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11-30-2011, 12:57 PM
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I was just about to post about Botta's tweet, and to add that I saw a tweet saying the Sabres were asking about Parros. NHLInsights was the name of the account, not sure how reliable they are just putting it out there.

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The cap isn't as big of an issue to me as the lack of willingness to give up assets...
The cap & budget constraints will make it tough because any deal not only has to match asset-wise, but it has to be pretty darn close to dollar for dollar as the Sabres are in LTIR credit range and the Ducks have maxed out their budget for this year.

That adds an extra layer of complexity to things.

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Technically Stafford + Pysek(sp)/McNabb and a 1st should do it, but if we wanna outbid Toronto we will have to overpay...Something like Stafford/Ennis/D-man - our 2nd.

Its a gross overpayment, but probably what we'll need to get him...I'd do it personally, given that Ennis needs a new contract.....but I doubt regier will.
That deal can't happen without the Sabres shedding around $1.1M in salary as Ryan is a $5.1M cap hit and Stafford is at $4M.

It's a tricky puzzle to solve.

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11-30-2011, 12:58 PM
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I wonder if we have a group of scouts slated to head to Anaheim?

It could clear things up a bit more. If we make a trade with Anaheim, but it isn't for Ryan (or Getzlaf ), I'm going to be so disappointed. Haha.
They host the Habs tonight......

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11-30-2011, 01:00 PM
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He started multiple games consecutively before Miller went down with the injury. So, no, that's not his record as a starter.
I thought it was obvious that I was talking about his performance since Miller went down with the injury.

Let me rephrase: Enroth has a losing record since becoming the starting goalie of this team as of the first game after the 6-2 loss to the Bruins. Miller was injured in this game.

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Chris Botta Writer of Metro Puck column for The NY Times: It may not lead to a Bobby Ryan deal, but I can confirm the Ducks and Sabres are discussing a possible trade.
Toni Lydman!

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The cap & budget constraints will make it tough because any deal not only has to match asset-wise, but it has to be pretty darn close to dollar for dollar as the Sabres are in LTIR credit range and the Ducks have maxed out their budget for this year.

That adds an extra layer of complexity to things.



That deal can't happen without the Sabres shedding around $1.1M in salary as Ryan is a $5.1M cap hit and Stafford is at $4M.

It's a tricky puzzle to solve.
Also I believe the Ducks have 50 under contract and the Sabres have 48. Buffalo has little cap room and Anaheim doesn't want to take on anymore money so the deal could be a tough one to pull off.

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They host the Habs tonight......
If a trade is going down, then I'd assume we'd have scouts in Anaheim tonight.

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11-30-2011, 01:06 PM
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Toni Lydman!
that would be awesome. Though i don't want a trade, unless its a move to adjust our bloating rookie talent pool

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Also I believe the Ducks have 50 under contract and the Sabres have 48. Buffalo has little cap room and Anaheim doesn't want to take on anymore money so the deal could be a tough one to pull off.
As a dream, Getzlaf, Hiller, and Parros for Miller, Stafford, and Ellis is also a match with Anaheim taking on a prorated down piece of a $150k salary gap with the Sabres getting a prorated piece of a $75k cap savings.


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11-30-2011, 01:10 PM
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Copied the specific Botta report out to a separate thread. This one is about to lose its way regarding Miller, Bucky, and TBN.

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11-30-2011, 01:11 PM
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Botta's pretty dialed in. He's a shift-disturber in the press the likes of which Bucky is a pale imitation.
Is he the guy that the Isles were trying to ban?

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Is he the guy that the Isles were trying to ban?
Yes. He used to be their equivalent of Kevin Snow and they parted ways. Last year, he was pretty critical of their management and they tried to give him the boot by pulling his press credentials.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...rn=nhl-wp18617

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An interesting option. Bob Murray was in the house for the Sabres and Islanders last night. The Sabres obviously have an owner who has pushed for a bold move or two.

