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11-29-2011, 05:41 PM
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I love how some people think the Hawks will start trading core players now that they have their core locked up for the next 4 years at minimum and are in no cap trouble at all..

This means Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Bolland, Keith, Seabrook, Leddy and Crawford will not be traded unless the deal is too good to refuse..

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11-29-2011, 05:44 PM
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Assuming their teams will not be in the playoff hunt, I expect one of these dmen to be on the Hawks for the playoffs:
-Gleason
-Kuba
-Beauchemin

Chicago needs one tough dman and/or someone with size that can kill penalties and shutdown minutes. Doesn't have to be a marquee dman, someone that can play #3-5 in the depth chart. They have lots in the 5-8 slot, but are missing a 3-5 guy.

The Hawks have the money and assets to take on an expiring contract if the ask price is reasonable.

The rest of the money they have will be on a top 6 forward. A 3-4 dman and a top 6 forward would make this a scary team to play against in the playoffs.

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11-29-2011, 05:45 PM
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Marquee doesn't necessarily mean good, it just means recognizable. And Kaberle is much more recognizable than Gleason.
Exactly....

My thought is they may be looking at McCabe..

He'd be better than Lipesto or John Scott..

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11-29-2011, 05:46 PM
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Didn't Chicago sign a couple of defensemen over the summer?

What happened Stan Bowman?

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11-29-2011, 06:20 PM
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Just a name to toss out there for discussion - John-Michael Liles?

He's been a solid contributor to the Leafs this season and I'd like to re-sign him but there is probably going to be one of our defenseman traded to make room. He's also a UFA at year's end.

Do you guys need a defensive defenseman or an offensive one to replace Campbell?

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11-29-2011, 06:25 PM
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Didn't Chicago sign a couple of defensemen over the summer?

What happened Stan Bowman?
He signed depth defensmen, not a top 4 type guy. We have 4 top 4 type guys right now, but it would never hurt to have a 5th.

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11-29-2011, 06:26 PM
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Just a name to toss out there for discussion - John-Michael Liles?

He's been a solid contributor to the Leafs this season and I'd like to re-sign him but there is probably going to be one of our defenseman traded to make room. He's also a UFA at year's end.

Do you guys need a defensive defenseman or an offensive one to replace Campbell?
Definitely not a Campbel type Dman. We have no problem moving the puck up ice.

We need a tough, PK, defensive Dman.

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11-29-2011, 06:42 PM
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Definitely not a Campbel type Dman. We have no problem moving the puck up ice.

We need a tough, PK, defensive Dman.
Ah. I don't think the Leafs can help with this one, we only have Komisarek, Schenn and Gunnarsson who kind of fit that mold. And while Komisarek was playing well before his injury I doubt he's who you're after with his cap hit and for your #5 spot. Schenn will probably be too costly and Gunnarsson has been solid but is a great fit with Phaneuf.

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11-29-2011, 06:57 PM
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I love how some people think the Hawks will start trading core players now that they have their core locked up for the next 4 years at minimum and are in no cap trouble at all..

This means Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Bolland, Keith, Seabrook, Leddy and Crawford will not be traded unless the deal is too good to refuse..


Well, I love how some people think they can grab a MARQUEE d-man with little return.

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11-29-2011, 07:01 PM
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Well, I love how some people think they can grab a MARQUEE d-man with little return.
If you read the thread you might have picked up on the fact that the Hawks probably don't want a MARQUEE d-man.

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11-29-2011, 07:07 PM
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This won't end well.

You're asking for one of the best defensemen in the game for...

An overpaid #4 defenceman
Currently a good 3rd line center (at best)
A late 1st.

Nashville would get way better offers than that from every team in the league if Weber/Suter were really available.


I did read it.

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11-29-2011, 08:12 PM
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I did read it.
Originally, that bit about Weber/Suter was a separate thread that got merged into this one.

The source given at the start of the thread doesn't actually use the word "marquee"

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GM Stan Bowman will spend by dealing for a blueliner.
Which is good, since the Hawks really shouldn't be seeking a "marquee" defenseman anyway. We would probably be much better off both now and in the future with just "solid, yet underappreciated"

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11-29-2011, 08:33 PM
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Not a marquee d-man by any means but Sarich for a 3rd? He's tough and can PK well . . .

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11-29-2011, 09:31 PM
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Bickell and montador for paul martin

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11-30-2011, 12:39 AM
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I think it's been said already but Kaberle would be great in Chicago IMO.

Doesn't have to be "the guy" and can play his game.

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11-30-2011, 12:39 AM
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Uggh I want no part of Kaberle coming to Chicago

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I think it's been said already but Kaberle would be great in Chicago IMO.

Doesn't have to be "the guy" and can play his game.
The last thing the Hawks need is a soft PMD making 4.25 for two more years.


Plus Kaberle sucks.

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11-30-2011, 07:25 AM
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Kuba or Gonchar + 3rd for sharp

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11-30-2011, 08:14 AM
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Bickell and montador for paul martin
Not a chance in hell.

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11-30-2011, 08:54 AM
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Ottawa will give you Filip Kuba for your 1st round pick next year.

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11-30-2011, 09:37 AM
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With Markov back soon (either tonight, or Saturday) and Campoli who shouldn't be too far off, Montreal has d to trade.

Though, they're all offensive dman.

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Kuba or Gonchar + 3rd for sharp
Counter offer. Bickell and a 4th for Spezza.

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Ottawa will give you Filip Kuba for your 1st round pick next year.
Overpaid offenside dman for a 1st rounder? I feel that the Hawks could use their 1st with prospects to get someone less fragile with more snarl to their game (what they need) than Kuba.

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What would it take to get Gleeson? Hawks could send O'Donnell, Bickell and a medium prospect.

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What would it take to get Gleeson? Hawks could send O'Donnell, Bickell and a medium prospect.
That's not going to cut it. What incentive would there be for Carolina to accept that kind of offer? Exactly, none.

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