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11-23-2011, 01:16 PM
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Well as long as you get what I was trying to say. It's your opinion of how things would have unfolded with Reimer in net for those games we took losses in, but there's no sense in debating it with you as there's really nothing to substantiate an argument based on 'what if's'. I don't mean that as a knock on your opinion at all. It's just one of those things where you can agree, disagree or not care but it's hard to form a legitimate argument to disprove.
Agreed. It's impossible to argue "what ifs", my original post was in response to a few posters that had stated our losses were primarily due to goaltending, and had Reimer not been injured, we would have a significantly better record.

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11-23-2011, 01:33 PM
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Toronto gives up an average of 31 shots per game. If you play 65 games, that's 2015 shots total. With a .911 you give up 179 goals. With a .905 you give up 191 goals. Over the course of your season that is a grand total of 12 goals or 1 extra goal for every 5.5 GP.

Yes, those numbers indeed are a lot closer than you think.
12 goals difference per year is a difference of anywhere between 5-10 slots in GAA ranking.

So no, those numbers aren't as close as you think.

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I used ten as a nice, simple, round number. As someone who likes to present stats, I would think you would understand that for them to be particularly relevant, you need to control the variables as much as possible. Unfortunately, Reimer didn't play enough to compare similar sample sizes under the same variables. The obvious point that is being made is that over the past 25% of his career, Reimer hasn't been particularly great, in fact no better than Gustavsson. You can like that or lump that. At the end of the day, they've produced the exact same end results.

Do we know Reimer is capable of more? For sure. Do we know which guy we're getting? Not by a long shot.....yet.
I would guess that you used the 10 game sample because it made Gus look as good as possible. I mean we've got near 80 games of Gus not being able to sustain a .905sv% or anywhere near it, so looking at the last 10 and pointing out that it's kind almost in the same ballpark as Reimer's last 10 is a bit off. And the Leafs certainly haven't received even .911 goaltending since Reimer went out - they've received .901 goaltending with Reimer out, and that's not acceptable goaltending in this league.

Gus has strung a couple of very nice games together for the first time in a long, long time, and that'll make him look better in any small sample variation right now. Before the last 2 impressive games, though, you wouldn't have been able to find any sample size variation which made him look even passable good. I hope like hell he can keep it up, because then suddenly we have some legit goalie depth.


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11-23-2011, 03:11 PM
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12 goals difference per year is a difference of anywhere between 5-10 slots in GAA ranking.

So no, those numbers aren't as close as you think.
It's the difference between 1st and 4th, 4th and 8th, 7th and 10th, 10th and 12th,
13th and 19th, 19th and 24th, etc. in actual NHL standings.

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I would guess that you used the 10 game sample because it made Gus look as good as possible. I mean we've got near 80 games of Gus not being able to sustain a .905sv% or anywhere near it, so looking at the last 10 and pointing out that it's kind almost in the same ballpark as Reimer's last 10 is a bit off. And the Leafs certainly haven't received even .911 goaltending since Reimer went out - they've received .901 goaltending with Reimer out, and that's not acceptable goaltending in this league.

Gus has strung a couple of very nice games together for the first time in a long, long time, and that'll make him look better in any small sample variation right now. Before the last 2 impressive games, though, you wouldn't have been able to find any sample size variation which made him look even passable good. I hope like hell he can keep it up, because then suddenly we have some legit goalie depth.
You would guess wrong. Again, since you like stats, I would think you would understand the importance of keeping variables as constant as possible. One of the biggest ones would be the team in front of you. Another one would be health.

Gus held a .902 over 42 games in 2009-10, so suggesting he hasn't been able to come anywhere near .905 is just wrong. That isn't to say .902 is good but that your statement is off. Indeed, he posted a .905 over a 27 game stretch that year and a .920 over a 10 game stretch that year. Anyhow, that's all irrelevant as the point wasn't that he can do well over short isolated periods, the point was that Reimer's play has really tailed off and given how miniscule his entire body of work is, I hope it is merely a blip in the road. Time will tell.

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11-23-2011, 05:17 PM
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Reimer next start?

Anyone know when it will be?

Any chance it will be before Dec 3 game?

Thanks

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11-23-2011, 05:18 PM
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We're hoping it'll be just in time for the home-and-home with Boston.

But.... we have no idea.

