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11-26-2011, 05:02 PM
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No, you don't get it.

You're confusing things.


Correct. Points percentage is not the same thing.

We've lost more than we've won. We are below .500 in win percentage.

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How does the term 'overtime loss' become 'more of a tie' when ties don't exist in the NHL? It's a LOSS dude.



I really hope that someday we have a team that's good enough that we don't worry about what a .500 record is.
Lafleurs Guy I agree with you on something!.. .500 hockey usually based on wins/loses not points. U honestly know nobody who says "we're .500 after 4 games we have 4 points! one win in and 2 shootout losses with 1 regulation loss" Thats so dumb lol....500 is 5W-5L

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11-26-2011, 05:03 PM
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No way in hell Anaheim does this, what a terrible trade. Maaaaaayyybe Cammy and a 1st but still thats pushing it. Why not give up a D prospect we have a billion of them and we need scoring.
lol wut? we have a lot but not a lot of good ones maybe 4 or 5 that look to be almost sure things id rather just give away a 1st round pick cuz itll be a 20th and higher picks anyways.

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11-26-2011, 05:06 PM
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lol wut? we have a lot but not a lot of good ones maybe 4 or 5 that look to be almost sure things id rather just give away a 1st round pick cuz itll be a 20th and higher picks anyways.
dude either way its a fake rumor who cares. But we have too many dmen as it is. Yeah lets give away a first rounder

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11-26-2011, 05:08 PM
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Do. It. Now!

Ryan is the complete package. He would fit right in with Pacioretty and Cole.
I always thought we should've offered Koivu for Ryan when the Ducks were making their run a few years back. Ryan was still in the minors and we were teetering on the playoffs. We wound up missing of course and the Ducks went on to win it anyway.

I still can't help but think that we could've gotten him then. Koivu was tight with Selanne and Anaheim had the space to add him.

Anyways, I don't see Ryan going anywhere now. He's 24. Why do they let him go now?

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11-26-2011, 05:10 PM
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I always thought we should've offered Koivu for Ryan when the Ducks were making their run a few years back. Ryan was still in the minors and we were teetering on the playoffs. We wound up missing of course and the Ducks went on to win it anyway.

I still can't help but think that we could've gotten him then. Koivu was tight with Selanne and Anaheim had the space to add him.

Anyways, I don't see Ryan going anywhere now. He's 24. Why do they let him go now?
was this a real rumor back in the day?..I love Koivu I looked up to him as a child. Amazing player and an great guy. Too bad habs organization didn't do **** for him and put good players around him other than prima donna Kovalev.

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11-26-2011, 05:13 PM
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I always thought we should've offered Koivu for Ryan when the Ducks were making their run a few years back. Ryan was still in the minors and we were teetering on the playoffs. We wound up missing of course and the Ducks went on to win it anyway.

I still can't help but think that we could've gotten him then. Koivu was tight with Selanne and Anaheim had the space to add him.

Anyways, I don't see Ryan going anywhere now. He's 24. Why do they let him go now?
I remember all those rumors surrounding Souray around the trade deadline when he had his big season. So many names floating around, including Ryan and Getzlaf. Considering Rivet had just netted Gorges and a 1st, either Ryan or Getzlaf weren't outside the realm of possibility.

Could have cashed in big time. Over the years, we let so many players leave as unrestricted free agents without getting anything in return...

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Right now, we are not a .500 team
we are exactly .500

23 of 46 possible points.


The problem with this board is expectation. I told anybody who would listen we regressed in the off-season. But the only response I got was derp richards overrated our defence is da best evarrr with Markov back and healthy. Guess what, we got worse. Markov was a poor investment. You don't sign a guy to a 3 year contract when he has barely played in 2 years. Its already been over a year since he last played. The last time we saw Markov play any meaningful number of NHL games he will have been 2 years younger than by the time he gets back. We let go of Wisniewski without even giving him a phone call, and everybody applauded the decision. His 10 points thus far on the year are more points than Markov has even played games over the last 18 months. Think about that for a second. Markov has played just 7 games in a year and a half.