From Queen City Sports, claiming they have a source:

Buffalo, CBJ, and Toronto are the top three teams INTERESTED in Ryan. Right now Leafs have best offer of a combination of Schenn, GRabovski,Bozak, and/or Kadri. It's a very real possibility that Anaheim is using Buffalo to up the deal from Toronto. Also remember the Burke/Anaheim connection; Burke wants the player he drafted. Right now I'd view Toronto as the front runner. Sabres have an offer of Stafford, A young NHL ready player (my guess is Ennis), and a D prospect on the table.

Meanwhile, Bucky Gleason dropped this nugget in a column about the late Jim Kelley (seriously):

It could be, as a source contended before the game, related to a telephone call I hear they had regarding Ryan Miller on Monday about a possible swap for winger and three-time 30-goal scorer Bobby Ryan. It certainly makes sense, huh Jimbo?

As a foundation for a trade? Sure. As a one-for-one swap? No. The Ducks have more problems than what's between the pipes.

So there you go. Will Bobby Ryan be traded? The signs point to yes. But before you go making your pitch, make sure to read Anaheim Calling's myth vs. fact piece on Bobby Ryan. Especially if you want him as your center.
Interesting on the offer that the Sabres have on the table. Although, it doesn't work if the Ducks do have 50 pro contracts on the books.

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11-30-2011, 01:18 PM
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Also I believe the Ducks have 50 under contract and the Sabres have 48. Buffalo has little cap room and Anaheim doesn't want to take on anymore money so the deal could be a tough one to pull off.
Its not that hard on us honestly. Anaheim being near contract limit hurts.

If we wanted we could LTIR Boyes until we come up with a solution. I don't believe hes on LTIR at the moment.

Everything is possible with some ingenuity. That Leino signing is still looking like crap at the moment tho. >.<

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11-30-2011, 01:25 PM
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that would be awesome. Though i don't want a trade, unless its a move to adjust our bloating rookie talent pool
But the rookie talent pool is talented, why would you want to get rid of guys that are developing into NHL players?

I mean, unless it's for someone that'd immediately help out the Sabres, having a big pool of talent isn't a bad thing.

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11-30-2011, 01:38 PM
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Its not that hard on us honestly. Anaheim being near contract limit hurts.

If we wanted we could LTIR Boyes until we come up with a solution. I don't believe hes on LTIR at the moment.

Everything is possible with some ingenuity. That Leino signing is still looking like crap at the moment tho. >.<
According to capgeek he is.

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11-30-2011, 02:59 PM
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Unless Anaheim is dead set on Schenn, I don't see how Toronto has better assets than us.

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11-30-2011, 03:06 PM
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the chances of this team making a trade are about as slim as Tim Hortons offering delivery.

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11-30-2011, 03:09 PM
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the chances of this team making a trade are about as slim as Tim Hortons offering delivery.
How has this not come up before? This plan is ingenious!

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11-30-2011, 03:13 PM
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Unless Anaheim is dead set on Schenn, I don't see how Toronto has better assets than us.
What defenseman would the Sabres part with that is on par with Schenn if the Ducks want a top end D in the deal?

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Oops, didn't see the topic about this. My bad.

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Interesting on the offer that the Sabres have on the table. Although, it doesn't work if the Ducks do have 50 pro contracts on the books.
Queen City Sports is a website that a few fans at Buffalo Bills.com made this past year. They have claimed to have all sorts of sources in the past and they always end up with egg on their face.

They are no different than any other fan in speculating except they pass their speculation off as coming from a source.

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To be more specific, it's one guy at Buff State who used to blog for someone else, then decide to make his own site.

But the rest is pretty much right. He 'broke' a Bills story this year that was 100% false, so yeah, pretty much just another crappy blogger.

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What defenseman would the Sabres part with that is on par with Schenn if the Ducks want a top end D in the deal?
That's my point. Unless the Ducks are dead set on making the deal around an NHL ready defensive defenseman with a pedigree, our assets are simply better than what Toronto is bringing to the table. And if that's what Anaheim really wants for him, the Sabres wouldn't have gotten the guy anyway.

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Miller specifcially denied that he wanted to be traded to Pierre McGuire.
I'm pretty sure nobody wants to be traded to Pierre McGuire

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