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Where Rob Ray rank in all-time enforcers?

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12-03-2011, 04:51 AM
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Where Rob Ray rank in all-time enforcers?

If you watch Buffalo Sabres telecasts you know Rob Ray is still quite a personality but you forget just how tough a guy he was.

I mean tell me a fight you've seen recently more exciting than this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaum8lLJuJU

Or know a player with the cajones to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eElspvew7rw (besides Ron Artest)

Where does history place Rob Ray among other enforcers and how do we look back on his career?

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12-03-2011, 05:08 AM
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This is how I will always remember Rob Ray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqbgt625HNY

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If you rated him among the top 10 that wouldn't be a crime. The guy could drop the gloves and could throw a hard but rapid punch at a guy. He was almost like a caged animal out there. In a way he's like Terry O'Reilly where he just blitzed and left himself open but usually got way more shots on his opponent. Domi always had trouble with him I thought, even as a Leaf fan.

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He was the fastest player all time in losing his shirt to gain unfair advantage in a fight. That alone should bring him down from any top10 considerations.
Shame though, he was a crazy beast even when fighting fair.


Rob Ray rule : a paragraph under "Rule 56. Fisticuffs" in the NHL rulebook:

A player who deliberately removes his sweater prior to participating in an altercation or who is clearly wearing a sweater that has been modified and does not conform to Rule 24A - Players' Jerseys shall be assessed a minor penalty for Unsportsmanlike Conduct and a game misconduct. This is in addition to other penalties to be assessed to the participants of an altercation.

A player who engages in fisticuffs and whose sweater is removed (completely off his torso), other than through the actions of his opponent in the altercation or through the actions of the Linesman, shall be assessed a game misconduct penalty.

A player who engages in fisticuffs and whose sweater is not properly "tied-down" (sweater properly fastened to pants), and who loses his sweater (completely off his torso) in that altercation, shall receive a game misconduct.

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I'm not sure about TOP10, too. Closer to low-end TOP10-20.

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Or know a player with the cajones to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eElspvew7rw
i don't know if you need to have any cajones to hit a drunk fan in the head several times while the fan is tied up by your teammates, to me that fits more in the roid rage department

rob ray is nothing more than a classic meat head

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I wouldn't rank him too high, personally. He was only a very small step up from the likes of Berube as a player, and although he was a great fighter he was not legendary, like a Dave Brown or anything.

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This is how I will always remember Rob Ray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqbgt625HNY
Ray should take solace in the fact that very few man can eat that many Tony Twist right hands and survive.

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Probert, Domi and Twist are certainly ahead of him by a long shot...

Then of course you had enforcers that would win only half their fights but didn't care and would drop the gloves with anyone or an entire team like Steve Durbano or Stu Grimson...

Hell, guys like Al Secord were tough as nails and weren't shy about dropping the gloves and as an added bonus could pot 50 goals to boot...

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12-06-2011, 01:19 AM
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Probert
Kocur
Grimson
Twist
Behn Wilson
Brown
Schultz
Semenko
Tiger William
Gillies
Laraque
O'Reilly
Mcsorley
Battleship Kelly
Wensink

I dunno those are all guys without really even thinking too hard on it that you culd easily put higher than Ray I think.

That list started in order but lost it pretty quick haha

EDIT: Forgot Gordie, he enfrced and played back in his day

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Probert
Kocur
Grimson
Twist
Behn Wilson
Brown
Schultz
Semenko
Tiger William
Gillies
Laraque
O'Reilly
Mcsorley
Battleship Kelly
Wensink

I dunno those are all guys without really even thinking too hard on it that you culd easily put higher than Ray I think.

That list started in order but lost it pretty quick haha

EDIT: Forgot Gordie, he enfrced and played back in his day
I'd probably throw Link Gaetz, Jack Carlson, and Paul Stewart in there as well, but they only played 68, 25, and 21 NHL games, respectively.

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I'd probably throw Link Gaetz, Jack Carlson, and Paul Stewart in there as well, but they only played 68, 25, and 21 NHL games, respectively.
I thought about Gaetz but figured his short career wasnt enough to say hes better than Ray, he was barely an NHLer.

Wendel Clark and Domi are in the same area as Ray and could be argued as better as well I think

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I thought about Gaetz but figured his short career wasnt enough to say hes better than Ray, he was barely an NHLer.

Wendel Clark and Domi are in the same area as Ray and could be argued as better as well I think
Doesn't anyone else remember that Domi always seemed to have all he could handle against Ray? Head to head battles, I don't think I give Domi the edge

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Doesn't anyone else remember that Domi always seemed to have all he could handle against Ray? Head to head battles, I don't think I give Domi the edge
That's kind of strange given that Domi had a rep as a player who could handle guys considerably bigger guys, most notably his multiple run-ins with Probert. Maybe its an issue of style. Domi was more of a plant and go guy, which left him vulnerable to a couple well placed shots.

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