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12-03-2011, 01:59 PM
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And we're 4 or 5 more of his powerplay goals from being in the playoff picture right now.
He has 0 PP goals this year.

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Gauthier said at the golf tournament "he shouldn't miss too many games". Now we're looking at half the season without a #1 defenseman and powerplay quarterback and we're supposed to not assume the worst?
Well it could be an ensemble of factors. Misinformations, to couple of setbacks, to trying to reassure everybody.....Gauthier doesn't talk a lot, so you can't expect him to be good at it...

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12-03-2011, 02:01 PM
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I didn't know that trades were free.
Andy ,

as i already said we gave up

2- second round picks
1 -3rd round pick
5th round pick


SO FAR..try to plug the Markov hole.....

The players we gave those picks up for are also long gone ....

THE HOLE gets deeper


Your saying expect another trade? How much deeper we gotta go .


what could have two 2nd's/one 3rd and a 5th got us on the trade market today?

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12-03-2011, 02:01 PM
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Some guy on Team 990 claims to have inside knowledge that a more serious procedure will be performed, and Markov is definitely gone for the year.

Yeah, it's only a radio caller but I would not rule him being out for an even more extended period.

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12-03-2011, 02:01 PM
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It's a minor surgery. Nothing much. He will miss another month.

(sarcasm smily)

Kool aid. Mmmm...

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12-03-2011, 02:01 PM
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it's alright, keep trading assets and then we complain we have no depth coming up or the ones that turned out solid are playing elsewhere
It's funny because Habenaros in the other thread said that this is what Gauthier should precisely be doing to solve the inexperience on defense problem. I responded to hime saying that he will probably complain that we traded an asset for a player..and low and behold, this is exactly what he has done...all in the span of 30 minutes.

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Do we have any info at all on this "minor surgery". What's Markov's actual problem with his knee?
The goal of the surgery is to remove fragments of ligaments that have hardened.

His knee is apparently solid enough to play a game.

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12-03-2011, 02:02 PM
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Andy ,

as i already said we gave up

2- second round picks
1 -3rd round pick
5th round pick


SO FAR..try to plug the Markov hole.....

The players we gave those picks up for are also long gone ....

THE HOLE gets deeper


Your saying expect another trade? How much deeper we gotta go .
You just blamed gauthier in the other thread for not making a move for more experienced D and now you are whining that they wasted assets when they have done so.

So basically get mad that they don;t trade assets to fill holes and then get mad when they trade assets to fill holes. Great reasoning.

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I think both are skating, but with no contact. I don't either will be back before Jan
Yikes.

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Mr. Markov, seriously please get rid of this clown Molson!!! Please

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I don't get why people bash the re-sign...if he's on the LTIR the cap gets added to the cap giving us the cap space. If he retires from the injury the cap hit comes off as well. The only real way his signing will hurt the Habs is if he returns and plays like Dandenault.
More than that; he's probably a 7 million player when he plays. Even if he only returns next year, the Habs will be icing a 7 million player on a 5.75 cap hit, a serious saving. And in the meantime, like you point out: LITR.

Sounds like the kind of calculated long-term gamble that good GMs make, but make the fans want to fire the guy in the short term.

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He has 0 PP goals this year.
Well, he started the year with an 8 game suspension and plays for the worst team in the league. Pretty sure he'd have at least 3-5 right now if he were playing here. He was 5th overall in the NHL for points for defensemen last year.

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I don't understand why people were so upset about signing Markov over the Wiz. When Markov is forced to retire at the end of the season it won't hurt us going forward, while the Wiz will have an atrocious contract for years.

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12-03-2011, 02:05 PM
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Some guy on Team 990 claims to have inside knowledge that a more serious procedure will be performed, and Markov is definitely gone for the year.

Yeah, it's only a radio caller but I would not rule him being out for an even more extended period.
I was saying yesterday , some we're laughing tho...He is gone for year...

Can we believe anything the Habs management say now about Markov ?????? 3 weeks? HA ...

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12-03-2011, 02:07 PM
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He has 0 PP goals this year.
Markov has 0 PP goals too...

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I don't understand why people were so upset about signing Markov over the Wiz. When Markov is forced to retire at the end of the season it won't hurt us going forward, while the Wiz will have an atrocious contract for years.
Simple really, just watch any Habs powerplay.

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I'd fire Gauthier and Martin and revamp the entire media team of the Habs, the secrecy is no way to treat your fan base and then this.... Really the Habs were the class of the league, but now...

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You just blamed gauthier in the other thread for not making a move for more experienced D and now you are whining that they wasted assets when they have done so.

So basically get mad that they don;t trade assets to fill holes and then get mad when they trade assets to fill holes. Great reasoning.
stop mixing up my posts.


What i said is the truth....

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12-03-2011, 02:08 PM
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stop mixing up my posts.


What i said is the truth....
No you complained that the inexperienced D was Gauthier's fault and you blamed him for not making a move after the injuries to go get experienced D.

Now you are complaining because he trades assets to fix holes.

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More than that; he's probably a 7 million player when he plays. Even if he only returns next year, the Habs will be icing a 7 million player on a 5.75 cap hit, a serious saving. And in the meantime, like you point out: LITR.

Sounds like the kind of calculated long-term gamble that good GMs make, but make the fans want to fire the guy in the short term.
Wait... You're saying that if he only comes back next year, after missing almost 2 full seasons, he'll perform like a 7 million dollar player? Are you serious?

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Minor surgery??? Is it a root canal or something ?

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How could the Habs brass have signed Markov to such a large contract in light of the fact of his knee problems? There is a surgery being done to clean up debris, his rehab has caused this? What will a hit do to him? I think he is done, I like Markov as a player but his career as an NHLer is clearly in jeopardy, he probably won't be back at all this season and our blue line is in need of some major help. Some hard decisions will have to be made in the next couple weeks, good luck Pierre.

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Markov has 0 PP goals too...
One has zero cap hit we're not even competitive. Markov would make us a bubble team so I really don't care. If we were contenders I'd be concerned but c'mon. We're not looking good either way.

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I am not expecting to see him back with the team anymore this year (2011)... and maybe this 2011-12 season.

Hopefully, Spacek and Campoli are back soon, OR/AND Gauthier can deal for a strong, physical d-man in a near future.

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