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12-01-2011, 08:48 AM
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I can't believe some people actually want Roy over guys like Carlyle and other proven NHL coaches. Some folks really overvalue the job he's done in juniors. Plus he's never even coached at the AHL level before. Making him our coach would be a disaster and turn our team into a 3 ring circus. Making him GM would be probably the darkest day in habs history.

The guy is a hot head and isn't suited for this market. People need to just accept it. And I'm positive if they were ever stupid enough to hire him it wouldn't end well. How people can actually support us acquiring him as our coach I'll never understand, but then in the same breath the same folks usually bash Martin who is a proven coach. Maybe he has lost the locker room at this point and a change up might be worthwhile however Roy is the last person to look to in order to do that. I don't want this team to fail or be ruined so I would never wish Roy becomes coach, but some part of me wants to see it happen to see the end result. I won't deny that it's intriguing I just don't see it ever working out.

Can you imagine the first time he and one of our good players have it out? Say if he and Plekanec didn't get along? I don't want some hot headed idiot ruining our team by being a hot headed idiot. Roy is one and always will be. Winning the cup with us as a goalie does not make you a good coach/GM.
Well he just so happens to be a good GM & coach and has been for years now. Maybe a hot-head is what Montreal needs right now. JM and Carbo were way too relaxed and unemotional and unable to get a fire going under the teams arse. JM and Carbo have both been known to be poor communicators. Roy is the opposite in every way. But most importantly he likes his teams to play tough offensive hockey. This is the type of coach we need to rival against the Bruins.

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12-01-2011, 08:50 AM
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the duck are trolling us by firing their coach after a win against us.

Is it a fire martin thread?

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12-01-2011, 08:53 AM
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I was sure Boudreau would never get a NHL gig again..
Seriously? The guy had like a .700% record with the Caps. No matter how much of that you might ascribe to the talented group of players he had, it was pretty obvious he wasn't going to be out of work for long.

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Well he just so happens to be a good GM & coach and has been for years now. Maybe a hot-head is what Montreal needs right now. JM and Carbo were way too relaxed and unemotional and unable to get a fire going under the teams arse. JM and Carbo have both been known to be poor communicators. Roy is the opposite in every way. But most importantly he likes his teams to play tough offensive hockey. This is the type of coach we need to rival against the Bruins.
Great point. And it is true that Roy has been very good at his job. I guess the Avalanche don't know more than some posters here. Because it seems to me he was offered the job just last year to coach.

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12-01-2011, 09:04 AM
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Yes, HEY LETS FIRE MARTIN ! Get this boring mother****er of a coach so far away from this team as possible, and at the same time take Handy Andy PG along with him.
just went right over your head

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12-01-2011, 09:06 AM
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Well he just so happens to be a good GM & coach and has been for years now. Maybe a hot-head is what Montreal needs right now. JM and Carbo were way too relaxed and unemotional and unable to get a fire going under the teams arse. JM and Carbo have both been known to be poor communicators. Roy is the opposite in every way. But most importantly he likes his teams to play tough offensive hockey. This is the type of coach we need to rival against the Bruins.
How was Carbo unemotional?? Do you not remember those post game rants when the team wouldnt perform? Even behind the bench he would pull tantrums on occasion.

Not being a good communicator and emotion are 2 completely different things.

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12-01-2011, 09:22 AM
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By Bruce Boudreau.

Ok PG you just sit back and watch the Habs get knocked out if the playoffs because the players have given up on JM.

I want Carlyle so bad in Montreal.
Carlyle has a terrible record with Perry, Getzlaf, Selanne, Koivu, Fowler and Ryan. What do you think he would be able to do with this pile of under-performing, less talented forwards in Montreal?

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12-01-2011, 09:23 AM
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Carlyle has a terrible record with Perry, Getzlaf, Selanne, Koivu, Fowler and Ryan. What do you think he would be able to do with this pile of under-performing, less talented forwards in Montreal?
actually he has a great record in his coaching stint in Anaheim, but yes I agree after last night why the heck would Carlyle want to coach this hockey team!!

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Now this is strange. When was the last time a team fired their coach after a win?

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Now this is strange. When was the last time a team fired their coach after a win?
Us lol. Guy Carbonneau...

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Us lol. Guy Carbonneau...
Damn why do I keep thinking it was after a loss? Guess I just assumed lol.