Anybody who blames coaching is simply flat out stupid. We have a mediocre roster with an elite goaltender and a terrible defence. Coaching is the reason we aren't bottom feeders.


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11-26-2011, 05:20 PM
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we are exactly .500

23 of 46 possible points.
Too bad teams that are .500 don't make the playoffs.

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another 3-4 points game for Crosby tonight.

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we are exactly .500

23 of 46 possible points.
Did u ****ing read?


We are a .500 points percentage team.

We are not a .500 winning percentage team.

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I remember all those rumors surrounding Souray around the trade deadline when he had his big season. So many names floating around, including Ryan and Getzlaf. Considering Rivet had just netted Gorges and a 1st, either Ryan or Getzlaf weren't outside the realm of possibility.

Could have cashed in big time. Over the years, we let so many players leave as unrestricted free agents without getting anything in return...
Because the team when they were on the bubble, they would always rather shoot for 7th and 8th place then blow it up and miss the playoffs. Souray was incredible that season, Rivet was solid but the opinion of him on these boards was that he was basically a Spacek, people always trying to get rid of him. I think everyone was amazed at what he fetched. It`s a tough call to make, sneak into the postseason, or trade the vets for prospects...

Its the problem with mediocrity, always good enough to squeak by, the Habs are never good enough to be amazing or bad enough to get the amazing result of a number 1 pick. Continued cycle of middle of the road finishes, which only works if your team is exceptional at trading and drafting (another area where we are never great but never awful either).

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11-26-2011, 05:23 PM
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Too bad teams that are .500 don't make the playoffs.
Are you sure?

I'm pretty certain had both Columbus and New Jersey finished with just one more point last season they'd be locks for the playoffs.


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11-26-2011, 05:24 PM
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was this a real rumor back in the day?..I love Koivu I looked up to him as a child. Amazing player and an great guy. Too bad habs organization didn't do **** for him and put good players around him other than prima donna Kovalev.
It's all speculative. Brian Burke went on record as saying he wasn't going to trade Ryan for a rental.

It's just my belief that we could've done something here. Huet had gone down with an injury and we were looking like we might miss the playoffs. We had Souray to trade with and Koivu who I think the Ducks would've really liked.

It's speculative, but I believe we could've worked something out.

I don't think we can get him now though.

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11-26-2011, 05:29 PM
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Lol at people getting mad on the .500 team thing.

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11-26-2011, 05:31 PM
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Are you sure?

I'm pretty certain had both Columbus and New Jersey finished with just one more point last season they'd be locks for the playoffs.

Now we know what is on JM's notepad...

Step 1: Win 1 game
Step 2: Lose 1 game
Step 3: ???
Step 4: PLAYOFFS!

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11-26-2011, 05:32 PM
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Term ".500 team" has always referred to winning percentage in all major pro leagues I know and follow. Stop the madness please.
That applies to all sports leagues except the NHL. Winning percentage isn't a stat in the standings. NHL uses a point system. Habs have earned 23 of a possible 46 points. That's .500. OT/SO losses are the equivalent of ties which is why they have a distinct category much like a 'ties' category.

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11-26-2011, 05:34 PM
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Too bad teams that are .500 don't make the playoffs.
And lucky playoffs don't begin 23 games into the season

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Is Bob Cole doing the game tonight? If so it's going to be tough for him to be slobbering evenly all over the Habs as well as Crosby.

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Did u ****ing read?


We are a .500 points percentage team.

We are not a .500 winning percentage team.
Why bring up such a useless stat? The NHL doesn't use it. Why are you placing so much emphasis on it?

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11-26-2011, 05:37 PM
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And lucky playoffs don't begin 23 games into the season
23 or 82 games into the season his point does not change though.

Referring to a .500 P% team is akin to referring to a mediocre non-contender for the playoffs.

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And lucky playoffs don't begin 23 games into the season
So when we are .500 after 82 games we should start talking about it?

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AK46 is in according to Boone

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I want to say that this is one of those times Montreal is supposed to lose but for some reason end up pulling off some dominant, but this is the Pittsburgh Penguins. They're healthy and starting to heat up. Definitely not getting my hopes up at all.

3-1 Pens...

But still, Go Habs Go!!!

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