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12-04-2011, 10:37 PM
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Defense often stems from Offense.
Defense never stems from offense.
Defense might become less important due to a powerful offense, but you never become better defensively due to the offense.
Your offense however, does become better from having better defensemen that know how to carry and pass the puck.

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12-04-2011, 10:40 PM
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The whole point of getting it scoped is so there are no further setbacks and stop the swelling. Loose bodies inside the knee caused swelling and probably was the source of the August setback.

the silver lining of this cloud is that the longer he is out, the stronger his ACL gets limiting the possibility of re-injury.
What I highlighted makes absolutely no sense at all.

An ACL is not like a muscle where it can be strengthened.

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12-04-2011, 11:12 PM
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What I highlighted makes absolutely no sense at all.

An ACL is not like a muscle where it can be strengthened.
Tendons and ligaments absolutely can be strengthened. They take very much longer to do so, however. Don't believe me?

Try doing this:



Now that you've tried this, you may notice that your fingers have swollen to the size of bratwursts, and you are in an incredible amount of pain.

Why isn't he?

Hmmmm...there's more to this than we previously thought!

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12-04-2011, 11:44 PM
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Any update on Ryan White?

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12-05-2011, 12:17 AM
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Tendons and ligaments absolutely can be strengthened. They take very much longer to do so, however. Don't believe me?

Try doing this:



Now that you've tried this, you may notice that your fingers have swollen to the size of bratwursts, and you are in an incredible amount of pain.

Why isn't he?

Hmmmm...there's more to this than we previously thought!
The role of a ligament in the human body is to provide stability to joints. They can stretch very slightly but cannot contract. Ligaments are not elastic.

Exercise does strengthen muscles that will take the strain off of ligaments.

What your video showed was the use of tendons in the hand, not ligaments. And yes, there are muscles in the fingers. Those tendons in the fingers transfer the pull of muscle to a bone.

But if you think that you can work out your ligaments and tendons to make them stronger, more power to you. (Really you will be strengthening your muscles so that will benefit them.)

You could take some supplements that help build up collagen levels.

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12-05-2011, 05:50 AM
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What I highlighted makes absolutely no sense at all.

An ACL is not like a muscle where it can be strengthened.
He had an ACL transplanted into his knee, time is what heals the attachements and makes them stronger.

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12-05-2011, 06:26 AM
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Well, uh... I guess we could draft high after that... lol.
Or we can offer Suter all the money he wants if he hits UFA.

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12-05-2011, 06:57 AM
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What an excellent article by Dave Stubbs .. I recommend you all read it

http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/column...814/story.html

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12-05-2011, 07:13 AM
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What I highlighted makes absolutely no sense at all.

An ACL is not like a muscle where it can be strengthened.
The idea is that it is better attached to the bones and fully healed.

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12-05-2011, 08:52 AM
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How can anybody think this is good news? This is very disappointing news imo. Another 3-5 weeks...and at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 5 weeks. What a joke. I like Markie, but what a joke this is.
I don't fully agree if the surgery is only to clean-up some hardened ligaments, it's really minor. 1 week and he's training again.

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12-05-2011, 10:02 AM
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Plekanec est absent pour des raisons familiales...

his wife is pregnant and might deliver today.
So expect him to miss tomorrow's game?


Gionta vient de quitter l'entraînement... (about 20 min ago)
Gionta is back on ice (5 min ago)


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12-05-2011, 10:07 AM
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Plekanec est absent pour des raisons familiales...

his wife is pregnant and might deliver today.
So expect him to miss tomorrow's game?


Gionta vient de quitter l'entraînement... (about 20 min ago)
Wow. At least it's happening against Columbus.

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12-05-2011, 10:10 AM
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Wow. At least it's happening against Columbus.
Gionta is back, seems to be equipment problem ^^

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12-05-2011, 10:11 AM
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Toutes mes Felicitations à Tomas Plekanec et à son épouse, les heureux parents d'un beau garçon! maman et fiston se portent bien!


Plekanec's wife gave birth last night

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Let's hope he's good to go for domani!

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12-05-2011, 10:16 AM
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What an excellent article by Dave Stubbs .. I recommend you all read it

http://www.faceoff.com/hockey/column...814/story.html
... and here's why Stubbs in an idiot, and a terrible journalist :

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You wouldn’t wish on your worst enemy the rehab program Markov has endured or the uncertainty he’s lived with the past year and a half.
Is he ****ing kidding me? Collecting an enormous paycheck while doing rehab, and having all the perks of being a famous athlete in Montreal? Things like this just make me sick.

Hey Stubbs, maybe walk through the childrens hospital sometime, take a tour through the cancer ward, maybe take a short walk where the terminally ill are, and then rethink what a pile of rubbish you wrote.

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12-05-2011, 10:18 AM
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Do you think Pleks baby came out with a goatee and turtleneck?

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12-05-2011, 10:22 AM
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Do you think Pleks baby came out with a goatee and turtleneck?
Photoshop op

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... and here's why Stubbs in an idiot, and a terrible journalist :



Is he ****ing kidding me? Collecting an enormous paycheck while doing rehab, and having all the perks of being a famous athlete in Montreal? Things like this just make me sick.

Hey Stubbs, maybe walk through the childrens hospital sometime, take a tour through the cancer ward, maybe take a short walk where the terminally ill are, and then rethink what a pile of rubbish you wrote.

*******.
Wow, forget your meds today? Only Habs fans are this insane about their injured players...

You are very selective in your quote process...you have your opinion, and I have mine, but man come on...

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12-05-2011, 10:53 AM
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Any update on Ryan White?
I saw from Renaud Lavoie that he is skating on his own.

Per @Renhockey 'He's skating on his own. @toobigtohandle: Does anyone have an update on Ryan White??"'

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12-05-2011, 11:02 AM
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Anyone know if Spacek and/or Campoli are practicing still? Contact, no contact? OP says practiced Nov 29th, are they still practicing with the team?

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12-05-2011, 11:05 AM
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Anyone know if Spacek and/or Campoli are practicing still? Contact, no contact? OP says practiced Nov 29th, are they still practicing with the team?
Campoli is skating with a contact jersey, Space Goat without. (info from John Lu)

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12-05-2011, 11:10 AM
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Campoli should be close then. There seems to be contradictory info of HIO...they say Campolu has a non contact jersey.

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12-05-2011, 11:22 AM
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Campoli should be close then. There seems to be contradictory info of HIO...they say Campolu has a non contact jersey.
Unless they edited it, I think the line you read states that only Spacek is wearing a non-contact jersey:

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Chris Campoli and Jaro Spacek (in a no-hit jersey) are skating
John Lu and MAG both have Campoli wearing regular colours.

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12-05-2011, 11:27 AM
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I can't wait to get Camps back !

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