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I think Patrick Roy would be a great coach for Montreal.. (serious)

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if habs went 0-3 after the west coast trip....maybe Martin will get fired

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I guess R Carlyle slipped under your radar huh ?


Until being fired he had a record of 273 wins and 182 losses over a 6 year span with the Ducks.

He made the playoffs 5 out of 6 years and he has won one more cup than JM.
Right, because I'm not interested in him, it must mean he slipped under my radar...Gotcha.

When's the last time the team Gomez played for missed the POs?? Hmmm, never. So, I guess we're safe then.

Despite all the great things you just mentioned, didn't Carlyle get fired?

I do not want him.

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Just like some players become grossly overrated (such as Peter Forsberg), others become grossly underrated (such as Patrick Lalime).
Peter Forsberg was overrated????????????
Now I've heard it all.

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12-01-2011, 10:04 AM
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if habs went 0-3 after the west coast trip....maybe Martin will get fired
nah

PG will use the hot weather as an excuse
We are not used to it

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actually he has a great record in his coaching stint in Anaheim, but yes I agree after last night why the heck would Carlyle want to coach this hockey team!!
I am speaking of his record this season.

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12-01-2011, 10:57 AM
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They're going to bash the coach regardless. I don't see the point.
Who bashes a winner? Give me a break. Bring me a winning coach. Don't quote Martin's record. He's not a winner. I've never seen him do what it takes to win.. to Martin "doing what it takes to win" = putting Darche on the ice because he's a "hard worker". Honestly, that's great to honour a hard worker and all, but that's not doing what it takes to win. I used to believe longterm that would get you somewhere.. but now I'm realizing how useless it is to reward hard work if that hard work isn't producing results..

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12-01-2011, 11:02 AM
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Same type of talent JM had in Ottawa no ? That got him and them what ?
ZIP !
With one important difference: goaltending. Tahat is, RC had it and JM did not.

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12-01-2011, 11:05 AM
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Well he just so happens to be a good GM & coach and has been for years now. Maybe a hot-head is what Montreal needs right now. JM and Carbo were way too relaxed and unemotional and unable to get a fire going under the teams arse. JM and Carbo have both been known to be poor communicators. Roy is the opposite in every way. But most importantly he likes his teams to play tough offensive hockey. This is the type of coach we need to rival against the Bruins.
Have you forgotten what happened when the Habs had a hot-head behind the bench?

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With one important difference: goaltending. Tahat is, RC had it and JM did not.
Stop being an apologist!!


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12-01-2011, 11:36 AM
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Yes, HEY LETS FIRE MARTIN ! Get this boring mother****er of a coach so far away from this team as possible, and at the same time take Handy Andy PG along with him.
Voice of reason right here folks.

As a huge Jacques Martin fan, even I know it's probably time for a "new system", but to solely put all the blame on the coach is shortsighted. The players just aren't executing the game plan. Will it change if the team is healthy? Who knows.

But no coach can succeed in the long term when their veterans, the ones that are supposed to lead the team, are a shell of their former selves.

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I understand it, but it infuriates me.
I don't understand it. There is nothing to understand. It's a stupid idea.

The people of Quebec and Montreal are choosing "being special," over results.

If you want to support a policy whereby the most qualified individuals do not get into the proper positions of authority over your team, but are excluded from the conversation because of something irrelevant to the performance of their job, then you do not get to complain about results. You get to lie in the bed you made: with a GM and coach who very possibly cannot get the job done.

But thank god they speak french. That way, everyone can clearly understand their back-pedaling and excuses for poor results.

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Peter Forsberg was overrated????????????
Now I've heard it all.
According to people on this forum, Forsberg is better than Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux and Gordie Howe combined.

He is overrated. Great player, yes, but overrated.

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Voice of reason right here folks.

As a huge Jacques Martin fan, even I know it's probably time for a "new system", but to solely put all the blame on the coach is shortsighted. The players just aren't executing the game plan. Will it change if the team is healthy? Who knows.

But no coach can succeed in the long term when their veterans, the ones that are supposed to lead the team, are a shell of their former selves.
Ahhh yes the players are to blame. The whole team just decided to do their own thing because why else would we be losing? It couldn't have anything to do with JM, the man is just pure success and coaches circles around everyone. The entire team is to blame, not JM.

All those veterans just don't know JMs brilliance.

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