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11-20-2011, 06:03 PM
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Personally, I'd like to see Ryan slot in as the #2 C.. i really really think he plays MUCH better with the puck than without it.. when ryan slots in beside getzlaf and perry he doesn't touch that puck all that often and we all know that all 3 of them like having the puck on their stick..

if the only reason that ryan isn't a centreman is because he sucks at faceoffs than thats just retarded.. let someone else take the faceoffs on that line or just look at getzlaf.. getzy is also pretty awful in the dot..

this would all magically work if penner is willing to come to anaheim for a reasonable contract.. then we can slot ryan in on the 2nd line c..

when getzy went down ryan looked shaky his first coupel games but imo he got a lot better as it progressed.. then when he moved back to LW he started floating again because he didn't get to have the puck on his stick as much.. ryan has the ability to carry a line and i think if we dedicated an entire off-season to him learning the C position and working on faceoffs we can get that legitimate 1/2 combo..

just my thoughts anyway

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11-21-2011, 08:39 AM
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Traded or not, if the Ducks wanna get somewhere this year they better get Ryan going some how. The kid has been struggling on the score sheet and its costing you games. You guys need him to provide you that extra scoring punch. I think its time for Anh to give Ryan some top PP line time. Doesnt have to be for the rest of the year or every PP. But split him with Selanne on the top PP unit until he gets rolling.

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11-21-2011, 09:16 AM
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Traded or not, if the Ducks wanna get somewhere this year they better get Ryan going some how. The kid has been struggling on the score sheet and its costing you games. You guys need him to provide you that extra scoring punch. I think its time for Anh to give Ryan some top PP line time. Doesnt have to be for the rest of the year or every PP. But split him with Selanne on the top PP unit until he gets rolling.
You don't take your best PP forward off the 1st PP unit

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11-21-2011, 09:28 AM
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Traded or not, if the Ducks wanna get somewhere this year they better get Ryan going some how. The kid has been struggling on the score sheet and its costing you games. You guys need him to provide you that extra scoring punch. I think its time for Anh to give Ryan some top PP line time. Doesnt have to be for the rest of the year or every PP. But split him with Selanne on the top PP unit until he gets rolling.
I wouldn't put all the blame on Ryan, the whole first line isn't scoring enough (and bunch of other players are also performing badly). Selänne owns that spot in 1st PP unit, no way he gets moved.

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11-21-2011, 01:34 PM
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You don't take your best PP forward off the 1st PP unit
This. I wouldnt be opposed to putting Ryan and Selanne on that unit and putting Foster in Siberia. Let Getzlaf play the point, Selanne can win draws.

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11-23-2011, 11:23 AM
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This. I wouldnt be opposed to putting Ryan and Selanne on that unit and putting Foster in Siberia. Let Getzlaf play the point, Selanne can win draws.
I think that would be a marvelous idea..

You avoid taking out Selanne from the top PP, and you still give Ryan top PP time to help get things going.

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11-23-2011, 03:27 PM
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Getzlaf doesn't work at the point. It's been tried and failed many times before.

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11-23-2011, 04:12 PM
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Getzlaf doesn't work at the point. It's been tried and failed many times before.
Foster hasn't been so great for us either. Lubo and Fowler back at that blueline make magic with their end to end passes. Foster doesn't watch the puck on the PP for whatever reason, and by the time he realizes a pass is coming his way, the puck is going to fast and is too close to put his stick down on the ice, and the whole play goes dead.

That's supposed to be his area of expertise. 5 on 5 hockey, he's even worse. Honestly, I felt more comfortable with Andy Sutton playing defense. Basically anytime Foster is on the ice I do this

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11-23-2011, 04:30 PM
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Foster hasn't been so great for us either.
Yeah, I don't really get that. The only reason Foster is in the NHL is because of his PP ability and he had a career year on Tampas first unit not long ago. He's definitely a downgrade over Visnovsky but he should at least be able to contribute without screwing up all the time.

