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Injury Talk 2.0: Markov out 3+ weeks (minor surgery) Campoli & Spacek practicing

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Gomez - lower body injury - didn't practice Nov. 24
Spacek - undisclosed - day-to-day - practiced w/team Nov. 29
Markov - knee - will rejoin team in L.A. - out for Saturday
White - sports hernia surgery - won't be back until after Christmas per Martin (Nov. 9)
Campoli - hamstring/tendon - practiced w/team Nov. 29

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Dec. 2
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Andrei Markov voulait jouer lors de ce voyage. C'est donc dire que les nouvelles sont mauvaises. D'autres complications.

[Markov wanted to play on this road trip. Which means the news isn't good. More complications.]
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=381751

Seeing a doctor, I hope not a setback and just want him to be 100%. [re: Markov]
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Martin McGuire reports Markov can not pivot to one side and won't practice 5 more days. I showed this in my CTV Tuesday report. #habs
http://twitter.com/#!/BrianWildeCTV/...24520823812098
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Selon toute vraisemblance, Markov va revenir au jeu demain contre les Ducks. Il forme un duo avec Emelin alors que Weber est sur le 4e trio.

OMG OMG OMG
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Jaroslav Spacek, qui a raté les sept derniers matchs du Canadien, a repris l’entraînement avec ses coéquipiers.

Spacek complétait un duo avec Chris Campoli qui se remet aussi d’une blessure. Le défenseur tchèque de 37 ans s'est blessé le 14 novembre face aux Sabres de Buffalo.

[Spacek, who missed the last 7 games, returned to practice with his teammates. Spacek played on a pairing with Campoli, who is also coming back from an injury]
Nov. 24
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L'attaquant Scott Gomez n'a pas participé à l'entraînement du Canadien, vendredi à Philadelphie. ******/7EePj
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#habs late tweeting this. Markov and Kostitsyn will make the trip. Kostitsyn will start skating with the team tomorrow. No timeline for any1

That was from yesterday.
Nov. 18
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The club also said Friday that veteran blueline Hal Gill will not be in the lineup on Saturday against the New York Rangers as he was hospitalized on Thursday for an infected cut.
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Give ‘em Hal: After seeing their blue line leader conspicuously absent from the Canadiens lineup for last two games, hospitalized with an infection to a cut on his leg, the Habs were all happy to see (and hear) Hal Gill back in the fold Friday morning.
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#Habs Gill had infection from a cut. Forget the flu
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Another update.

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According to Jacques Martin, Andrei Markov shouldn't be back before the trip in California.
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Précision : Hal Gill est hospitalisé depuis trois jours en raison d'une infection ou d'un virus.

RDS is now reporting that Gill has been hospitalized for the past three days.

Edit: Damnit Fel!


Nov. 16
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Le nom d'Andrei Kostitsyn a été placé sur la liste des blessés du Canadien.

[Andrei Kostitsyn has been placed on injured reserve by the Canadiens]

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H. Gill et J. Spacek rateront les deux prochains matchs du Canadien. M. Cammalleri sera en uniforme mercredi.

Gill and Spacek to miss the Canadiens' next 2 games. Cammalleri will play Wednesday.
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Gill, Kostitsyn, Engqvist and Spacek are not at practice.

From Habs Twitter.

That means Cammy is back skating.
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#Habs Cammalleri is on practice ice
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No surprise but no set date for Markov to return when talking to the media today.
AS per Habs twit feed
Nov. 14

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#canadiens Hall Gill est malade. Ne jouera pas ce soir. Sick and he won't play tonight.

MAGodin Marc Antoine Godin
Andrei Markov skating with his teammates this morning! Granted, he's wearing a jersey of a different colour, but still...

renhockey Renaud P Lavoie
#canadiens Hal Gill est absent ce matin. Not at morning skate.

CanadiensMTL Montreal Canadiens
Cammalleri y est également, mais Kostitsyn n'est pas de l'entraînement. /Cammalleri also practicing, but no Kostitsyn.

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#canadiens Andrei Kostitsyn (aine) absent. Not at morning skate. Groin.
Nov. 11
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#canadiens Scott Gomez de retour demain. Cammalleri on vera demain. Andrei Kostitsyn out. Peter Budaj le gardien.

