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11-29-2011, 11:20 PM
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Yeah, I know he won't keep it up. I'm just curious about what things to look for when/if his play starts going downhill. (besides the obvious over-handling of the puck)

Right now, he's playing with Carl Hagelin, also a recent callup in his 3rd game, and Brian Boyle. Hagelin was his linemate in Connecticut and set him up pretty nicely on his goal tonight. He's fast and extremely hard working. Boyle is 6'7" but plays like a physical 6'0". Mitchell seems to be doing the bulk of the boardwork on the line.

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11-29-2011, 11:28 PM
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You lost me, what's a Malkin?
Malkin [Maal-kin]
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1. The act of being Malkin.

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11-29-2011, 11:29 PM
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Rangers fan asking... what changed in his game last year to drop to just 3 points in 23 games and a -7, which was what his +/- was in 60 games the year before?

He's looked good in his few games up this season so far.
It was a combination of regression and poor coaching.

John Mitchell was a Fourth Line player trying to play as a Top Six player. The problem was, he didn't have the skill to do so. He'd try out-dekeing every player on he other team (Which led to turnovers) he'd try to create offense on his own (which generally led to turnovers).

The other problem was Wilson seemed to love him. He played him in situations he couldn't hope to excel at (With Kessel, on the PP, on the PK). He was supposed to be atleast decently defensively, but bar-none he was our worst PKer by a country mile. The stats for PPGA while he was on the ice was astronomical. This led to our PK (which was decent when Zigo was up) plummeting to worse in the league. Wilson eventually figured out he couldn't get the job done, and he was removed from the PK.

Plus, Kulemin (Who many around here believed had Top 6 potential) was getting the same/less ice-time as him, but he was playing 100% better (This was before Kulemin's breakout year last year) Kulemin was beasting defensively, physical, etc. But Wilson was loathed to give him a look in an offensive role, but always went to Johnny F Mitchell.

The fan-base soared on him, and I guess Burke saw what we all did, too.

If Wilson never played him in situations above his head, and Mitchell never got confused about what kinda player he had to be, well, he would still be gone, actually. Better options for Bottom Six roles in the organization now.

But we wouldn't have soared on him like we did.

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11-29-2011, 11:29 PM
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Rangers fan asking... what changed in his game last year to drop to just 3 points in 23 games and a -7, which was what his +/- was in 60 games the year before?

He's looked good in his few games up this season so far.
His opportunity and ice time dropped and he was beaten out by other better players as he proved to be ineffective.

Mitchell is actually decent when utilized properly. In his rookie season he had a good role in the bottom six and put up 30 pts. He had a good, simplified game and did the little things right, he was doing just fine in his role. The following season, Wilson developed a man-crush on this guy and put him on the first and second lines numerous times (we were lacking at centre so I guess Wilson was experimenting) and Mitchell tried to do way too much, he was clearly in over his head, and he became the whipping boy of the fanbase. Last year was his last chance, and he failed to deliver.

But again, if used properly, he's a good player. He's fast, can get gritty and is willing to go in the corners and dirty areas, and his defensive game isn't too shabby, can be utilized on the PK. His hands aren't horrible as long he doesn't try to overdo it (he was quite successful in the shootout, has a nice backhand), and he actually has a pretty sweet shot, his release is just a bit slow. The only thing he really lacks is hockey IQ, and that's what keeps him as a bottom six guy and not a top six guy.

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Yeah, I know he won't keep it up. I'm just curious about what things to look for when/if his play starts going downhill. (besides the obvious over-handling of the puck)

Right now, he's playing with Carl Hagelin, also a recent callup in his 3rd game, and Brian Boyle. Hagelin was his linemate in Connecticut and set him up pretty nicely on his goal tonight. He's fast and extremely hard working. Boyle is 6'7" but plays like a physical 6'0". Mitchell seems to be doing the bulk of the boardwork on the line.
Is that your fourth line? If so and if he remembers to play a 4th-liner role, he should be fine.

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11-29-2011, 11:39 PM
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Is that your fourth line? If so and if he remembers to play a 4th-liner role, he should be fine.
Our "3rd and 4th lines" are currently getting the same amount of ES ice time. We seem to be playing that line in 3rd line situations though.

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11-29-2011, 11:41 PM
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John Mitchell summed up in one video. Tries to create something and loses to puck to cause a goal .

The sad part about this goal, is that I saw it live at the ACC with my dad. We even joked about Mitchell about to lose the puck at that moment

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11-29-2011, 11:42 PM
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Oh, and thank you R1R2L1L2 and LeafofBread for the breakdowns. Great info I've passed on to the other guys on the Rangers board who were interested in how it went down in Toronto.

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11-30-2011, 12:39 AM
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Man I came in here thinking Johnny Malkin is Evgenis long lost brother...

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11-30-2011, 12:59 AM
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a broke homeless man's Malkin.
a broke homeless 3rd world country like Russia man's Malkin
oh, nm....

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11-30-2011, 01:03 AM
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Malkin [Maal-kin]
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1. The act of being Malkin.

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11-30-2011, 02:01 AM
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Brett Lebda > NHL

BUT!!

2X Brett Lebda < Jonny Malkin = Evgeni Malkin + Sidney Crosby + Patrick Kane's mouthguard

In Summary

Jonny Malkin > Hockey ...

I'm shocked we let him go for a 5th rounder. Brian Burke is a ****ing idiot

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11-30-2011, 02:52 AM
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John MItchell has all the assets and tools to be a superb NHL player.









All but talent and skill

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11-30-2011, 09:11 AM
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Mitchell has looked real good in a forechecking line, together with speedster Carl Hagelin (this guy looks real interesting) and Brian Boyle, who also seems to have been jumpstarted by these guys. Mitchell's boardwork has been excellent. He scored an important goal against Pittsburgh the other night, which was a beauty. We'll see how things develop, but so far, he has been a great callup for us. Like you've said in this thread, he can be effective when he plays his game and doesn't believe he is someone he isn't.

In fact, the callup of Mitchell and Hagelin has improved the Rangers to a better team overall, because they have added speed that wasn't there, except for Gaborik.

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11-30-2011, 09:18 AM
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You watch, Johnny Malkin is gonna put up a hatty against us on Monday.

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11-30-2011, 10:43 AM
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Who are the five best danglers of all time?

J Malkin
J Malkin
J Malkin
J Malkin
J Malkin
Cuz he shoots hot fire.

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He thinks he can play like malkin, but in reality he's worse than stajan

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Poor mans Kyle Wellwood.

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Johnny Malkin comes from a long line of players that put on a Leaf jersey and took it as a vacation. Good for him finding his way back to the NHL.

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Brett Lebda > NHL

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2X Brett Lebda < Jonny Malkin = Evgeni Malkin + Sidney Crosby + Patrick Kane's mouthguard

In Summary

Jonny Malkin > Hockey ...

I'm shocked we let him go for a 5th rounder. Brian Burke is a ****ing idiot
Believe it was a seventh.

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i didn't even know he was playing last night.

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a broke homeless man's Malkin.
Crippled in the last Great War to boot!

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ovechkin - crosby - johnny malkin

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