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11-04-2011, 06:40 PM
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Speaking of Lucic, who would win in a fight vs him and Clowe? I think Clowe would probably take it, though it would be a dandy to watch.

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11-05-2011, 11:59 AM
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Speaking of Lucic, who would win in a fight vs him and Clowe? I think Clowe would probably take it, though it would be a dandy to watch.
i've always wanted to see them fight, in my opinion they are the two best skilled fighters in the league.

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great fight, i love how the Bruins have two skilled guys who can go with guys like smith, big part of their identity

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i think it's an even fight (Clowe/Lucic). Clowe's a little less rusty though.

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11-05-2011, 01:19 PM
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Clowe is a heavy-weight in terms of his size, however he is not a heavy-weight considering that he is not an "enforcer". He is one of the best non-"enforcer" fighters in the game.

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Wayne Simmonds is like 180 pounds? And can kick most players butt

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Clowe is a heavy-weight in terms of his size, however he is not a heavy-weight considering that he is not an "enforcer". He is one of the best non-"enforcer" fighters in the game.
I do agree with that statement. It's weird that a non-enforcer is such as good fighter. Its an oddity.

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11-09-2011, 08:42 AM
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I do agree with that statement. It's weird that a non-enforcer is such as good fighter. Its an oddity.
Clowe is a hockey player who fights, and happens to know how to and I think has a solid chin...

I think he's an excellent all around player, who brings grit and energy to the game... a good ole Canadian boy
He's a big strong body who can pass, shoot, check both ways, and he can fight


Souray? Is is skills player, was/maybe is a hard shooting all-star, a pretty boy who can not just fight, but flat out **** people up.... damned guy is a stud, and I'm jelous of him.

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11-09-2011, 12:40 PM
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(This comedy interlude brought to you by the number 2. Now back to the serious discussion.)

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11-09-2011, 01:49 PM
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Nah, Mike Brown is the world champion of "hit you before your gloves are off and fall before you can retaliate".
lol... good joke though

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Best non-heavyweight based on size and weight is Chris Neil. Best fighters among players who are not enforcers are Zdeno Chara, Ryane Clowe and Milan Lucic. Has anyone seen Lucic lose a fight decisively? I can't recall one but if he has I'd be interested in seeing it.

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11-17-2011, 04:24 PM
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11-17-2011, 05:01 PM
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Best non-heavyweight based on size and weight is Chris Neil. Best fighters among players who are not enforcers are Zdeno Chara, Ryane Clowe and Milan Lucic. Has anyone seen Lucic lose a fight decisively? I can't recall one but if he has I'd be interested in seeing it.
Lucic's only big loss was against Erskine WHEN ERSKINE DID NOT HAVE HIS JERSEY TIED DOWN. It was pretty lame, and he didn't even get booted from the game even though it meant Lucic was at a severe disadvantage in the fight. He didn't reengage with Orr in a fight they had too and people mock him for it, but it is the same as a guy just tying up at the end which happens most of the time. I don't consider him a top10 fighter... makes sense as he doesn't do it much.... but Lucic and Clowe are at the top of the list of forwards that can both play AND fight heavies.

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11-17-2011, 06:52 PM
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On a serious note, yes, clowe is definitely a good fighter
Emm, Souray is definitely a good fighter. I don't remember ever seeing him lose a fight. If you can find a video of that, show me. He's taken some pretty good fighters on and beaten them quite handily.

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11-17-2011, 09:26 PM
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Lucic and Thornton 1 & 2 are the best fighters in NHL

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11-19-2011, 02:34 AM
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Weight has nothing to do with being a heavyweight.

Super Heavies - MacIntyre, McGrattan, Orr, Godard, Ivanans, Shelley, Hordichuk, Kassian, Carkner, Gillies, and King.
Heavyweights - Parros, Bissonnette, Rosehill, Boulton, Janssen, Westgarth, Thornton, Boll, and others.
Light Heavies - Rupp, Clowe, Jackman, Reaves, Neil, Engelland, and others.
Middleweights - Asham, Prust, McLeod, Brookbank, Clifford, and others.


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11-19-2011, 02:40 AM
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Lucic and Thornton 1 & 2 are the best fighters in NHL
Not even close. Mike Rupp dropped Thornton last year.

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11-19-2011, 11:25 AM
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Weight has nothing to do with being a heavyweight.

Super Heavies - MacIntyre, McGrattan, Orr, Godard, Ivanans, Shelley, Hordichuk, Kassian, Carkner, Gillies, and King.
Heavyweights - Parros, Bissonnette, Rosehill, Boulton, Janssen, Westgarth, Thornton, Boll, and others.
Light Heavies - Rupp, Clowe, Jackman, Reaves, Neil, Engelland, and others.
Middleweights - Asham, Prust, McLeod, Brookbank, Clifford, and others.
This is a really peculiar list to me. Hordichuk and Shelley in particular stick out as strange in the super heavy category. Ivanans, too, if you're not basing this on weight (in which case, Westgarth should be a superheavy). I don't know what would make Shelley or Hordichuk superheavyies but not Parros or Boulton.

Reaves doesn't belong in the light heavy category either.

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11-19-2011, 01:49 PM
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Shelly and Hordichuk both have the fight card to back up being a super heavy. Westgarth just doesn't have it to be a super heavy and you can move Reaves around where you would like.

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as a Shark fan, the first time I noticed how much of a beast Clowe was, was during an Anaheim SJ game. Anaheim was pretty much dominationg, and Shawn Thornton took a run at Marleau, and Clowe answered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85g9cXQPyM&feature=fvst
the game turned after that point
If anyone won that, and I'd call it a tie, it was Thornton...

that said, guys like Clowe, Lucic, Horton, etc are not guys you'd want to have to fight! Very powerful fighters.

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11-21-2011, 12:34 AM
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Clowe isn't getting Justice for his last fight in Dallas. Hockey fights has Barch winning at 62%. That is ridiculous.

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Clowe isn't getting Justice for his last fight in Dallas. Hockey fights has Barch winning at 62%. That is ridiculous.
Barch easily won that fight when he switched to lefts and dropped Clowe to the ice.

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11-21-2011, 09:47 AM
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Clowe isn't getting Justice for his last fight in Dallas. Hockey fights has Barch winning at 62%. That is ridiculous.
Your username makes you impervious to rational thinking. Clowe lost that fight without a doubt! I just can't believe he lost to Barch...

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11-21-2011, 09:59 AM
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Barch easily won that fight when he switched to lefts and dropped Clowe to the ice.
While I don't really have a problem with people saying Clowe lost that fight, he was not dropped to the ice from punches. He is clearly off balance and the tug on his jersey pulls him down. He pops right back up ready to keep fighting but the linesmen have stepped in by that point.

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Barch easily won that fight when he switched to lefts and dropped Clowe to the ice.
Obviously you were watching a different fight. Clowe landed more punches, but Barch finished stronger. Dropped? He lost his balance..I guess you didn't see him get right back up ready to fight again..


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Your username makes you impervious to rational thinking. Clowe lost that fight without a doubt! I just can't believe he lost to Barch...
Oh please, the fact that Barch is being said to have "dropped" Clowe and win that fight by a huge majority is ridiculous. I watched that fight, and it was close, very close. Clowe and Barch did not get hurt. Clowe landed more punches while Barch finished with a few himself while Clowe lost his balance. It was not "easily Barch" just like it isn't "easy Clowe", but i would give Clowe the edge because he connected with more and had more control.

btw, this was like a minute left in the game where Barch picked a fight with Clowe, who obviously is tired, where as Barch had 5 minutes of ice time that whole game.

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