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11-26-2011, 09:56 PM
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I have to admit, as a Pens fan, the goal left me a bit cold. I was shocked a whistle never blew. But, as has been said a number of times already, you play to the whistle....

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11-26-2011, 09:56 PM
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If you play hockey, next time you're on the ice have your goalie cover a puck and try to knock it loose . I'm pretty sure you'll see it is really easy to poke a covered puck free.
I played goal for 7 years, I know that if you really have the puck covered a weak poke won't knock the puck free very easily.

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11-26-2011, 09:56 PM
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Someone clearly doesn't understand a clear joke. Your Pens hate prolly blinded you...
I don't hate the Pens. When looking at this call i don't bother looking at the sweaters.Had it been the Habs scoring on the Pens in the same fashion i would still call it a bad call by the ref.Liks some Pen fans i would have been delighted for the win but i at least know when a bad call is made reguardless of which team it benifits. You don't seem to be able to differ from that.

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11-26-2011, 09:57 PM
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Hate the Habs. Like Letang.

Was a BS goal. That whistle has to go.

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11-26-2011, 09:57 PM
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I have to admit, as a Pens fan, the goal left me a bit cold. I was shocked a whistle never blew. But, as has been said a number of times already, you play to the whistle....
What do you expect Price to do? He was covering the puck waiting for the whistle, that never came.

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11-26-2011, 09:58 PM
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11-26-2011, 09:58 PM
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I've played goalie for over 35 years. A puck can be knocked loose no matter how well you have it covered.
I got the feeling you knew what you were talking about. It's nice to know that there are people on this board that have actually been involved in the game when they are commenting on matters like this.

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11-26-2011, 09:59 PM
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Really .I would say try checking the video again.
The puck is in Prices pads at the 42 second mark in the vid.The goal goes in at the 48 second mark and your trying to say the ref only lost sight for 2 or 3 sec.
As i claimed some will never see it as it really happened and we all know why.
I had the puck hitting the pads at ~43 and in at ~47. The clock ran an extra sec after the goal went in. Regardless not once does Price look like he has the puck completely covered from the refs POV.

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11-26-2011, 10:00 PM
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I played goal for 7 years, I know that if you really have the puck covered a weak poke won't knock the puck free very easily.
If you really have the puck covered? I guess there are different degrees of the puck being under your glove. The puck was frozen and the whistle should have been blown, I really don't understand how anyone can see it differently.

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11-26-2011, 10:01 PM
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I had the puck hitting the pads at ~43 and in at ~47. The clock ran an extra sec after the goal went in. Regardless not once does Price look like he has the puck completely covered from the refs POV.
We've seen time and time again that when a ref loses sight of the puck they blow the play dead. He did the opposite this time, he didn't know where the puck was, so he assumed it was free, he was wrong. I guess I should add IMO

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11-26-2011, 10:01 PM
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What do you expect Price to do? He was covering the puck waiting for the whistle, that never came.
1. Be mad at the refs.
2. Tell his teammates to play defense until the whistle blows next time.

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11-26-2011, 10:02 PM
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Yea, it should've been called, but he didn't even know where it was, and when he did his glove barely was overtop of it.

Good on the Pens for continuing to play instead of relying on the refs there

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11-26-2011, 10:02 PM
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I've played goalie for over 35 years. A puck can be knocked loose no matter how well you have it covered.
Like I said above, I played as well and know that the poke Neal gave price would never have knocked the puck free if it was really covered.

I'm not debating that it's impossible to dislodge a covered puck, only that the weak poke that knocked the puck loose would not have happened had the puck really been covered.

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11-26-2011, 10:02 PM
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I had the puck hitting the pads at ~43 and in at ~47. The clock ran an extra sec after the goal went in. Regardless not once does Price look like he has the puck completely covered from the refs POV.
I believe you have hit the nail on the head although inadvertantly, once the refs loses sight of the puck he must blow the whistle. From the POV of the ref the puck was out of sight, hence blown whistle. I think that it was a mistake like thousands of others, at least Montreal got a point.

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11-26-2011, 10:03 PM
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I like to commend the many fans from many different teams including the Pen fans who have come in this thread and have said that the play should have been blown dead.
The enjoyment of the goal counting i can understand.A win is a win. Thats all that matter and all Pen fans should be happy about winning the game fair goal or not.
Except for a few trolls this thread has been top notch with the OP'S question being answered.The refs blew the play but the goal still counted .I can and will live with that.


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11-26-2011, 10:05 PM
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What do you expect Price to do? He was covering the puck waiting for the whistle, that never came.
I'm referring more to the Habs around Price who seem to quit playing--unlike 18 and 58 for the Pens. Neal and Letang should have been on their wallets. Anyway, not a good call, but as a Pens fan, I can't say the win is not a fair result.

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11-26-2011, 10:05 PM
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1. Be mad at the refs.
2. Tell his teammates to play defense until the whistle blows next time.
This is pretty much it. Refs blew it, Habs players need to somehow learn to stay focused no matter what. Lesson learned both ways hopefully. Although, I have a feeling the future will show both will have failed the lesson.

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11-26-2011, 10:06 PM
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The refs were **** all game.

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11-26-2011, 10:07 PM
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I'm not sure Penguin fans (as they seem to be the only ones arguing that this was a good goal) understand that covering the puck does not mean solely covering it against the ice with your glove. It can be as simple as trapping it against your body. Which is exactly what he did. For three seconds. Bad call

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11-26-2011, 10:07 PM
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We've seen time and time again that when a ref loses sight of the puck they blow the play dead. He did the opposite this time, he didn't know where the puck was, so he assumed it was free, he was wrong. I guess I should add IMO
Maybe Price should have acted like it more to get the call. Meaning hunch over, dive on it and not just a simple glove cover that might have been only 1.5 seconds.

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Just saw the replay for the 3rd time and watched the it slo-mo:

2:56 - puck hits pads
2:55 - Price looks for puck
2:54 - Price puts glove on puck
2:53 - neal pokes it free
2:52 - letang scores


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11-26-2011, 10:08 PM
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Referee was out of position and missed the call.
That said, the Habs dman should have cleared the crease and not let Penguins poke at puck.
And karma revenge by Letang with that goal after the equally bad ref missed on the letang hit

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Have you even held a goalie glove, let alone used one? "flexible fabric", lol.
Yeah I have. You're the one talking like you probably haven't.

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11-26-2011, 10:09 PM
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And another thing to look at. When there's a scrum in front of the net like that most refs move in behind the net and even jump on the net to get a better view. This ref made no attempt to locate the puck.

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Price had it covered, but he didn't know it until it got poked loose.

He was clueless and now he's *****ing because he wanted the refs to bail him out again.

What a cry baby. Grow up

Yea, it should've been called, but he didn't even know where it was, and when he did his glove barely was overtop of it.

Good on the Pens for continuing to play instead of relying on the refs there
Yes Canadiens players should have kept playing the puck. In fact they were braindead on at a couple of occasions tonight including by allowing the Staal breakaway that ended up in the tying goal.

Nevertheless it does not take away the fact that Price had the puck under his glove for AT LEAST three seconds and refs didn't blow the whistle regardless whether or not Price knew where the puck was. Play should have been stopped but wasn't. Penguins won the game. You can say whatever you want but it's Penguins who got away with one tonight.

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