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12-05-2011, 08:14 PM
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NHL Approves New Four-Conference Format For Next Season

I like it. Seems unfair for the west though.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=382065

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The plan, finalized on Monday would see four separate conferences established to replace the current two-conference, six division system.

The proposed new conferences would be arranged to accommodate both geographical proximity as well as established rivalries.

The existing Northeast division would be expanded to include the league's two Florida-based teams, making a conference of: Boston, Buffalo, Florida, Montreal, Ottawa, Tampa Bay and Toronto.

Meanwhile, the existing Atlantic Division would gain two teams for a seven-team conference including: Carolina, New Jersey, the New York Islanders, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Washington.

The Central Division would be modified to form a conference of Mid-Western teams including: Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Nashville, St. Louis, and Winnipeg.

The three Canadian teams from the Northwest Division would join a proposed Western Conference including: Anaheim, Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Jose and Vancouver.


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12-05-2011, 08:18 PM
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the first two rounds of the playoffs are going to be war. i like it.

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Speculation is that the Flyers will be with the Pens, Debbies, Rangers, Isles, Caps, and Canes

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I hated the idea at first but now rivalries might actually mean something. I'm excited.

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This setup looks like it could do a lot to boost the finances of FLA and TB.

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Speculation is that the Flyers will be with the Pens, Debbies, Rangers, Isles, Caps, and Canes
It's official.

Does anyone know the playoff setup yet?

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It's official.

Does anyone know the playoff setup yet?

First two rounds are within your division. 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3. 2 divisional winners play in conference finals.

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The competition will be fierce, but we keep all our rivalries and Washington becomes a legitimate rival.

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The added speculation is what happens with Phoenix next year and it leaves two east teams open for the possibility of expansion. Quebec, Hamilton, or Hartford are possibilities.

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The one thing I don't like with this is that I like rivalries with the Canadian teams. Only 2 games a year against Toronto, Montreal, and Boston sucks.

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The added speculation is what happens with Phoenix next year and it leaves two east teams open for the possibility of expansion. Quebec, Hamilton, or Hartford are possibilities.
Hamilton and Hartford aren't under consideration right now.

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This means we could potentially play the Rangers, Penguins, Devils 20 times in one year... (6 regular season games + 14 possible playoff games)... all that hatred... all that blood... I hope they have enough ambulances...

edit: I guess we could potentially do that now too, but I'm sure the chances are higher now.

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The one thing I don't like with this is that I like rivalries with the Canadian teams. Only 2 games a year against Toronto, Montreal, and Boston sucks.



Hamilton and Hartford aren't under consideration right now.
Nobody thought Atlanta was going to move without warning either.

I really like this. Next year will be sick looking.

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The one thing I don't like with this is that I like rivalries with the Canadian teams. Only 2 games a year against Toronto, Montreal, and Boston sucks.



Hamilton and Hartford aren't under consideration right now.

Where did you hear that? What are the possibilities then?

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I dont like it.. Why not just swap Winnipeg and Columbus or Nashville..

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Reportedly the Flyers have the easiest travel in the NHL. Perhaps this will be a minor factor in attracting free agents, especially older guys and those with families.

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The one thing I don't like with this is that I like rivalries with the Canadian teams. Only 2 games a year against Toronto, Montreal, and Boston sucks.



Hamilton and Hartford aren't under consideration right now.
It would definatley be Quebec outta those. and this new alignment makes it easier to adjust if that happens. This is good.

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I guess this works better overall for travels sake, and the playoffs more interesting but I don't know if it makes anything more fair in terms of making the playoffs.

I'm going to assume that each conference has 4 teams make the playoffs, and that they battle it out for a conference winner, which would then advance to what would be the semis against another conference. (Quick aside here; would the playoff semis be round robin from year to year, or will they always be Atlantic v NE, and Central v West?) While that's great for rivalries in the first two rounds of the playoffs, there will be a slight advantage to being in one of the conferences with 7 teams, as you only have to be in the top 4 of 7 teams, and not 8.

I mean baseball just only now evened it out to 15 teams per league, as it was an issue that it was statistically easier to get into the AL playoffs (4 of 14 teams go) as opposed to the NL (4 of 16 teams go), and the NHL seems to be doing the opposite. Then again Baseball's marathon is the regular season and a postseason berth is more of a reward, whereas in the NHL the real meat grinder is the playoffs themselves.

Bah, perhaps I'm just nitpicking a bit.

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It would definatley be Quebec outta those. and this new alignment makes it easier to adjust if that happens. This is good.

I agree but who would be the other team?

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There's a possibility of two East-coast teams in the Cup Finals (ex. Boston vs. Philly).

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The division winners would be re-seeded for the Conference Finals based on regular season points totals. This opens up the possibility that two teams that are currently in the same conference could conceivably play each other in the Stanley Cup Final.

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I guess this works better overall for travels sake, and the playoffs more interesting but I don't know if it makes anything more fair in terms of making the playoffs.

I'm going to assume that each conference has 4 teams make the playoffs, and that they battle it out for a conference winner, which would then advance to what would be the semis against another conference. (Quick aside here; would the playoff semis be round robin from year to year, or will they always be Atlantic v NE, and Central v West?) While that's great for rivalries in the first two rounds of the playoffs, there will be a slight advantage to being in one of the conferences with 7 teams, as you only have to be in the top 4 of 7 teams, and not 8.

I mean baseball just only now evened it out to 15 teams per league, as it was an issue that it was statistically easier to get into the AL playoffs (4 of 14 teams go) as opposed to the NL (4 of 16 teams go), and the NHL seems to be doing the opposite. Then again Baseball's marathon is the regular season and a postseason berth is more of a reward, whereas in the NHL the real meat grinder is the playoffs themselves.

Bah, perhaps I'm just nitpicking a bit.

I really think it's geared towards expanding to 32 teams. Isn't the NHL making the most money it's ever made? If so, what would stop the league from expanding?

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Semi-finals would be by re-seeding.

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Where did you hear that? What are the possibilities then?
In Elliotte Friedman's 30 Thoughts today, he wrote that if the Coyotes move, it's between Quebec, Las Vegas, KC and Seattle. QC, KC, and Seattle get discusses the most. With the alignment the way it's going to be, it's obvious they've left a spot open for Quebec as opposed to moving Detroit or Columbus over.

The Business board here discusses it at length at times. Hamilton and Hartford have been discussed, but they're under less consideration than other markets. Hartford still doesn't have a new arena, and aren't that much closer than when the Whalers moved out.

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Sucks for Tampa/Florida, who now have to play 1/4 their season in Canada/Boston/Buffalo.

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Semi-finals would be by re-seeding.



In Elliotte Friedman's 30 Thoughts today, he wrote that if the Coyotes move, it's between Quebec, Las Vegas, KC and Seattle. QC, KC, and Seattle get discusses the most. With the alignment the way it's going to be, it's obvious they've left a spot open for Quebec as opposed to moving Detroit or Columbus over.

The Business board here discusses it at length at times. Hamilton and Hartford have been discussed, but they're under less consideration than other markets. Hartford still doesn't have a new arena, and aren't that much closer than when the Whalers moved out.

OK cool. But those cities are all in the West. How would the conferences be even?

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Would there be much of a market in Vegas?

They should go back to the old Smythe, Norris, Adams and Patrick divisions

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