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11-30-2011, 10:57 PM
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Speaking of the year that Staal was 3rd place, i looked up to see how close it was again..
Found this..
http://viewfrommyseats.com/2010-selke-results/

Look at who is above Andrew Ladd
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11-30-2011, 10:57 PM
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As compared to Datsyuk, Kesler, Toews, and the like

What does that have to do with winning the Selke?

Edit: I see Chris's point below--but Staal had 49 point seasons in his 2nd and 3rd year and was on pace for 60 last year before getting hurt. I think he's produce plenty of offense to garner the award at some point--given his reputation now.

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In the ryan thread, people saying Jordan staal will win the selke soon.. I just dont see him doing it.. He doesnt quite have the offensive upside to him
He isn't quite the best defensive forward in the NHL either...

Kesler, Richards, Koivu, Datsyuk, Toews, etc.

He's got a nice chunk of players that I consider better than him that he will have to have a better year than just to win the Selke.

Basically, one year he will have to Duncan Keith it...as in be arguably the best possibly without being actually the best that year while also being on a team where media/voters/hockey in general benefit decently by him getting a trophy.

That doesn't make him the best, just arguably the best in any given year.

Not to mention he has to actually score points too, as any winner of the Selke has to have.

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11-30-2011, 10:59 PM
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He isn't quite the best defensive forward in the NHL either...

Kesler, Richards, Koivu, Datsyuk, Toews, etc.

He's got a nice chunk of players that I consider better than him that he will have to have a better year than just to win the Selke.

Basically, one year he will have to Duncan Keith it...as in be arguably the best possibly without being actually the best that year while also being on a team where media/voters/hockey in general benefit decently by him getting a trophy.

That doesn't make him the best, just arguably the best in any given year.

Not to mention he has to actually score points too, as any winner of the Selke has to have.
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11-30-2011, 11:09 PM
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Bobby with an assist tonight.

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11-30-2011, 11:10 PM
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Almost 1/2 way through the game and only has about 6 mins of ice time? Whats up with him? Look disinterested?

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11-30-2011, 11:11 PM
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LOL from the main board:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Ryan#Playing_career

Look at the last paragraph in his playing career.

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11-30-2011, 11:14 PM
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As compared to Datsyuk, Kesler, Toews, and the like
I meant what does Offense have to do with winning the Selke? You said he doesnt have the offensive upside to win it?

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11-30-2011, 11:19 PM
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I hate when idiots do that.. So stupid.

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11-30-2011, 11:31 PM
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I hate when idiots do that.. So stupid.
What??

Also someone on the main board said dreger said JVR plus for Ryan

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11-30-2011, 11:35 PM
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What??

Also someone on the main board said dreger said JVR plus for Ryan
Edit a wikipedia with crap like that
And with JVR+ we'd have to send about 3.5m or so to be able to fit Ryan in under the cap..

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11-30-2011, 11:39 PM
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Edit a wikipedia with crap like that
And with JVR+ we'd have to send about 3.5m or so to be able to fit Ryan in under the cap..
3.5 million hmmm that sounds like someone on the flyers defense haha I don't know whats gonna happen but tonight sure is fun

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11-30-2011, 11:41 PM
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3.5 million hmmm that sounds like someone on the flyers defense haha I don't know whats gonna happen but tonight sure is fun
Not sure if you were just lurking or actually posting at the time of the carter trade and richards trades, but that was also a fun time

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11-30-2011, 11:44 PM
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Not sure if you were just lurking or actually posting at the time of the carter trade and richards trades, but that was also a fun time
I think I was just lurking at that point.. But i remember the hoop-la that went on. I also remember that poll where people where saying they were done with the flyers. Let's find that poll. I might have been posting at that time. Not quite sure lol

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11-30-2011, 11:45 PM
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NO! As much as i hate to say it, we need carle on the team

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11-30-2011, 11:49 PM
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And i couldn't really find the Poll, went back to a week or two before the trade and couldnt find it

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11-30-2011, 11:52 PM
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I just see trading JvR for Ryan as a lateral move.

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And i couldn't really find the Poll, went back to a week or two before the trade and couldnt find it
Lol i was searching to.. I wonder if it got deleted? Mods got any info for us?

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11-30-2011, 11:54 PM
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I just see trading JvR for Ryan as a lateral move.
I think that's crazy.. Ryan is what we hope JVR one day mirrors. Also Ryan is still developing and could become a 90 point plyer next to Giroux. I dont think JVR can max out there. Also Ryan better at defense

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11-30-2011, 11:56 PM
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Yep Ryan is what we hope JVR becomes.. But i have to say i havent really seen the Dominant game that JVR can show that often, if at all, from Ryan

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I think I was just lurking at that point.. But i remember the hoop-la that went on. I also remember that poll where people where saying they were done with the flyers. Let's find that poll. I might have been posting at that time. Not quite sure lol
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And i couldn't really find the Poll, went back to a week or two before the trade and couldnt find it
Front page.

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12-01-2011, 12:01 AM
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Front page.
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12-01-2011, 12:14 AM
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I think that's crazy.. Ryan is what we hope JVR one day mirrors. Also Ryan is still developing and could become a 90 point plyer next to Giroux. I dont think JVR can max out there. Also Ryan better at defense
Thing is, I think JvR is hopefully close to being at a level we hope for him to be at. He has shown flashes and everyone has seen it, but I think he is real close to putting it together

I just think we can acquire Ryan without JvR being involved, that's all.

Earlier I was very against the idea of including Schenn in a package, but Ryan is the kind of player you trade some of these assets to get. Maybe Schenn, maybe Voracek or Simmonds and maybe a Top 4 defensemen (I know we are thin on d-men right now, but don't let temporary injuries come between us and a 1st line stud winger like Bobby Ryan).

NOTE: I use the words hope with JvR a lot. I know Ryan is a sure thing and can only get better, but In this instance I think we can have our cake and eat it too.

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Flyers scouts at the Ducks game but word is not for who we would think, they're scouting dman Lydman..

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Flyers scouts at the Ducks game but word is not for who we would think, they're scouting dman Lydman..
Lol, Carle for Lydman

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