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12-06-2011, 09:30 AM
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Wait, Campoli and Spacek are going to ignite our offense? How exactly? Campoli could help on the PP from time to time, but he's not going to improve the offense by that much. Spacek's best days are behind him, he's not generating anything from the blueline.
If our PP was its regular top 10, he would be a top 10 in the league.

Our PP cost us games, 1st vs the Leafs, FLA, Oilers, and the Ducks game.

That's a 4 game swing.

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right now the habs have a useless ****in teams..period

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I would too if I was Mr. Molson

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12-06-2011, 09:32 AM
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Wait, Campoli and Spacek are going to ignite our offense? How exactly? Campoli could help on the PP from time to time, but he's not going to improve the offense by that much. Spacek's best days are behind him, he's not generating anything from the blueline.
true but you have more options.
It will not magically change the defence core.

you can take off some heat from Gorges and Subban

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12-06-2011, 09:38 AM
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The biggest problem with this team is they simply can't protect themselves. That's wearing down the fans and the players both. If we face Boston in the playoffs we can compete on the scoreboard, but not after the whistles. The "new" NHL has changed, and the Habs have yet to respond. Anyone notice how much interference is allowed as long as no stickwork is involved? Our roster is terribly suited to the way the game is currently being called. Our PP could easily be better, sure, but our PK could easily be worse. The simple fact is our team is small, soft AND takes far more penalties than we draw. Our best young players Price and Subban are fair game and getting run game in and game out. Our response it to take two more minutes for hooking.

We have the management in place to win? I can only hope this is the classic "Owner has GM's Back" kiss of death. Don't believe it, but I can hope.

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12-06-2011, 09:41 AM
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Why things wont get better with this management?
what would be different with another management?
It needs a management team that recognizes:

1) The team us currently a bubble team in terms of talent
2) The team has over-relied on UFA players, which as contracts sunset will present a problem very soon.
2) Given this situation the team needs to acquire, not release or trade away, young talent and should not deviate from this until a pattern of success emerges. The team is headed for a wall given the talent draining policies of current management.
4) They need to find good offensive players, the centre position needs to be addressed after more than a decade, and the size issue can no longer be ignored. This team is in the bottom third of the league in scoring for the third straight year and is easiy defended.

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12-06-2011, 09:41 AM
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Doesn't mean anything at all.

I fully expect that if the Canadiens miss the playoffs this season, both Gauthier and Martin will be fired. The Canadiens probably miss the playoffs if Markov returns not in top form and hence cannot save the powerplay - right now they need 68pts in 55games to make it in if 95 is the magic number.

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12-06-2011, 09:42 AM
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Considering we've been playing like the last month with 3 rookie defenseman in the lineup almost every night we are doing well considering our injury situation... if our powerplay wasn't such a joke we could've easily had 2-3 more wins.
Agreed.

Management and especially coaching are fine. Only knock on PG for me is the defense he went into the season with but you can't plan around so many injuries to defensemen I suppose. You need an experienced coach in Montreal and Martin is doing a good job. Spacek and Campoli's return will help a lot.

The PP/3 rookie D's with prominent roles is what killed us.

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12-06-2011, 09:43 AM
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See in bold, he was talking about your 1st sentence



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some people are freaking out. We are 2 pts behind the 8th spot.

here is the standing

1 PITTSBURGH ATL 28 36
2 BOSTON NE 25 35
3 FLORIDA SE 27 34
4 NY RANGERS ATL 24 33
5 PHILADELPHIA ATL 25 33
6 TORONTO NE 27 32
7 BUFFALO NE 26 29
8 OTTAWA NE 27 29
9 WASHINGTON SE 26 27
10 MONTRÉAL NE 27 27
11 WINNIPEG SE 26 26
12 NEW JERSEY ATL 25 25
13 TAMPA BAY SE 26 24
14 NY ISLANDERS ATL 24 21
15 CAROLINA SE 28 20


Yup thats true, 2 points out of 8th spot. BUT they are only 7 point ahead of dead last. They aalso have games vs CBJ, Van, NJ, NYI, Philly, NJ, Bos, Chi comming up.
Sorry but its just not looking good.

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The biggest problem with this team is they simply can't protect themselves. That's wearing down the fans and the players both. If we face Boston in the playoffs we can compete on the scoreboard, but not after the whistles. The "new" NHL has changed, and the Habs have yet to respond. Anyone notice how much interference is allowed as long as no stickwork is involved? Our roster is terribly suited to the way the game is currently being called. Our PP could easily be better, sure, but our PK could easily be worse. The simple fact is our team is small, soft AND takes far more penalties than we draw. Our best young players Price and Subban are fair game and getting run game in and game out. Our response it to take two more minutes for hooking.

