won AUS championships with 14 win years so I personally count them out for the AUS title but with UNB and Acadia in the conference who they have a 1-5 record against so far combined and have to face another 4 times it wont be easy.
Just a Note you do realize Cam Fergus still plays for St Mary's right? College Hockey is constantly a revolving door and thats the name of the game, replace players with Quality Recruits. I have to say in the first bit of the season I thought St Mary's was looking really bad, but theyve got better with each game and are playing well, but would you expect anything different with a Trevor Steinburgh Coached team? They had some solid new recruits who needed some time to gel, and they are now. the biggest Difference with SMU is Hotham, McDonald the Other Hotham at one time, Rancourt and Cody Thorton had the best Power Play Ive ever seen in the CIS, that was their bread and butter, but theyre finding other ways to win now. Cam Fergus is the only one remaining that used to get first line Power Play Time, and i think hes been playing a little hurt the past year and a half, back problems or something

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He is back and playing really well actually. Thorton and Rancourt have been gone for two years now. That is an "eon" in the AUS. I agree CIS, at the beginning of the year I was very skeptical. I have only seen them live twice, once here in PEI at the beginning of the season and in Moncton a few weeks later, a 4-3 shootout loss. As UdeM jumped out to a 3-0 lead early in the second, I thought it is going to be a long rebuild. Then at about the midpoint of the second, they just took over, as you say, a TS coached team, they thrive on that deep cycle and corner play, just wave after wave of it, they also hit four posts, then MacKinnon's backhand in the shootout also went off the post. All in all I was really surprised, they were much better squad then I thought and saw in Charlottetown. Acadia has had their number for years, notwithstanding the 3-1 series win the year of the CIS championship (2010) I think they play better on the road than they do in the Forum actually, but I could be wrong. It is hard to see the details on webcast. Anyway, to get to the CIS tournament, you need to have several national calibre all star types, I agree, but they'll hold their own this year.

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Just a Note you do realize Cam Fergus still plays for St Mary's right? College Hockey is constantly a revolving door and thats the name of the game, replace players with Quality Recruits. I have to say in the first bit of the season I thought St Mary's was looking really bad, but theyve got better with each game and are playing well, but would you expect anything different with a Trevor Steinburgh Coached team? They had some solid new recruits who needed some time to gel, and they are now. the biggest Difference with SMU is Hotham, McDonald the Other Hotham at one time, Rancourt and Cody Thorton had the best Power Play Ive ever seen in the CIS, that was their bread and butter, but theyre finding other ways to win now. Cam Fergus is the only one remaining that used to get first line Power Play Time, and i think hes been playing a little hurt the past year and a half, back problems or something
Oh thanks i never realized Fergus was back.It must have been recent because i was at the game about 2 weeks ago and he wasnt back yet.Im pretty sure hes listed in the program as a graduate and hes not listed anywhere as on the roster but my buddy says he played against DAL.Good to have him back.And just to clear it up i have no doubt SMU will be a playoff team

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"(Sat) #6 ACD at SFX (with only one game this weekend for the AUS teams"

ACA-SFX play Fri and Sun.
Ok - missed that.

Even more important for X than to at least split.

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Oh thanks i never realized Fergus was back.It must have been recent because i was at the game about 2 weeks ago and he wasnt back yet.Im pretty sure hes listed in the program as a graduate and hes not listed anywhere as on the roster but my buddy says he played against DAL.Good to have him back.And just to clear it up i have no doubt SMU will be a playoff team
Fergus was "gone" after last season, but he came back to the Huskies just before their first game of this season, much like Bailey with UNB. Might have even been after the 1st game ... I don't trust my memory. AUS Fan probably has a better handlie on Fergus "graduating" and then coming back.

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Fergus played in the third game (SMU home opener). He had a tryout in Europe and two in the Coast.

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Nov. 29 Top 10

(regular season record) / votes (first-place votes) / (previous rankings)

1. UNB (10-2-1) / 165 pts (14) / (1)
2. McGill (12-1-2) / 146 (2) / (2)
3. Alberta (10-2-2) / 122 / (5)
4. Western Ontario (11-1-2) / 113 / (4)
5. Moncton (9-4-0) / 81 / (3)
6. Saskatchewan (9-2-2) / 79 / (7)
7. Acadia (9-4-1) / 76 / (6)
8. Lakehead (13-3-0) / 70 (1) / (8)
9. Manitoba (9-3-2) / 40 / (10)
10. UQTR (12-5-0) / 23 / (NR)


Other teams receiving votes: Calgary (8), UPEI (5), Waterloo (3), Ottawa (3), Saint Maryís (1).

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Kind of odd that we received a 1st place vote

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So odd that I missed it when I tweeted out the Top 10 a few minutes ago. And then the math didn't add up, so I though CIS made a mistake, which I had to publicly state on UNB fan site. And send an email to the CIS. Doh!


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Based on the records in the last 2 polls, neither McGill nor UNB lost. All we did was beat Laurier, so I'm not sure what made someone take away a 1st from either of them and give it to us.

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Based on the records in the last 2 polls, neither McGill nor UNB lost. All we did was beat Laurier, so I'm not sure what made someone take away a 1st from either of them and give it to us.
My guess is that a voter looked at the CIS standings, saw Lakehead in 1st place in their division with 26 points like McGill (forgetting that it came in 16 games played whereas McGill has played 15 games and UNB has earned 21 points in 13 GP) and noted that they are 9-1 in their last ten games which is tops in the CIS. They probably also didn't make any mental adjustments for strength of schedule or anything else.