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P. Budaj sera le gardien du CH contre Nashville. S. Gomez effectuera un retour au jeu. Kostitsyn sera absent. ******/7qGH7
Nov. 10
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Cammalleri left practice shortly after getting on the ice. Suffering from a hamstring injury.
Kostitsyn did not practice and is still suffering from a lower body injury.
Gomez will miss tonight's game but is a good bet to play Saturday vs. NSH.
Markov practiced under the supervision of trainers and coaches, but still has some ways to go. He didn't look too comfortable in a one-on-one drill with Scott Gomez.


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White won't be back before christmas?! Holy ****, I never saw that comment anywhere before right now. Man I miss that guy, anything to get Darche out of the line-up..

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Yeah, Darche hasn't been... good this year. I gave him crap last season, but he'd find ways to be productive. He's not doing that this season.

White will be nice to have back in the lineup.

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any updates on white?

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This kid really can't catch a break. I really wanted to see what he could do with a full season of games.

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I totally forgot Gill and Kostitsyn were on this team.

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It's funny here sometimes...it just seems like you're not allowed expressing yourself against Markov yet many booed Patrick Roy out of town and he helped (pro-Roy or not) our Habs get 2 Cups ('86 and '93) and get to 1 Cup Finals ('89). The attitude here is ''it's ok to bash Gomez 24hrs a day but leave Markov alone since he's the best!!'' (totally disagree). Best? #1 at being the most injury prone Habs dman and disppointing patient/loyal Hab fans? Yes. He's the best at that.

IF we ever win a Cup it'll be because of Price, Subban, Gorges, Plekanec's two-way play (not injury prone like Markov), and we can't forget Halak's performance as well in the past, and many more, etc... I've never seen any guts and heart from Markov in playoffs, never. So why are we waiting for him? (false hope? and I hope I'm wrong 'cause we're stuck with Markov's salary for another 2 1/2 seasons).

Markov did not sleep with my wife/girlfriend and he did not kick my dog/cat/hamster/chipmunk,etc...just expressing myself since I believe we're not getting anything from Markov. Anyways...he's too busy collecting his paychecks and counting his $$$$ every week to sleep with anyone's wife or kick anyone's dog.

''Markov is so useful to our Habs'': how can he be useful when it's been 3 seasons that he is not helping our Habs?! Useful?! Useless.

''Not your $$$$, insurance covers most of it'' (none of us are really sure of how much insurance covers?): Hab fans are paying Markov's salary (in one way or another) with ticket sales, beer prices, jersey sales, etc... No Hab fans spending lots of $$$$$$$ = no salary for Markov. 21,273 fans every game have the right to see Markov instead of having to hear Markov say to the media ''next question, next question''.

''No one remembers how great Markov is and how useful he is to our Habs...you people forget,etc,etc'': He is not useful since he's always injured so he's actually useless, and now I believe he's approaching damaged goods territory (I want to be wrong). And I do remember him very well...cerebral style (poor man's version of Lidstrom except Lidstrom is an iron-man compared to ''FRAGILE'' Markov) and one of the best outlet passes in the NHL and great for the PP (obviously), but with a VERY VERY injury prone body (has never learned how to get ready for bodychecks the way Subban and Gorges can... Markov is way too easy a target for injuries (doesn't know how to protect himself and never learned how to...like a sitting duck out there...this is part of why I dislike him). Last but not least, I question his heart in... playoffs. (in a huge way...never saw results from him in playoffs...never).

Markov should retire (not collect the $5,75mil/year anymore...just fooling management and us Hab fans) and we can move on and find a solid top 3-4 dman who is not known for being injury prone delicate/fragile and that doesn't know how to prepare for taking bodychecks or avoiding them).

Patience: I have lots of patience and optimism towards all or most Hab players + prospects (incl. Gomez, ex-Bouillon), but with Markov...I feel like we're just getting scammed by him. Play (and play well especially in playoffs) or retire so we can move on (no more false hope, no more 5,75mil/year tied down to damaged goods).

And patience? Markov lost patience when he was asked for the first time in such a long time about time-frame (you could tell he was pissed off and bitter and for one very normal question). And I'm supposed to have patience. He's the one collecting $5,75mil/year, not me. Give me his salary and I'll give you lots of of patience! and a large wide smile (unlike always-sad/depressed Markov).

