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12-05-2011, 03:37 PM
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The Habs lost some of their worst games against bottom feeders like the Isles, Anaheim and Colorado.

Sanford could steal one for the Jackets.

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12-05-2011, 03:47 PM
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Hey cbjgirl, what do you think about Brassard? Is it a case of being not handled well by coaching or is he simply no good? Would he be a nice fit with the Habs?

Thanks for passing by btw
Blue Jackets season in a (really big) nutshell...

Game 1 line-up:
Prospal - Carter - Nash (looked pretty good together, then Carter got sick, then broke his foot and missed many games)
Umberger - Vermette - Atkinson (Umberger and Vermette looked like complete crap for at least a month at the beginning of this season. Vermette's 1st goal of the season on 11/15, Umberger had one on 10/25 then the next on 11/19)
Brassard - Johansen - MacKenzie (trying to have a 3rd scoring line with a rookie in the middle)
Calvert - Pahlsson - Dorsett (the "checking" line)

Tyutin - Martinek
Methot - Clitsome
Russell - Savard

(ideal here would have been Wisniewski with Tyutin, then slide all others on the right down one spot - at least I think that is what the coaches were planning on)

Mason in net

Huselius we knew would be out until December or so, Boll had a broken thumb, Wisniewski was suspended (for 8 games).

So, Umberger, Vermette, Brassard, Calvert, and Johansen were not scoring as much as the coaching staff was depending on. The defense was getting pushed around - A LOT.

The plan was supposed to be "be a high pressure / puck moving offensive team". What they got was a defensive scattered mess with everyone leaving the goalie out to dry (now Mason is not completely blameless here though - but a large portion of the early season problems were in front of him - coupled with the fact that both Dekanich and Sanford (goalies 2 and 3 on the depth-chart) were both injured.)

So, the coaches/management did the following:
1. Trade for Letestu from Pittsburgh - we thought for sure at that point that one of Brassard or Vermette would be out the door very soon after that. It still hasn't happened.

2. Move Johansen to wing to take some pressure off him. He had been playing to be very defensively responsible and therefore had almost no offense to his game. He starting lighting things up very quickly after the switch to wing.

3. Trade Russell for Nikitin - gained size on the back-end, replaced Martinek to some extent (he's out with a concussion and has been since 10/21). This one looks like a win/win for both clubs.

4. After the Philly beat-down, took some time and changed the system to be more defensively responsible. So now the goal is to clog up the middle and forecheck like madmen (except the first line of course - they don't do that, Vinnie is a bit too slow and Carter and Nash don't appear to like to forecheck).


I think Brassard's problems are the following:
1. Johansen is better than he is in almost all facets of the game. (I can't wait to see what this kid does after he gains his "man weight", he could easily carry 15-20 more pounds on his frame)

2. With the acquisition of Carter, and Johansen joining the team, there went a center spot, especially since Brassard does not have the best face-off percentage.

3. Vermette, even when playing crappy offensively, can still perform better than Brassard when it comes to the defensive side of the game as both a center and a winger.

I think Brassard is best suited to be a 2nd line center. There have been rumors on our board about off-ice behavior that could be having negative effects (residual/similar stuff as with the Commodore situation last year).

My guess is that Arniel doesn't like it when players aren't being professional (i.e. if you show up drunk and/or hung-over at practice he's going to get really pissed off - Commodore rumors from last season)

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12-05-2011, 03:57 PM
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How the heck is that a team close to the salary cap? Awful. We better win this one.
Part of it would be Brassard (3.2 million) and Mason (2.9 million) both being grossly overpaid relative to their performances.

Part of it would be injuries - Huselius (4.75 million) being (at least temporarily) replaced with Prospal (2.5 million).

Part of it would be buyouts Commodore (1.39 million) and Westcott (0.6 million) - Duvie is off the books after this year - finally.

Part of it would be potential rookie bonuses Johansen (1.075 million).

Above numbers are cap hits from Capgeek.

It adds up. Columbus also has to pay a bit of a premium to get free agents.

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12-05-2011, 04:06 PM
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He used to play center, yes. Don't know how far you have to go though, Calgary, LA or Manchester.
Sorry I should have been more clearer, Cammy has only played LW since moving to the wing from Center.

I believe he was drafted as centre, played centre with Manchester and the Kings, but moved to LW when traded to Calgary.

