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View Poll Results: Who would you trade for Kyle Turris?
Brendan Gallagher 1 3.57%
Nathan Beaulieu 0 0%
Lars Eller 1 3.57%
Alexander Avtsin & Michael Bournival 2 7.14%
Louis Leblanc & Yannick Weber 4 14.29%
Two first round picks 0 0%
One first round and two (or three) second round picks 0 0%
Nope! Ain't gonna do it. 20 71.43%
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11-19-2011, 04:04 PM
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I will just try some trade and see what you guys thinks about it...


Montreal
Blake Comeau

NY Islanders
Spacek
Weber

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Montreal
Jamie McBain

Carolina
Weber
3 round pick

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Montreal
Andy Sutton

Edmonton
Raphael Diaz
6 round pick

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Tim Jackman

Calgary
Blunden
4 round pick

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Stajan
Bouwmeester

Calgary
Gomez
Spacek
2 round pick

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11-20-2011, 07:35 AM
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What Would you Give up for Carter?

funny how we talk of this now, and the habs could have drafted him.

oh well,

i don't think the habs would talk on that long contract, just have a feeling,

but if they do, gone is leblanc, 1st rounder, if they give more, no good,

as that long contract has to account for something.

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11-20-2011, 07:37 AM
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Start with Eller.

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11-20-2011, 07:42 AM
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Less than other teams that would no doubt be bidding....

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11-20-2011, 07:48 AM
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Did this with a buddy last night:

Weber, Eller, Kristo, 1st

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11-20-2011, 07:53 AM
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Did this with a buddy last night:

Weber, Eller, Kristo, 1st
A little too much but I agree with you and Jee that if we are going to trade for Carter, we might as well get rid of Eller.

Either Weber & Eller and maybe a 3rd

Or

Weber, Eller & Kristo

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11-20-2011, 08:35 AM
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Did this with a buddy last night:

Weber, Eller, Kristo, 1st
I think that's just about right for somebody like Carter. Funny part about this for me is that the piece that would be the hardest to let go is, right now,Yannick Weber. He's been constantly evolving this year, and I'm starting to think that he has top 3 potential, but oh well, you gotta give to receive.

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11-20-2011, 11:45 AM
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Trade at the deadline:

if they are all healthy, Campoli for 2nd rounder?

About time we'd pick up picks instead of shipping them

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11-20-2011, 12:32 PM
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Rumour has it we (along with Nashville) are interested in Semin. I think it's bull. Especially Nashville. Trotz would blow a gasket if that float-a-holic gets a spot on his roster.

What would you give up? AK + 1st?

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11-20-2011, 12:58 PM
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Rumour has it we (along with Nashville) are interested in Semin. I think it's bull. Especially Nashville. Trotz would blow a gasket if that float-a-holic gets a spot on his roster.

What would you give up? AK + 1st?
Where is that rumor coming from?

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11-20-2011, 01:12 PM
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Where is that rumor coming from?
An unreliable source

I'm going along with it and added a proposal.

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I will just try some trade and see what you guys thinks about it...


Montreal
Blake Comeau

NY Islanders
Spacek
Weber
I like this one especially if/when Markov returns and Campoli regains his health. Comeau's value must be down a little right now but he would be another forward who would throw his weight around a bit.

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Andy Sutton

Edmonton
Raphael Diaz
6 round pick
Pass on this one.

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Bouwmeester

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Gomez
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2 round pick
Don't think it is realistic from the point of view of either team.

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11-20-2011, 04:47 PM
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Our prospect pool is quite shallow. Do you think we would be able to acquire any one of these guys...

- Jake Muzzin - D (Los Angeles)
Evgeny Kuznetsov - C (Washington)
- Vladimir Tarasenko - RW (St Louis)

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11-20-2011, 04:53 PM
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Our prospect pool is deep everywhere but Goaltending. We just don't have top end talent outside of our defense pool and maybe one of our RWers.

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11-20-2011, 09:14 PM
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Rumour has it we (along with Nashville) are interested in Semin. I think it's bull. Especially Nashville. Trotz would blow a gasket if that float-a-holic gets a spot on his roster.

What would you give up? AK + 1st?
and martin wouldn't?

tell you what i'd do: i take part of the ~7-mil that he's gonna command on the open market and use it to re-sign AK instead. then, i'd blow the rest on cocaine and hookers

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11-20-2011, 09:48 PM
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and martin wouldn't?

tell you what i'd do: i take part of the ~7-mil that he's gonna command on the open market and use it to re-sign AK instead. then, i'd blow the rest on cocaine and hookers
I see what you did there

Martin wouldn't bench him if he's the prized acquisition. And I completely agree. I don't want floppy-arms Semin and I'm for re-signing AK for around 4mil. I was just going along with this rumour.


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Our prospect pool is quite shallow. Do you think we would be able to acquire any one of these guys...

- Jake Muzzin - D (Los Angeles)
Evgeny Kuznetsov - C (Washington)
- Vladimir Tarasenko - RW (St Louis)
Muzzin is not worth trading for considering our D pool.
Kuz is untouchable for the Caps especially if Colorado's pick ends up low.
Tarasenko is a big part of the youth movement for St Louis. If anything it would be Schwartz but he'd be expensive too.