Let's not do this every season (been 3 seasons now)...before next season Markov has to be fair to our Habs and retire (play and play well and not just 10-20 games to get re-injured AGAIN and AGAIN or...RETIRE...stop collecting $$$$ from the Habs organization while giving nothing back...).

I hope I'm wrong about Markov being here for the money (entire body is damaged goods and never did anything for our Habs in playoffs...he's a sitting duck out there, imo).

Go Markov Go (prove some Hab fans wrong about your true desire and fragile body...not even sure if he cares about Hab fans the way Gorges does).


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White won't be back before christmas?! Holy ****, I never saw that comment anywhere before right now. Man I miss that guy, anything to get Darche out of the line-up..
Really miss Ryan ''Old-School'' White...looking forward to seeing him back, especially when we play teams that like to bully others (Boston). White is a true warrior in an old-school way (for me he's sort of a small mix of Mike Keane and Nilan ; and please keep your pants on 'cause I didn't write that he's exactly like Keane or Nilan).


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Roy wasn't booed out of town. An idiot general manager and a bad coach made Roy demand a trade.

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Roy wasn't booed out of town. An idiot general manager and a bad coach made Roy demand a trade.
I stand (sit) corrected, but...he was booed (and not just once). I've never booed Price and never came close to booing Roy. If you forced me to boo some players and GMs and coaches it would have been Theodore, Ribeiro and Houle/Tremblay. For the record...I've never booed a Hab player or coach at the Forum or Bell Centre. And many will say that Roy wasn't forced out of town but he definitely hated Tremblay (I agreed with Roy back then and still do). It was a huge contrast for Roy...going from well-liked/well-respected coach Jacques Demers ('93 Cup) to a hard-headed/hot-head clown called Tremblay.
No Tremblay as coach = maybe another Cup between '95 and 2001 for our Habs...maybe (since Roy would probably have stayed).
Coach Tremblay = no Cup for sure for our Habs.

Houle and Tremblay...I hope that it never gets worse than that (what a *bad word* joke that was). The day those two clowns were hired I was sick to my stomach (couldn't believe those two were gonna be in charge of our Habs).

I'd take 2 Gaineys, Gauthiers, coach Martins OVER one more Houle/Tremblay era (era? more like a very long nightmare filled with lots of pain and vomit). I'm still happy (to this day) that the Houle/Tremblay nightmare is over.
I'm a fan of Gainey, Gauthier (Eller+ Schultz for Halak!) and I'm ok/good with coach Martin (love him compared to ex-coach Tremblay).

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Back to injury talk!:
Campoli...skated alone Nov.8 and no news ever since? (curious). Can't wait to see Campoli - Gorges.


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It's funny here sometimes...it just seems like you're not allowed expressing yourself against Markov yet many booed Patrick Roy out of town and he helped (pro-Roy or not) our Habs get 2 Cups ('86 and '93) and get to 1 Cup Finals ('89). The attitude here is ''it's ok to bash Gomez 24hrs a day but leave Markov alone since he's the best!!'' (totally disagree). Best? #1 at being the most injury prone Habs dman and disppointing patient/loyal Hab fans? Yes. He's the best at that.

IF we ever win a Cup it'll be because of Price, Subban, Gorges, Plekanec's two-way play (not injury prone like Markov), and we can't forget Halak's performance as well in the past, and many more, etc... I've never seen any guts and heart from Markov in playoffs, never. So why are we waiting for him? (false hope? and I hope I'm wrong 'cause we're stuck with Markov's salary for another 2 1/2 seasons).

Markov did not sleep with my wife/girlfriend and he did not kick my dog/cat/hamster/chipmunk,etc...just expressing myself since I believe we're not getting anything from Markov. Anyways...he's too busy collecting his paychecks and counting his $$$$ every week to sleep with anyone's wife or kick anyone's dog.

''Markov is so useful to our Habs'': how can he be useful when it's been 3 seasons that he is not helping our Habs?! Useful?! Useless.

''Not your $$$$, insurance covers most of it'' (none of us are really sure of how much insurance covers?): Hab fans are paying Markov's salary (in one way or another) with ticket sales, beer prices, jersey sales, etc... No Hab fans spending lots of $$$$$$$ = no salary for Markov. 21,273 fans every game have the right to see Markov instead of having to hear Markov say to the media ''next question, next question''.