We have the management in place to win? I can only hope this is the classic "Owner has GM's Back" kiss of death. Don't believe it, but I can hope.
107 Power play (9th) 12.2% (26th)
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12-06-2011, 09:46 AM
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Yup thats true, 2 points out of 8th spot. BUT they are only 7 point ahead of dead last. They aalso have games vs CBJ, Van, NJ, NYI, Philly, NJ, Bos, Chi comming up.
Sorry but its just not looking good.
CBJ, Van, NJ, NYI, Philly, NJ, Bos, Chi
Easy, tough, Tough, easy, tough, tough, tough, tough
so
lose, win, win , lose, OTL, win, win, win

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CBJ, Van, NJ, NYI, Philly, NJ, Bos, Chi
Easy, tough, Tough, easy, tough, tough, tough, tough
so
lose, win, win , lose, OTL, win, win, win


You laugh but you're most likely right. This team shows up for the big games.

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12-06-2011, 09:48 AM
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"Our GM sucks, our Coach sucks, our team sucks, but I have a dozen smokin' hot models waiting for me in my hotel room full of money so it's all good!"

That's apparently what AHMP Prez expected him to say.

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"Our GM sucks, our Coach sucks, our team sucks, but I have a dozen smokin' hot models waiting for me in my hotel room full of money so it's all good!"

That's apparently what AHMP Prez expected him to say.
Don't you find this childish for a response ?

I maybe would expect him to say, look we have one goal and that is to win ! Do i have have to add anything else to it ? Or how about no comment. PG doesn't have to use the no comment, because he never is available to comment.

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Actually, I don't think that Molson is too pleased with the current situation. I read somewhere that the Habs TV ratings were down 14%. That is a huge number. 1/6 of the viewer base is finding something better to do. I can't find a link right now, so this may be completely wrong

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Why things wont get better with this management?
what would be different with another management?
Bigger stronger maybe less injuries ?

Offensive attitude with offensive players. When you make guys like Cole and Cammy and Patches paly defense first with a trap type dump and chase hockey.....it makes no sense at all.

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Bigger stronger maybe less injuries ?

Offensive attitude with offensive players. When you make guys like Cole and Cammy and Patches paly defense first with a trap type dump and chase hockey.....it makes no sense at all.
If you've been watching the game you'll notice we send in at least two guys on the forecheck everytime, unless they've just completed a line change. The defensemen don't pinch in at the blueline very often though, so it's more of a hyrbid between offense and defense. It's better than Tampa's style though.

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12-06-2011, 10:09 AM
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Don't you find this childish for a response ?

I maybe would expect him to say, look we have one goal and that is to win ! Do i have have to add anything else to it ? Or how about no comment. PG doesn't have to use the no comment, because he never is available to comment.

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Bigger stronger maybe less injuries ?

Offensive attitude with offensive players. When you make guys like Cole and Cammy and Patches paly defense first with a trap type dump and chase hockey.....it makes no sense at all.

I dont know if its true, bigger = less injuries

Well when you lead 2-1, it helps to play the trap, otherwise things can happen like yesterday (sens/lightnings) bolts were leading 2-1 and managed to lose 4-2...
We dont have the team to play always offensive. If we didnt had the actual management, we would've ended last for several years and it might resulted like one of the 3 scenarios (CBJ, PIT/CHI or WSH)

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CBJ, Van, NJ, NYI, Philly, NJ, Bos, Chi
Easy, tough, Tough, easy, tough, tough, tough, tough
so
lose, win, win , lose, OTL, win, win, win
only 2 of those games should be easy ones, CBJ and NYI. My point was that if they dont do well over the next 6-7 games, they will much loser to last than they will to 8th spot.

and as I typed that, A thought hit me, Why are we just aiming for 8th spot. Will we really be happy just making it into the playoffs and getting smashed by the heavweights? dont we want a contender???

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only 2 of those games should be easy ones, CBJ and NYI. My point was that if they dont do well over the next 6-7 games, they will much loser to last than they will to 8th spot.

and as I typed that, A thought hit me, Why are we just aiming for 8th spot. Will we really be happy just making it into the playoffs and getting smashed by the heavweights? dont we want a contender???
CBJ started to win, so they are more dangerous than it look

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Don't people generally like the owner to stay away from hockey operations? Hire the GM, then disappear. I don't want an owner who's suggesting trades, or UFA's to our GM, that usually turns out terribly.

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He said in an interview with RDS. " We have the management team in place to win " !

He actually said " we are doing well " !! Of course the Bell is full.
This is usually the kiss of death...but...

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Actually, I don't think that Molson is too pleased with the current situation. I read somewhere that the Habs TV ratings were down 14%. That is a huge number. 1/6 of the viewer base is finding something better to do. I can't find a link right now, so this may be completely wrong
I know I wouldn't be happy if I was the Molson. The rating being down is huge and if it increased, I know he will change his tune. Winning = more money and after a bad start, thing looked like they where gonna be fine but has you can see, being 12th today is not any better then 14th or last.

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Molson was installed as President to keep an eye on the ownership group's investment. The investment is getting a return.

Sadly Molson probably won't feel pressure to make any changes until the situation is dire.
We are helpless and can only sit and watch.
100% agree. Too bad.

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I guess we can hope that it was more "kiss of death" than actual endorsement.

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