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11-22-2011, 09:17 PM
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fair enough......it'll definitely be interesting to see what winds up happening once zajac returns

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11-22-2011, 09:19 PM
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Anyone think a line of Kovy-Elias-Sykora could work?

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Anyone think a line of Kovy-Elias-Sykora could work?
you cant break up the old man line right now.

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11-22-2011, 09:19 PM
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fair enough......it'll definitely be interesting to see what winds up happening once zajac returns
Yup. No matter what, the offense seems like it'll be fine. What is most exciting about Zajac coming back is his impact in the defensive zone, because that's where we need the help!

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11-22-2011, 09:23 PM
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you cant break up the old man line right now.
This is my thinking down the road when Zajac is back. Zubrus is a catalyst on any line and I think he and Henrique would be interchangable on at 1RW and 3C.

I think something like this in January could work:

Parise-Zajac-Henrique
Kovy-Elias-Sykora
Teddy-Zubrus-Clarkson

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11-22-2011, 09:24 PM
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Based on what? 8 Games under MacLean?

I think the three could work well together, especially in DeBoer's system.
Kovalchuk is not a RWer. It's time to quit putting him there.

Kovalchuk couldn't cycle if his life depended on it. It's a square peg in a round hole situation when put with zpar and zajac.


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11-22-2011, 09:28 PM
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Kovalchuk is not RWer. It's time to quit putting him there.

Kovalchuk couldn't cycle if his life depended on it. It's a square peg in a round hole situation when put with zpar and zajac.
Yeah. I am really not a fan of Kovy on the RW. I don't understand why they keep insisting on putting him there.

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Kovalchuk is not RWer. It's time to quit putting him there.

Kovalchuk couldn't cycle if his life depended on it. It's a square peg in a round hole situation when put with zpar and zajac.
i kinda feel this way too......think maybe you could put a guy like clarkson with them to work in the cycling game, while putting kovy on a line that puts less emphasis on that and more on crash and drive the net off the rush w/ shots. two different plans of attack to throw at the opposition.

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11-22-2011, 09:30 PM
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Kovalchuk is not RWer. It's time to quit putting him there.

Kovalchuk couldn't cycle if his life depended on it. It's a square peg in a round hole situation when put with zpar and zajac.
Kovalchuk shouldn't be the RWer on that line. Parise is the tiny grinder with the weak shot. He can play on either wing.

Kovalchuk can't cycle well but the hope is that he can be good enough so that the other two can set him up in the slot later on in the play. Or, they can be deadly on the rush with either one of the three leading the play and setting up one of the other two. They are all good scorers.

They need time though. They've never played together legitimately. A couple gamesd under J-Mac don't mean anything.

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11-22-2011, 09:39 PM
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You sign the guy to a 100 million dollar deal then want him to play a different position? C'mon, it's absurd. He's at home on the left, keep him there. He had one of his best years as a pro with todd white centering him Surely he can develop chemistry with Henrique.

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11-22-2011, 09:40 PM
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If we're against Kovy on that line, what about this?

Parise - Zajac - Zubrus
Kovy - Elias - Sykora
Tedenby - Henrique - Clarkson
Janssen - Carter - Palmieri

Mills rotates in when appropriate

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11-22-2011, 09:43 PM
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You sign the guy to a 100 million dollar deal then want him to play a different position? C'mon, it's absurd. He's at home on the left, keep him there. He had one of his best years as a pro with todd white centering him Surely he can develop chemistry with Henrique.
Did you see my post?

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11-22-2011, 09:45 PM
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If we're against Kovy on that line, what about this?

Parise - Zajac - Zubrus
Kovy - Elias - Sykora
Tedenby - Henrique - Clarkson
Janssen - Carter - Palmieri

Mills rotates in when appropriate
I'd be fine with that. The snooze line is absolutely dominant on the cycle and the third line would bring a lot of energy and skill. We may be asking a bit too much of elias defensively on that second line, but whatever..

And hey, I don't want you to think I was jumping all over you because of that. You're definitely right in a sense that we will certainly see parise-zajac-kovy when TZ is healthy. Maybe i'll look stupid and they'll flourish under PD. In theory you'd think parise and zajac working down low could create space for kovy's shot (if he uses the damn thing), but I think there are better options..

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11-22-2011, 09:51 PM
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If we're against Kovy on that line, what about this?