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The Wiz is getting a hat trick.
You mean the one-goal Wisniewski? The minus-13 James Wisniewski? You know he's just going to add to his penalty minutes, don't you?

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12-05-2011, 05:07 PM
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if the Habs lose this one they simply do not deserve to make the playoff. simply put. win, no excuses.

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12-05-2011, 05:20 PM
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Looking forward to this game. I'm pretty sure that this will be the first time this season that Cole, AK, Patches and Eller are all in the lineup. These are the key "big" forwards that I feel will make or break our season.

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12-05-2011, 05:53 PM
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Hopefully Columbus comes out with some energy so they wake the Habs up, I fear this could be an ugly game with the way they play against bottom seeded teams.

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Sorry I should have been more clearer, Cammy has only played LW since moving to the wing from Center.

I believe he was drafted as centre, played centre with Manchester and the Kings, but moved to LW when traded to Calgary.
Yeah, I knew what you meant. Just clarifying for Price2Pleks.

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Hopefully Columbus comes out with some energy so they wake the Habs up, I fear this could be an ugly game with the way they play against bottom seeded teams.
Habs are a bottom tier team anyway.

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6-1 habs

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Cammy with DD and Cole?

WTF Martin

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Cammy with DD and Cole?

WTF Martin
Why not ?

They played well together during that trip.

MaxPac is a good fit with Plek and Gionta

And we know that A.K. Moen and Eller have good chemistry together.

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12-05-2011, 09:58 PM
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Why not ?

They played well together during that trip.

MaxPac is a good fit with Plek and Gionta

And we know that A.K. Moen and Eller have good chemistry together.
I love AK with Eller

Its just that the Pac DD Cole has been hot

Unless its more a duo thing ( DD+Cole), then why not

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if the Habs lose this one they simply do not deserve to make the playoff. simply put. win, no excuses.
Columbus beat Detroit and Buffalo, I guess they don't deserve to make the POs either.

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3-1 Habs
2(Patches)& Eller

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I love AK with Eller

Its just that the Pac DD Cole has been hot

Unless its more a duo thing ( DD+Cole), then why not
We have lots (too many) small players on the top two lines. At least the two biggest wingers - Max Pac and Cole are not on the same line. Ideally, Gionta should play on a third line and A.K. on a top-two.

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Its nice to have options with your line combos for a change. If things arent going well, you can put DD between Cole and pacioretty. That's worked well. Akost is a guy you can throw with cammy and pleks if they need a boost. That line has had success in the past.

Leblanc seems like the type of guy you can put on a grinding line or an attacking line. Moen has proven that he can move up in the lineup as well.

The options are plentiful... now we just need to make sure the D can get it on their tape more often than not

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Who's starting? Price or Budaj?

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I love AK with Eller

Its just that the Pac DD Cole has been hot

Unless its more a duo thing ( DD+Cole), then why not
One of the first things I remember martin saying when he got hired was that he was a believer in duos. DD and Cole seems to be a duo that he has in cement. The others are sort of up in the air but I suspect he would like AK/Eller to be another duo. Pleks/Cammy is a duo that we have seen alot of in the past but that one has been shifted around due to injuries.

Gionta/Gomez is a cemented duo as well

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Columbus beat Detroit and Buffalo, I guess they don't deserve to make the POs either.
Detroit and Buffalo are respectively 7th and 16th in the league. They could afford a lost there. Just like Habs could afford one against the Islanders back then. But now they have no choice to go on a winning streak or it will be too late. We are losing precious points early in this season, I am usually optimist but it's not looking too good right now. We need to get back on track soon. As weird as it sounds it looks like Toronto are for real and we're 30% past the season and they are way ahead of us. With Florida having a surprise season as well, there is not a lot of playoff spots left available for us. Habs will have to fight every points starting now to get the 8th spot because I don't see Washington missing the playoff, nor Buffalo.

So yeah, gotta get those two points against Columbus.

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Wait, that D lineup can't be serious, is it? Campoli already back, and Emelin would bench while Weber has been awful for the last 10 games?

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I love AK with Eller

Its just that the Pac DD Cole has been hot

Unless its more a duo thing ( DD+Cole), then why not
They need size with Plek and Gionta... Plek doesn't have a good stretch.

They have big wingers on each of the top3 lines.

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