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11-24-2011, 05:01 PM
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I like MZA but maybe that "threat" to go back to Europe if he didn't get called up was heard by management and he's being punished
err, when did he say that ?

That was all speculation and fan/media created, Zucc has always been crystal clear in all his interviews (that i've seen) that he wants to stay in the NHL.

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didn't hagelin play with zucc on the same line?
I believe they've been on the same line in the Whale, yes.

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11-24-2011, 05:02 PM
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Stupid question, but how is Zuccs not in the NHL? I actually feel bad for him. He deserves to be in the bigs

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11-24-2011, 05:04 PM
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Stupid question, but how is Zuccs not in the NHL? I actually feel bad for him. He deserves to be in the bigs
The short and simple answer is that the Rangers dont have any room for him outside of the 4th line and 5 minutes a night on the ice (which is a waste, so he is better served with top minutes in the AHL).

Now we can of course discuss the wisdom of that philosophy, but thats the reason given

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11-24-2011, 05:05 PM
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Stupid question#2;

Can they play tomorrow?

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Yeah not sure why Zuccarello wasn't called up here. I'd imagine Deveaux is gone and hopefully Christensen.
Probably because Zuccarello has no business being in the NHL.

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11-24-2011, 05:07 PM
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Stupid question#2;

Can they play tomorrow?
answer, of course
I am sure they will both be in, no pt to call them up otherwise

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11-24-2011, 05:08 PM
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Stupid question#2;

Can they play tomorrow?
They who, Hagelin and Mitchell ? If they can make it over to the Rangers in time for the game, i dont see why not.

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11-24-2011, 05:09 PM
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why keep complaining that MZA isn't getting called up when he has continuously shown that he's not "ready" (aka good enough) to play at the nhl level?

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11-24-2011, 05:17 PM
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Probably because Zuccarello has no business being in the NHL.
I'm sure he could get 1 goal in 18 games.

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why keep complaining that MZA isn't getting called up when he has continuously shown that he's not "ready" (aka good enough) to play at the nhl level?
he keeps getting passed over. It may time to see the headline saying NYR trade Zuccarello for X prospect

kids needs a chance and Torts won't give it to him.

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11-24-2011, 05:28 PM
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A fourth liner went down, nothing changed when it comes to Zuccarello, still no room on the top lines for him.

But they could play him on the 4'th AND the powerplay. That way he'd get some more icetime, and the pitiful pp improved a lot.

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11-24-2011, 05:30 PM
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Yes yes yes yes yes.

Would like to see:

Anisimov-Stepan-Gaborik
Hagelin-Richards-Callahan
Dubinsky-Boyle-Fedotenko
Avery-Mitchell-Prust

Realistically, switch Hagelin and Dubinsky...or just take Hagelin out and put EC in, which is what will likely happen. Or Avery will be scratched (he certainly doesn't deserve to be, but we know Torts).

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11-24-2011, 05:32 PM
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I like MZA but maybe that "threat" to go back to Europe if he didn't get called up was heard by management and he's being punished.
Only problem with that is not only did Zooks never threaten to go back to Europe, he said the opposite that even if he wasnt in the Rangers future plans he would look to stay in the NHL.

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11-24-2011, 05:33 PM
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6 g 17 A 23 points in 42 G averaging what 10-12 min of ice a game in a oppressively stagnant system as a rookie is hardly " not NHL READY . while these are not earth shattering numbers I'd like to imagine if we imported more skill players and less "" torts kind of plumbers " and played a puck control system MZA would be more than a serviceable NHL player .
MZA is no savior but he can make Plays . Torts coaches to not only win for the team but win TO KEEP HIS JOB . in his mind the only way the NYR can compete is to play the stagnant long dump and chase cycle game . MZA is def undersized and therefore not the best away from the puck . But if DANNY Briere , NATHAN Gerbe , Marchand and countless other undersized players can make it in the NHL a team like the NYR desperate for goals should give him a chance

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11-24-2011, 05:40 PM
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Yeah not sure why Zuccarello wasn't called up here. I'd imagine Deveaux is gone and hopefully Christensen.
The reason Zucc was not called up was because of the salary cap ? At least what they write on Blueshirtbanter.

Anyway, I think Hagelin and Mitchell deserves this. And it seems that Zucc will not be playing for NYR anymore.

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11-24-2011, 05:40 PM
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@ people clamoring for a player who is 5'6", can't skate, no speed, sucks on D, not physical, terrible on the boards.

Best asset is a good passer. Like this team needs another passer.

We're already a pass happy bunch....

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Hagelin deserve this and i hope Torts gives him a real opportunity, in line with Callahan.

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11-24-2011, 05:45 PM
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No MZA one again.

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11-24-2011, 05:57 PM
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please EC be the odd man out. and why the **** wasn't Zuke called up?

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why keep complaining that MZA isn't getting called up when he has continuously shown that he's not "ready" (aka good enough) to play at the nhl level?

NY Rangers stats:

#1 in power play points per minute last season
#3 in overall points per minute last season
#5 in points per game last season

Yeah he really showed he was not good enough, lol.

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Only problem with that is not only did Zooks never threaten to go back to Europe, he said the opposite that even if he wasnt in the Rangers future plans he would look to stay in the NHL.
totes mcgotes.

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11-24-2011, 06:00 PM
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It doesn't matter who gets called up as long as we play Torts "system" ...

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Hagelin deserve this and i hope Torts gives him a real opportunity, in line with Callahan.
that would be nice. If they are going to keep the GAS line together they should put Hagelin with Richards and Cally......Dubi has struggled so play him with Boyle and Feds.........rest on 4th line

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Been asking for Hagelin to get called up the past couple of days.

He's producing at the AHL level.

Im hoping he makes an immediate impact and sticks.

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11-24-2011, 06:10 PM
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A major problem with Zuccarello is his $850,000 in performance bonuses. If those bonuses are still reachable,they would count against the salary cap if the Rangers brought him up. No bonus cushion. He carries nearly a $1.3M cap hit. Pro-rated on the number of NHL days left on the schedule.

Bringing up both Hagelin and Mitchell puts the Rangers in the "at or near the upper limit" territory to benefit from long term IR.

The Rangers have $1,112,469 in space

Hagelin has $633,783 remaining.

Mitchell has $470,810 remaining.

A combined cap hit of $1,104,593. Leaves the Rangers at $7,876 in remaining space.

Maybe the Rangers will put a player(s) on long term IR because they put themselves in position to use long term IR.

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