''No one remembers how great Markov is and how useful he is to our Habs...you people forget,etc,etc'': He is not useful since he's always injured so he's actually useless, and now I believe he's approaching damaged goods territory (I want to be wrong). And I do remember him very well...cerebral style (poor man's version of Lidstrom except Lidstrom is an iron-man compared to ''FRAGILE'' Markov) and one of the best outlet passes in the NHL and great for the PP (obviously), but with a VERY VERY injury prone body (has never learned how to get ready for bodychecks the way Subban and Gorges can... Markov is way too easy a target for injuries (doesn't know how to protect himself and never learned how to...like a sitting duck out there...this is part of why I dislike him). Last but not least, I question his heart in... playoffs. (in a huge way...never saw results from him in playoffs...never).

Markov should retire (not collect the $5,75mil/year anymore...just fooling management and us Hab fans) and we can move on and find a solid top 3-4 dman who is not known for being injury prone delicate/fragile and that doesn't know how to prepare for taking bodychecks or avoiding them).

Patience: I have lots of patience and optimism towards all or most Hab players + prospects (incl. Gomez, ex-Bouillon), but with Markov...I feel like we're just getting scammed by him. Play (and play well especially in playoffs) or retire so we can move on (no more false hope, no more 5,75mil/year tied down to damaged goods).

And patience? Markov lost patience when he was asked for the first time in such a long time about time-frame (you could tell he was pissed off and bitter and for one very normal question). And I'm supposed to have patience. He's the one collecting $5,75mil/year, not me. Give me his salary and I'll give you lots of of patience! and a large wide smile (unlike always-sad/depressed Markov).

Let's not do this every season (been 3 seasons now)...before next season Markov has to be fair to our Habs and retire (play and play well and not just 10-20 games to get re-injured AGAIN and AGAIN or...RETIRE...stop collecting $$$$ from the Habs organization while giving nothing back...).

I hope I'm wrong about Markov being here for the money (entire body is damaged goods and never did anything for our Habs in playoffs...he's a sitting duck out there, imo).

Go Markov Go (prove some Hab fans wrong about your true desire and fragile body...not even sure if he cares about Hab fans the way Gorges does).
how do you really feel about markov's contract?

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Mr. Hab are you needing money?

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Are you a loan shark?! (what are your interest rates?!).
To answer your question...I don't need money but thanks for asking (so kind of you!).

Hamrlik as a Hab was making $5,5mil/year for 5 seasons, no? I'm sure you didn't hear me complain once even though many of us .Hab fans agreed that was a bit too much $$ but he was UFA at the time and that's the price sometimes (overpay), and/but...he was a minute cruncher for us and was not injury prone. He helped us a lot, imo. Would have taken him for another year (not two though, but maybe I'd take two knowing that Markov is damaged goods).

Any Hab dman or forward making lots of $$$ and being injured for 3 seasons would piss me off...it's normal since it is affecting our Habs. ss he has already helped us to win a Cup one of the MVPs and has just run into lots of bad luck but
Gomez would have more pts with a Markov, our PP would be better, Gorges and Subban would be getting more rest and have less pressure (so less prone to injuries),etc,etc...


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I am sorry but this remark is very xenophobe. Imagine if someone were to mention how St-Denis talks during his english interviews or Weber when he speaks english. Man these kind of things get me really upset. OK we get it you don't like Markov, so you figure you will make him look worse beacuse he can't speak english very well. By the way he is a CANADIAN citizen just like you.

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let it go man, let it go....

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I am sorry but this remark is very xenophobe. Imagine if someone were to mention how St-Denis talks during his english interviews or Weber when he speaks english. Man these kind of things get me really upset. OK we get it you don't like Markov, so you figure you will make him look worse beacuse he can't speak english very well. By the way he is a CANADIAN citizen just like you.

/Rant
I'll delete it before others write the same thing. I'm not a xenophobe, I'm perfect just like everyone else (never had a racist thought in my life, never... just like everyone else here I'm perfect). If it makes you feel better I have some Eastern European blood in me!! I'm born in Montreal, speak fluent english and french...I have friends that are half french or english, full french/english, perfectly bilingual,etc, friends of many different nationalities... I wasn't going there (xenophobia)...went there by mistake (and since I'm not a professional comedian it's a faux pas). I'll remove that part before I get suspended or placed in an electric chair.