Parise - Zajac - Zubrus
Kovy - Elias - Sykora
Tedenby - Henrique - Clarkson
Janssen - Carter - Palmieri

Mills rotates in when appropriate
could be another possibility depending on if the elias line as of right now falters over time

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11-22-2011, 10:06 PM
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Parise - Zajac - Napalm
Kovy - Henrique - Clarkson
Zubrus - Elias - Sykora
Jansen - Carter - Tedenby


All top 3 lines get equal time. Switch Napalm and Tedenby as suited.

All top 3 lines have at least 2 players with existing chemistry.

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11-22-2011, 10:08 PM
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Based on what? 8 Games under MacLean?

I think the three could work well together, especially in DeBoer's system.
I honestly wouldn't be against trying it. But as long as Kovy gets the left side, and Zach gets the right.

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11-22-2011, 10:09 PM
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Parise - Zajac - Napalm
Kovy - Henrique - Clarkson
Zubrus - Elias - Sykora
Jansen - Carter - Tedenby


All top 3 lines get equal time. Switch Napalm and Tedenby as suited.

All top 3 lines have at least 2 players with existing chemistry.
Don't particularly like those lines.

Palmieri doesn't belong up with Parise and Zajac, and Clarkson and Kovy's styles are conflicting.

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11-22-2011, 10:16 PM
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we lost because i didn't post skate to throat

also kovy and parise just can't play together. i remember one play sticking out to me last night. kovy was being a good little boy and staying on the right side, then parise drifts over and kovy takes the first excuse he gets to bolt to the left side, parise follows him back there, and the rest of the shift they couldn't get away from each other.

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11-22-2011, 10:41 PM
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Parise and it really shouldn't even be a debate. Parise with TZ allows us to benefit by getting the best out of both players. They were born to play with eachother. You don't split up chemistry like that..
I'd be ok with reuniting the Wonder Twins, but DeBoer shouldn't be married to the idea if he discovers that Kovy is more effective with Zajac and Parise can play fine with Henrique.

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you cant break up the old man line right now.
They'll cool off eventually, and when they do, breaking them up is an option in order to get the big guns going.

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Kovalchuk is not a RWer. It's time to quit putting him there.

Kovalchuk couldn't cycle if his life depended on it. It's a square peg in a round hole situation when put with zpar and zajac.
I think Kovy is perfectly capable of playing RW, but the other reason you cite, the fact that he doesn't cycle well, is the reason I don't want him with Parise.

I think the Snooze line might need to be reunited when Zajac comes back.

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I'm pissed, and I'm nervous, and I have a 3 hour flight to Newark tomorrow, and I hate being nervous on a plane. I'm hoping my flight isn't delayed due to bad weather. Wanna get to the game early. The 2 easiest teams in the NHL or what should be the easiest is who we have the next 3 games. Something has gotta give. We need 3 in a row here. If we lose to Columbus something big needs to happen to restore my faith.

If we had lost with class to the Panthers I wouldn't have minded, and would be confident in beating Columbus, and the Isles. If we had played them toe to toe like Boston I wouldn't be upset. We didn't we blew the game!

We need to start Hedberg. Florida really took Marty to his limit, and pretty much every team is the last few games, and Boston took Hedberg to his also. Marty had a few iffy starts a couple weeks ago, but he was great last game. He was very good, but the rest of the team relied on him, and he like Hedberg carried us through as long as he could. He wasn't just making pad saves he was doing all he could to keep it out. Sprawling on the ground. He spent a lot of time with a lot of traffic, and on the ground. Not too much of that with Theodore last night as the Panthers did a good job keeping them straight.

This makes Marty look bad, and now we have to see blogs ''Martin Brodeur is my fantasy Goalie, but I'm switching to Quick, or Price, because he sucks this year''. Actually he was the best player out there against the Panthers in reality. I'm critical of him when I need to be, but can't say anything bad about him last night. If he wasn't on his game we should have lost 7 or 8 to 4. A lot of good saves early too before we even got a goal.

Can't say anything bad about Palmieri either he didn't play! Haha. Seriously Columbus is not hard to beat if we're a good team. 3 freebies this should be before we have another hard road trip.

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11-23-2011, 03:19 AM
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...and now we have to see blogs ''Martin Brodeur is my fantasy Goalie, but I'm switching to Quick, or Price, because he sucks this year''.
Worrying about two-cent bloggers posting about their asinine fantasy teams? Why?

Me, I guess I'm from a different time. Informed hockey people talking/writing about actual hockey teams and players (as opposed to stats) is all that matters.


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