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11-23-2011, 04:59 PM
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I'd prefer Beauch on point, but I figure with him killing every penalty already his minutes would get way up with more PP time. Getzlaf is having a rough year so far, and it gets worse when you put him at point. And the whole RPG line, not just Bobby are sucking on 5x5. Corey Perry only has one even strength goal in 20 games! Getzlaf has 2. Bobby has more than both combined with 5. In other words OUR TOP LINE HAS 8 GOALS IN 20 GAMES!!!!!!! One goal every 2.5 games doesn't cut it. We are screwed...

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11-24-2011, 04:46 AM
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To NJ:

RW Bobby Ryan

To Ana:

LW Mattias Tedenby

D Jon Merill

2012 2nd


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11-24-2011, 05:51 AM
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To NJ:

RW Bobby Ryan

To Ana:

LW Mattias Tedenby

D Jon Merill

2012 2nd
Nope. Next.

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11-24-2011, 06:28 AM
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To NJ:

RW Bobby Ryan

To Ana:

LW Mattias Tedenby

D Jon Merill

2012 2nd
not even close.

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11-24-2011, 07:13 AM
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To NJ:

RW Bobby Ryan

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D Jon Merill

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Too much value in Merill, who as a Dman does not fill a need.

Make it an equivalently valued center.

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11-24-2011, 07:15 AM
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Too much value in Merill, who as a Dman does not fill a need.

Make it an equivalently valued center.
Too MUCH value?

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Hartnell + Schenn?

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11-24-2011, 05:41 PM
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Getzlaf doesn't work at the point. It's been tried and failed many times before.
It worked when we had Neidermayer. Getzlaf may have taken some faceoffs, but him and Pronger were at the point, Neids was a forward. The problem though, was Pronger was the shooter, and Getzlaf was the passer. Fowler is a passer right now, and Getzlaf will never shoot so its a problem. Ill try Ryan at the point again, if it means getting Foster off the ice.

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11-24-2011, 05:43 PM
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Hartnell + Schenn?
Coturier or bust

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It worked when we had Neidermayer. Getzlaf may have taken some faceoffs, but him and Pronger were at the point, Neids was a forward. The problem though, was Pronger was the shooter, and Getzlaf was the passer. Fowler is a passer right now, and Getzlaf will never shoot so its a problem. Ill try Ryan at the point again, if it means getting Foster off the ice.
As you said, Getzlaf would rotate around and play the point a little bit but Pronger was the primary point man. Fowler plays more of the Niedermayer role, if we play four forwards on the PP we need someone pulling the trigger from the blueline and Getzlaf isn't that guy.

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11-24-2011, 05:46 PM
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Hartnell + Schenn?
Better than a lot that I've seen around here, but we need a guy who is more proven than Schenn. He could only end up being a 3rd liner for all we know.

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11-24-2011, 05:48 PM
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Hartnell + Schenn?
That's a good starting point. Although Hartnell's discipline and consistency issues are really worrying.

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11-24-2011, 06:02 PM
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As you said, Getzlaf would rotate around and play the point a little bit but Pronger was the primary point man. Fowler plays more of the Niedermayer role, if we play four forwards on the PP we need someone pulling the trigger from the blueline and Getzlaf isn't that guy.
Exactly, which is kind of the problem. Its sad too, because his skills set is perfect for that role, but his brain is not. Ryan has a pretty nice shot, and even though it didnt really work last year, I would try that again. Having the most skill possibly on the ice is something to give a try.

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11-24-2011, 06:23 PM
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Yeah I would be inclined to try Ryan at the point, he's got a great shot (second best on the team behind Getzlaf) and isn't afraid to use it. Foster has a bullet but it's inaccurate and he has completely sucked at getting it through opposing defenses and on net.

The PP has been so bad lately that everytime we got one in the Phoenix game I knew I could switch off and not pay attention for two minutes because I wouldn't miss anything. It would be nice if that wasn't the case.

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11-24-2011, 07:04 PM
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Schenn + Kadri + Macarthur

About as good as it gets, aside from Kulemin from the Leafs. Meh, I tried.

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Thoughts on this?

S.Kostitsyn + Spaling + Ellis + 1st

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