I wasn't trying to make Markov look worse by quoting a fictional sentence of his accent...it was all a huge accident, not intentional. As long as they players can do what they're paid to do...help our Habs (or put effort) I'm a happy Hab fan. Proof: I don't bash Gomez...I'm remaining patient and positive. Why? He's there and I'm sure he's trying...and he does show up for playoffs and plays well. We're better with him (ex: more options at center ; lots of playoff experience).


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I'll delete it before others write the same thing. I'm not a xenophobe, I'm perfect just like everyone else (never had a racist thought in my life, never... just like everyone else here I'm perfect). If it makes you feel better I have some Eastern European blood in me!! (I'm born in Montreal, speak perfect (or sort of!) english and french...I have friends that are half french or english, full french/english, perfectly bilingual,etc, and all kinds of nationalities... I wasn't going there (xenophobia)...went there by accident (and since I'm not a professional comedian it's a faux pas). I'll remove that part before I get suspended or placed in an electric chair.

I wasn't trying to make Markov look worse by quoting a fictional sentence of his accent...it was all a huge accident, not intentional. As long as they players can do what they're paid to do...help our Habs I'm a happy Hab fan. Proof: I don't bash Gomez...I'm remainin patient and positive. Why? He's there and I'm sure he's trying...and he does show up for playoffs and plays well.

Wow! gotta really watch what I write now!! so many politically correct policemen out here!! (I'm such a trouble maker all of a sudden! I feel like Matt Dillon's character in that ''greaser'' movie...forget the title).

You know what's funny?! You can call Plekanec or Eller a gangster out here but you can't quote a Russian player by trying to add a Russian accent. I'll be careful from now on. Here you go...''Markov is such a gangster who likes to listen to gangster rap...isn't that cool, man!'' (there for all those who like to compare Eller and Plekanec to gangsters! now Markov is a gangster too, so rad or whatever teenagers say today).
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Gill Back on wednesday as per RDS.

No link just saw it a few mins ago. Not a report or anything it was just at the bottom of their screen in the news feed.

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No link just saw it a few mins ago. Not a report or anything it was just at the bottom of their screen in the news feed.
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No link just saw it a few mins ago. Not a report or anything it was just at the bottom of their screen in the news feed.
Good news, were so depleted on D Gill is an upgrade. Specially those kind of infections can end a career at his age.

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''Not your $$$$, insurance covers most of it'' (none of us are really sure of how much insurance covers?): Hab fans are paying Markov's salary (in one way or another) with ticket sales, beer prices, jersey sales, etc... No Hab fans spending lots of $$$$$$$ = no salary for Markov. 21,273 fans every game have the right to see Markov instead of having to hear Markov say to the media ''next question, next question''.
The habs are offering a show. If you are not satisfied, don't come back. You are paying to see a hockey game. you are not paying your ticket to see Markov. Its not written on your ticket.


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he's too busy collecting his paychecks
he also went to florida for the beaches?


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(not collect the $5,75mil/year anymore...just fooling management and us Hab fans)
Its the management who gave him the money. So he fooled the doctors also and the MRI?


how did he get injured the first time? major skate slash by Carey Price.
2nd time, injured in the playoffs by Matt Cooke
3rd time by Eric Staal

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Markov should retire (not collect the $5,75mil/year anymore...just fooling management and us Hab fans)
If management was "fooled" by Markov, it's because they allowed themselves to be fooled. Nobody who has paid attention the last couple of years should be surprised by this lengthy recovery. If the Markov contract cripples the Habs for the next few years, the player himself is the last person I'd blame. I'm sure Markov would rather be playing, just as I'm sure Gomez would rather be a 90 point scorer. IMO it is a petty and narrow view to blame players for managerial decisions.

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Any word on Spacek? (I've copied-and-pasted that question so many times I've lost count)

Gill back Wednesday? Hmmm... I wonder if he'll surprise us two days earlier.

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Markov (knee) could be cleared for contact some time this week, Marc Antoine Godin of La Presse reports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_yl...rkovneeouldbel

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