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And forgot that we are 0-2 vs McGill lol. Oh well, I'll take it

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My guess is that a voter looked at the CIS standings, saw Lakehead in 1st place in their division with 26 points like McGill (forgetting that it came in 16 games played whereas McGill has played 15 games and UNB has earned 21 points in 13 GP) and noted that they are 9-1 in their last ten games which is tops in the CIS. They probably also didn't make any mental adjustments for strength of schedule or anything else.
my guess is the voter was from lakehead!

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my guess is the voter was from lakehead!
there is no way the voter was from lakehead! This is a city that follows CIS hockey and are educated in who is good and who is not. Lakehead is good... but no one is pretending we are #1 at this point... I hope! ha

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B]Head-2-Head this week[/B]

AUS
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OUA
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CW
#9 UC @ #10 UMan - UMan wins both games leaving UC standing still in 4th

Possible Upsets/Games to Watch
(Sat) #6 ACD at SFX (with only one game this weekend for the AUS teams - a must win for X or they could end up being caught by STU next term) Actually two games for X (my mistake) and X got 3 of 4 points - 1 at home and 2 on the road. They extended their lead on STU to 6pts for the last playoff spot.
(Sat)#2 McG at Nipissing (only game for each team this weekend). A win for Nipissing and a probable win for UQTR over RMC could result in a 3-way tie for 1st in OUA-East McGill has two games in-hand. Actually two games for McG last weekend (missed that as well) and they won both. They have a 2pt lead on UQTR (now #10)
(Sat/Sun) #5 ALB at Regina. Regina is at home and could get the split. Regina made it interesting in the second game, but lost in overtime. It's tight in the CW with the top four teams within 4 pts. 4th place CAL has it tough this week as it's their bye-week
The UNB/STU game could have been a big upset, but the VReds stormed back from 0-3, after two periods, to win 5-3 thanks to 3 straight shorties to start the 3rd period.

X's win over ACD, in ACD, is a bit of an upset. Could X be back on track?

UPEI did UNB a favour and took a game from UdeM in Moncton and X
's win over ACD keeps them (ACD) 2pts behind instead of a tie for first.

CW is too close to call. Need to see some weekends with top teams going head-2-head.

OUA-East and West are settling in with 3-4 top teams each, but no one is a run-away.

Head-2-Head this week

AUS
none

OUA
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CW
#3 ALB @ #9 Man - not a must win, but a big series for MAN at home as they could take over 1st if they win both games. A likely series sweep from USK over Regina could see both teams ahead of ALB.

Possible Upsets/Games to Watch
#15 SMU at #7 ACD - a win for SMU could get them into a T2 with Acadai (depending on UdeM/UPEI
#5 UdeM at #12 UPEI - a win for UPEI could get them into a T3 with UdeM
#10 UQTR at Nipissing - Nipissing needs to win this (at home) to make-up some distance as McG will certainly win over RMC and hope for a CON win over OTT.
#13 WAT at #4 UWO - a win for the visitors would tighten the standings. UWO will likely get 2pts in their last game on Sat. vs Guelph

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Dec. 6 CIS Top 10 - Last before Xmas Break

Dec. 6 CIS Top 10 - Last poll before Xmas Break

regular season record) / votes (first-place votes) / (previous rankings)


1. UNB (11-2-1) / 166 pts (14) / (1)
2. McGill (13-1-2) / 147 (3) / (2)
3. Western Ontario (13-1-2) / 122 / (4)
4. Saskatchewan (11-2-2) / 107 / (6)
5. Alberta (11-3-2) / 106 / (3)
6. Moncton (10-4-0) / 81 / (5)
7. Lakehead (13-3-0) / 73 / (8)
8. Saint Mary’s (10-5-1) / 41 / (NR)
9. Manitoba (10-4-2) / 38 / (9)
10. UQTR (13-5-1) / 21 / (10)

Other teams receiving votes: Acadia (18), Ottawa (8), Waterloo (7).

Movers: Western cracks Top 3. Alberta falls to 5th. Sask up to 4th. Moncton slides one spot while Lakehead moves up one spot. SMU reappears on the list in 8th. Acadia slides off the chart.

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CIS MENíS HOCKEY TOP 10 (#10)

Voting is based on a 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis, with a 1st place vote worth 10 points. The CIS Menís Ice Hockey Top Ten Committee is made up of media members from across Canada.

(regular season record) / votes (first-place votes) / (previous rankings)
1. UNB (13-3-2) / 160 pts (9) / (1)
2. McGill (16-2-2) / 146 (6) / (2)
3. Saskatchewan (15-3-2) / 132 (2) / (5)
4. Western Ontario (16-2-2) / 117 / (3)
5. Alberta (13-5-2) / 85 / (4)
6. Acadia (12-6-1) / 73 / (8)
7. Moncton (12-6-0) / 53 / (6)
8. Lakehead (16-4-0) / 49 / (7)
9. Manitoba (12-4-2) / 48 / (9)
10. Saint Maryís (12-7-1) / 41 / (NR)

Other teams receiving votes: UQTR (24).

Movers: In the most anticipated series of the past week, in Saskatoon, the No. 3 Huskies beat the No. 5 Golden Bears 5-2 and 5-4. Saskatchewan captain Kyle Ross was spectacular with four goals and one assist, including a hat trick in Game 2 on Saturday.

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