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12-02-2011, 04:37 AM
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Teemu Laakso

Would anyone else put in a claim for him?

Yes Nashville fans have been complaining about him left and right, but he's a warm body, a fringe NHLer, a cheap cap hit (600k), and we could not have Walker sitting @ 1.7M on our cap.

Waive him ourselves once we return to full strength.

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12-02-2011, 06:04 AM
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Who?
6th defenseman from NSH that became expendable.
http://predators.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471741
http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=1072

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What makes you think that he would perform better than Bourdon, Mashall?

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Eh. I'd wait to see if Walker is claimed before I put a claim in (if that is even possible).

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No thanks, were already in contract cap hell.

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12-02-2011, 07:44 AM
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No thanks, were already in contract cap hell.
Right, so taking 600k instead of Walker's 1.7M would be a bad thing for the cap... right?

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Right, so taking 600k instead of Walker's 1.7M would be a bad thing for the cap... right?
Contract cap, referring to the 50 max contracts, not the salary cap.

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As far as this "contract cap hell" situation that people are referencing, are the Flyers any different from other teams? The only way I can figure out how to do this is looking at each team on CapGeek which I do not feel like doing. I looked at the Pens and they have the same as the Flyers (49). I'm not saying this is ok or anything, I just want to know how other teams operate. So basically are the majority teams at 49-50 or are most lower, and how much lower?

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As far as this "contract cap hell" situation that people are referencing, are the Flyers any different from other teams? The only way I can figure out how to do this is looking at each team on CapGeek which I do not feel like doing. I looked at the Pens and they have the same as the Flyers (49). I'm not saying this is ok or anything, I just want to know how other teams operate. So basically are the majority teams at 49-50 or are most lower, and how much lower?
If I were GM, I'd sign multiple players to a single contract!

"Ok Jaromir, Jakub, I'm going to need both of your signatures right here."
"huh?"
"Just sign it!"

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12-02-2011, 08:20 AM
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If I were GM, I'd sign multiple players to a single contract!

"Ok Jaromir, Jakub, I'm going to need both of your signatures right here."
"huh?"
"Just sign it!"
Huh?

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12-02-2011, 08:31 AM
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Huh?
was needed?

or did I just do a terrible job of putting my thoughts into words? haha

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was needed?

or did I just do a terrible job of putting my thoughts into words? haha
I got what you're saying, one contract for several players. Instead of 49 contracts we get down to 25 or so.

Now what we need to do is sign one player to multiple contracts. One player, three contracts.

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I got what you're saying, one contract for several players. Instead of 49 contracts we get down to 25 or so.

Now what we need to do is sign one player to multiple contracts. One player, three contracts.
We're onto something...

Revolutionizing NHL GMing, one idea at a time!

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I got what you were saying but I wasn't sure if it was making fun of me or an actual response to what I was writing. I just want to know what other teams contract situations are. Ha.

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I got what you were saying but I wasn't sure if it was making fun of me or an actual response to what I was writing. I just want to know what other teams contract situations are. Ha.
oh ok gotcha. No, not making fun of you at all. I apologize for it not answering your question in the slightest haha. It was just sorta related, and it made me think of my stupid joke.

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oh ok gotcha. No, not making fun of you at all. I apologize for it not answering your question in the slightest haha. It was just sorta related, and it made me think of my stupid joke.
Haha. Ok.

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As far as this "contract cap hell" situation that people are referencing, are the Flyers any different from other teams? The only way I can figure out how to do this is looking at each team on CapGeek which I do not feel like doing. I looked at the Pens and they have the same as the Flyers (49). I'm not saying this is ok or anything, I just want to know how other teams operate. So basically are the majority teams at 49-50 or are most lower, and how much lower?
All teams fall in between 45-49 now that we've rid ourselves of a contract (for the second time this season). Pens have 46, btw. Those still in junior slide, and aren't counted towards the 50-limit.

On Laakso, I would have preferred him over Walker due to the risk of being stuck with dead cap space, but if I have understood how these things work, Homer couldn't know that Laakso would be on waivers until after he'd made the recall for Walker. Plus, there is of course a chance that Laakso is snagged by some other team below us in the standings and I'm sure Homer (and Lavy) really want a 7th d for this road trip, especially now that we have both Bourdon and Marshall playing.

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No to Laakso.. Not worth the ca hit. I would rather have Walker then him... that's saying a lot.

Our contract number thing is overblown. Like someone else said most are in the mid-40's to high 40's. I know the ducks are at 49 right now. New York Rangers has 47 I believe. KIngs have 48 or 49.. Everyone is really high.


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No to Laakso.. Not worth the ca hit. I would rather have Walker then him... Lets saying a lot.

Our contract number thing is overblown. Like someone else said most are in the mid-40's to high 40's. I know the ducks are at 49 right now. New York Rangers has 47 I believe. KIngs have 48 or 49.. Everyone is really high.
There is a world of difference between being at 49, and being on 50 though.

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There is a world of difference between being at 49, and being on 50 though.
I understand. But every team is pretty close that's all I was saying, hey and now we are at 49!

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So I actually took the time to look it up because I was curious:

Anaheim 48
Boston 47
Buffalo 47
Calgary 49
Carolina 46
Chicago 46
Colorado 45
Columbus 44
Dallas 48
Detroit 49
Edmonton 47
Florida 48
LA 48
Minny 48
Montreal 49
Nashville 46
NJ 48
NYI 44
NYR 48
Ottawa 45
Philadelphia 48 and Couturier
Phoenix 49
Pitt 46
SJ 48
STL 48
TB 44
Toronto 49
Vancouver 49
Washington 45
Winnipeg 45

Average = 47.03333333

I took the total number of contracts and just removed all the slide contracts to arrive at these numbers. We of course have Couturier, a slide contract, that is actually on the team, so he counts. There are some others in the league of course, like RNH, and Larsson. I went ahead and double checked every team that was at 49, because I was curious if they had a slide contract that WAS counting that would put them at 50, and there was no such occurrence.

So prior to a couple days ago, we were the only team to be operating at 50 contracts.

Trying to think of some pros here: Of course if you are at 50 contracts, you have 5 more "assets" than a team at 45 contracts does, which you could potentially use in a trade or something. However, as stated before, you HAVE to make a move for every move want to make, and it may not always be as easy as waiving someone to have them claimed. You might have to "pay" someone to take a contract from you (thinking Gauthier here).

So if you're at 50 contracts and you want to make a trade, you may have to trade away someone else first, and you may have to give up something up for that to happen. So it's trading an asset, so that you can be rid of an asset, so that you can add the asset you really want haha.

My conclusion...it just isn't a good idea to be at 50 contracts. Nobody else is afterall; and like in Business, if Homer were an innovator, we'd be seeing copycats immediately, and we are not.

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My conclusion...it just isn't a good idea to be at 50 contracts.
I like this conclusion of yours. Hopefully Homer comes to the same conclusion.

Aw hell, who am I kidding, we'll be right back here next year.


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No to Laakso.. Not worth the ca hit. I would rather have Walker then him... that's saying a lot.
I haven't seen Laakso since he was in the WJC, but he was solid prospect. He would certainly be worth considering.

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Wasn't he waived yesterday?

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