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11-17-2011, 10:54 AM
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So what do the Hawk's do with this extra cap space?

Cap space is at 7 million-ish i think. Blockbuster deal, Frolik-esque deal, or Nothing?

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get Gomez.

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Sit on it until the trade deadline is very close and the weak teams have made their intentions known. DON"T LOOK AT ANY SOFT PLAYERS NO MATTER HOW TALENTED.

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This just has shane doan written all over it


Sharp-Toews-Doan
Carcillo-Kane-Hossa
Smith-Bolland-Frolik
Brunnette-Kruger-Mayers


Stalberg Bickell???

Too many good players

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The Hawks will have their choice of anyone remotely available with this much space and this deep of a prospect pool. What a great time to be a Hawks fan, completely opposite circumstances of the 09-10 year. It just keeps getting better. I still can't believe all of this stuff is happening with the freakin' Blackhawks, best organization in the league top to bottom.

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11-17-2011, 11:47 AM
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Now the question is Bowman the best GM in the league?

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Now the question is Bowman the best GM in the league?
We'll discuss that after the trade deadline, but it looks really good for him right now.

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11-17-2011, 11:59 AM
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Now the question is Bowman the best GM in the league?
Let him win a cup first. The cup 2 years ago was 99% Dale's team. Now I think he has his own stamp, win or lose. It's looking good

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Let him win a cup first. The cup 2 years ago was 99% Dale's team. Now I think he has his own stamp, win or lose. It's looking good

Mike Smith and Bowman had significant roles in that team too.

Keith
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Cap space is at 7 million-ish i think. Blockbuster deal, Frolik-esque deal, or Nothing?
Bring in Doan and Gleason, both UFAs after this year. Then in the offseason, let them go. Trade Hammer, and bring in R. Suter. Ok, the second half might be dreaming, but could you imagine Keith-Seabrook followed by Leddy-Suter?

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Mike Smith and Bowman had significant roles in that team too.

Keith
Seabrook
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Burish
Hossa
Kopecky
Madden
Mike Smith yes, Bowman no. Hossa and Kopecky were signed by Tallon. We can argue about whether they were really Bowman signings, but then you'd have to at the same time give Tallon credit for draft picks made while he was an assistant. Either way Dale deserves the most credit and it's not even close.

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Not another Tallon/Bowman thread. Bowman has done far more good than bad since he's been here, and we'll leave it at that.

I'd like another defenseman to pair with Monty and a top six forward.

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get Gomez.
L O L.

Blockbuster deal for Chris Stewart.

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I have no idea, but since I'm feeling like a Debby Downer

I guarantee you that everything the Hawks have done with both Olesz and Huet is going to come up during the CBA talks this summer.

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Why would it? The players are still getting payed and that's what the NHLPA wants. Small market teams might scoff at it, yet they're not the ones to worry about.

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I have no idea, but since I'm feeling like a Debby Downer

I guarantee you that everything the Hawks have done with both Olesz and Huet is going to come up during the CBA talks this summer.

yea probably, but it shouldn't be that big of a deal because all it really accomplishes is letting the wealthier teams give out horrid contracts and not get destroyed by them. Players probably aren't opposed to it, just the teams who try to barely make the cap floor.

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I've been pining for a 4th line center but Kruger is actually filling that role pretty well. Either a star top 6 player or two high end role players (2nd/3rd line types).

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I have no idea, but since I'm feeling like a Debby Downer

I guarantee you that everything the Hawks have done with both Olesz and Huet is going to come up during the CBA talks this summer.
The NHLPA will look it as two of it's members collecting millions of dollars while not playing in the NHL, creating more jobs for prospective members.

It's members are getting paid. The NHLPA loves big market teams that spend over the cap in actual dollars. Teams like the Islanders are what they'll look at if anything.

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yea probably, but it shouldn't be that big of a deal because all it really accomplishes is letting the wealthier teams give out horrid contracts and not get destroyed by them. Players probably aren't opposed to it, just the teams who try to barely make the cap floor.
This is a bit off topic, but this line of conversation brings up a question I've been thinking about lately. A couple of years ago, it was my understanding that, in addition to being in cap-hell, the Blackhawks were hemorrhaging money. Does anyone know what sort of financial position the organization is in?

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This is a bit off topic, but this line of conversation brings up a question I've been thinking about lately. A couple of years ago, it was my understanding that, in addition to being in cap-hell, the Blackhawks were hemorrhaging money. Does anyone know what sort of financial position the organization is in?
Wirtz Corp. is thriving, always will be as long as people like to drink. As for how the Blackhawks "books" look, it really doesn't matter, especially if they are paying yet another player to go away, but I'd imagine they are doing well this year because they raised prices on tickets and concessions quite a bit.

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This is a bit off topic, but this line of conversation brings up a question I've been thinking about lately. A couple of years ago, it was my understanding that, in addition to being in cap-hell, the Blackhawks were hemorrhaging money. Does anyone know what sort of financial position the organization is in?
I thought the team was still technically *losing* money because of the loans Wirtz Corp had given to keep the team afloat when Rocky first took over are still being paid off. So the team is making money, but its still going to take a few years to pay back the loans from Wirtz Corp. I am trying to find the link, but I remember reading something along those lines.

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I thought the team was still technically *losing* money because of the loans Wirtz Corp had given to keep the team afloat when Rocky first took over are still being paid off. So the team is making money, but its still going to take a few years to pay back the loans from Wirtz Corp. I am trying to find the link, but I remember reading something along those lines.
Its an accounting trick. Wirtz owns 50% of the United Center. The Hawks are paying Wirtz to use the building so while its showing a liability to the Hawks, its not showing that the money is going directly back into Wirtz's own pocket.

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I thought the team was still technically *losing* money because of the loans Wirtz Corp had given to keep the team afloat when Rocky first took over are still being paid off. So the team is making money, but its still going to take a few years to pay back the loans from Wirtz Corp. I am trying to find the link, but I remember reading something along those lines.
It was total ********. If the Blackhawks were losing money, Wirtz would have sold the team. The books show them losing money, because the Blackhawks are paying rent to Wirtz corp. It doesn't take into account parking and concession money.

The Blackhawks have NEVER been in the red. Ever.

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It was total ********. If the Blackhawks were losing money, Wirtz would have sold the team. The books show them losing money, because the Blackhawks are paying rent to Wirtz corp. It doesn't take into account parking and concession money.

The Blackhawks have NEVER been in the red. Ever.
Maybe when there were 8,000 a night but even then, the team payroll was pretty low so they could have made money.

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