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11-23-2011, 05:20 PM
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Please come back Reimer, pleeeaaassseeeee

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11-23-2011, 05:21 PM
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No idea.

I don't even think the team knows yet. All based on how he responds to his first full practice (tomorrow) in Dallas. If that goes well without set back, then it's a race to get to full fitness (don't forget that he's spent about 2 weeks off the ice).

Guessing game at the moment, no one knows for sure. Anyone suggesting otherwise is trying to be a "know-it-all"

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We're hoping it'll be just in time for the home-and-home with Boston.

But.... we have no idea.

Ahh thanks for the help

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No idea.

I don't even think the team knows yet. All based on how he responds to his first full practice (tomorrow) in Dallas. If that goes well without set back, then it's a race to get to full fitness (don't forget that he's spent about 2 weeks off the ice).

Guessing game at the moment, no one knows for sure. Anyone suggesting otherwise is trying to be a "know-it-all"
Well said, its one thing to come back, its another to get back from having two weeks off the ice.

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11-23-2011, 05:24 PM
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really hoping its against hte bruins we need it.

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Nothing confirmed.

Hopefully he gets back in time for one of the boston games.

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We're hoping it'll be just in time for the home-and-home with Boston.

But.... we have no idea.
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really hoping its against the bruins we need it.

I just realized we have back to back games against Boston next week

- Wed, 30 Nov 2011 Bruins @ Leafs
- Sat, 3 Dec 2011 Leafs @ Bruins

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11-23-2011, 05:27 PM
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Ahh thanks for the help
I know it wasn't a good answer, but the Boston games seem reasonable from the information that has been said by Wilson and co.


But, none of us ACTUALLY know

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11-23-2011, 05:36 PM
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yup, like others have said the boston games are the best guess atm, but nothing more

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11-23-2011, 06:38 PM
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If he is ready give him the away game against Boston and give Gustavsson the home game. I say this because it I think Reimer has the better chance of going into Boston and stealing a win and Gustavsson has been playing great as of late so the home game against Boston can help his confidence f he plays well or destroy him completely if he lets 7 goals in.

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If he comes back for those 2 games, give him the starts since we all know Reims likes to dominate the Bruins

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11-23-2011, 06:58 PM
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It's the difference between 1st and 4th, 4th and 8th, 7th and 10th, 10th and 12th,
13th and 19th, 19th and 24th, etc. in actual NHL standings.
so you managed to find 3 gaps less than 5 spots.

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You would guess wrong. Again, since you like stats, I would think you would understand the importance of keeping variables as constant as possible. One of the biggest ones would be the team in front of you. Another one would be health.

Gus held a .902 over 42 games in 2009-10, so suggesting he hasn't been able to come anywhere near .905 is just wrong. That isn't to say .902 is good but that your statement is off. Indeed, he posted a .905 over a 27 game stretch that year and a .920 over a 10 game stretch that year. Anyhow, that's all irrelevant as the point wasn't that he can do well over short isolated periods, the point was that Reimer's play has really tailed off and given how miniscule his entire body of work is, I hope it is merely a blip in the road. Time will tell.
If Gus can keep up a decent save percentage, I will praise him for it, and the Leafs will be much better off because of it.

But don't pretend he has so far because he hasn't.

His save percentage this year is .899. Leafs overall save percentage without Reimer is .901.

That is not good enough, and gives us every reason to expect the return of Reimer will result in a significant improvement in net.

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Even if comes back soon I doubt he'll play right away.
Until Gustavsson slips up there's no reason to swap him out.

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Even if comes back soon I doubt he'll play right away.
Until Gustavsson slips up there's no reason to swap him out.
you're joking, right?

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I read some where that he's 99%. If he's still not 100% I'd think he's 1-2 weeks away still.

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He only cares about Reimer for Fantasy based reasons.

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Please be before the Boston games..he better play both of those...don't want another blowout because of the back up situations.

Also, Tim Thomas isn't really Tim Thomas against us.. he's like 2.78 GAA and .912 SV, but weak goals and bad starts mean easy wins for Thomas.

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Even if comes back soon I doubt he'll play right away.
Until Gustavsson slips up there's no reason to swap him out.

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Hopefully very soon for the team's sake. Hopefully by December 6th for my sake.

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Maybe best to hold Reimer off past those Boston games. No need for his first return to be against another team who has been running goalies. Let's give the guy some kind of break getting back into the action.

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