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11-20-2011, 11:19 PM
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I see what you did there

Martin wouldn't bench him if he's the prized acquisition. And I completely agree. I don't want floppy-arms Semin and I'm for re-signing AK for around 4mil. I was just going along with this rumour.
not that he would bench him, but martin doesn't tolerate floaters. PG so far has been wise to only sign players to perfectly fit the system and work ethics of the team.

if AK's supposed 'work ethics' issues rile people up on this board, can you imagine the kind of vitriol semin would get?

that said, maybe some time away from ovechicken could do wonders for him?

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11-22-2011, 04:04 AM
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time to trade cammalleri?

is very weak defensively, has seemed uninterested recently, and is probably one of our most valuable trading chip.

im pretty sure it would be a good move to trade him, for his sake, and ours...

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11-22-2011, 04:06 AM
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time to trade cammalleri?

is very weak defensively, has seemed uninterested recently, and is probably one of our most valuable trading chip.

im pretty sure it would be a good move to trade him, for his sake, and ours...
Cammalleri is not 'very weak defensively'. Further, he may seem uninterested, but are you taking into account that he's not entirely healthy?

Why would you want to trade Montreal's best pure goal scorer when goal scoring is a problem?

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11-22-2011, 04:35 AM
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Cammalleri is not 'very weak defensively'. Further, he may seem uninterested, but are you taking into account that he's not entirely healthy?

Why would you want to trade Montreal's best pure goal scorer when goal scoring is a problem?
well that's my fault. when i said "very weak defensively" i should have added 'this season'. i know he played/plays on the pk. it's probably just my perception, but he has seriously let me down this season... maybe it's the injury, maybe he's had enough with martin, maybe he's snake-bitten, who knows....

don't think it would be difficult to replace his 26 and 19 goals with a bigger player with comparable statistic that could fit the team better. besides the untouchables, along with plek and gomez () he has the highest value among our players. im pretty sure he's do better with another team under another system while we could pick up somebody that fills cammy's role and then some. like a straight sawp player for player kind of thing...

i won't be bothered if he stays or not. but it kinda struck me today how much he seemed 'not to care'. maybe it's just me


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Cammalleri for Jamie Benn or Patrick Sharp

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Cammalleri is not 'very weak defensively'. Further, he may seem uninterested, but are you taking into account that he's not entirely healthy?

Why would you want to trade Montreal's best pure goal scorer when goal scoring is a problem?
I don't quite understand why a lot of people defend Cammalleri to the bitter end.

Listen...he was my favourite UFA signing, probably ever, I was really pumped to have him. But since his injuries he seems afraid to go into the corners. Multiple times a game I see him take deliberate detours during a race for the puck, just so he doesn't get there first and have to take a hit.

Is he a pure sniper? Yes he is, but he isn't doing it that well either. Is he clutch in the playoffs? So far he is...

The fact is that we have one or two too many small forwards. Cammy likely has the best trade value to add a big goal scorer.

Cammalleri for Jeff Carter straight up, perhaps add a pick to make it happen. We would finally have a big center and like it or not, Carter scores just as many as Cammy, is better defensively and is pretty good in the playoffs as well.

Maybe it's not Carter, but something similar...

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well that's my fault. when i said "very weak defensively" i should have added 'this season'. i know he played/plays on the pk. it's probably just my perception, but he has seriously let me down this season... maybe it's the injury, maybe he's had enough with martin, maybe he's snake-bitten, who knows....

don't think it would be difficult to replace his 26 and 19 goals with a bigger player with comparable statistic that could fit the team better. besides the untouchables, along with plek and gomez () he has the highest value among our players. im pretty sure he's do better with another team under another system while we could pick up somebody that fills cammy's role and then some. like a straight sawp player for player kind of thing...

i won't be bothered if he stays or not. but it kinda struck me today how much he seemed 'not to care'. maybe it's just me
I think Cammalleri's still injured, frankly.

I also think he's a real battler and competitor.

Frankly, I'm not his biggest advocate: I find him to be soft along the boards, sometimes weak on the puck defensively, not all that fast and not necessarily the best puck possession guy. That said, I recognise some of these are my biases in what I prefer in a hockey player.

At the end of the day, I wouldn't want to sacrifice any of the goal scoring potential that Cammalleri brings. He's been clutch. And if the team were to trade him in a player swap, chances are that player coming back wouldn't have that same upside. They may also bring other baggage, like Carter's ultra-long contract. No, I don't think Cammalleri's a problem at all with this club and while I don't enjoy watching him play the game, I think he's a nice contributor and core player.

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I don't quite understand why a lot of people defend Cammalleri to the bitter end.
I don't. I'm not sure how one post that is against the notion of dealing Cammalleri constitutes defending him to the bitter end either.

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The fact is that we have one or two too many small forwards. Cammy likely has the best trade value to add a big goal scorer.

Cammalleri for Jeff Carter straight up, perhaps add a pick to make it happen. We would finally have a big center and like it or not, Carter scores just as many as Cammy, is better defensively and is pretty good in the playoffs as well.

Maybe it's not Carter, but something similar...
OK, so basically Carter is equally as good as Cammalleri in the goal scoring front, but he's bigger, faster, and better defensively, as well as younger. Sounds like a fair deal, then.

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11-22-2011, 11:24 AM
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you couldn't get carter for cammy. you'd have to throw in more pieces, most likely, another center not named gomez

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you couldn't get carter for cammy. you'd have to throw in more pieces, most likely, another center not named gomez
I would do DD+ Cammy for Carter.

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