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11-29-2011, 09:39 PM
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This Homestand....

Is in my mind, very big.

The next 5 home games (gonna count Anaheim because it's up the freeway, and frankly, we take over their arena) are very winnable for this team. If this team plays like it has for the last 5 periods consistently, 8 or even 10 points are possible.

After the homestand, their next 6 road games are

Boston
Columbus (yay)
Detroit
Toronto
SJ
and Chicago

before winding down in the 'Peg. There are a couple home games with the Ducks and Phoenix in there, but that's a pretty rough schedule against teams that are playing well. Let's hope we see Jekyll the next week and a half, and not that Hyde fellow.

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11-29-2011, 10:04 PM
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Every game is important. But not really worried about it. The Kings over the last two years have proved, to be a really good road team.

Not worried about road trips at all.

I bet they lose that game agaisnt Columbus as well. It has (taken Lightly, let down,) written all over it.

BUT I would bet money that is the only road game they lose out of it.


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Every game is important. But not really worried about it. The Kings over the last two years have proved, to be a really good road team.

Not worried about road trips at all.
This.

Let us not forget last years 2-6 january homestand. Which was followed up by a 6-1-1(or something close to that) grammy road trip.

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11-30-2011, 11:59 AM
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Is in my mind, very big.

The next 5 home games (gonna count Anaheim because it's up the freeway, and frankly, we take over their arena) are very winnable for this team. If this team plays like it has for the last 5 periods consistently, 8 or even 10 points are possible.
My "request" for this homestand/with bus trip to OC is 3-1-1 (with 2 W's being over mont and ana - the other 3 games any which way).

That would keep me sane for a while.

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All games are always equally important until you have won the cup, that is what coaches preach and I agree. Once you win the cup every game is important until you have locked up the presidents trophy and even then...

Still, I see us entering the playoffs in 4rth in our conference so there is room for some up and down. (oh if we stay healthy)

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11-30-2011, 02:31 PM
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All games are always equally important until you have won the cup, that is what coaches preach and I agree. Once you win the cup every game is important until you have locked up the presidents trophy and even then...

Still, I see us entering the playoffs in 4rth in our conference so there is room for some up and down. (oh if we stay healthy)

Playing to your abilities at 100% is all about developing that habit - every shift, period, game, season. You can't turn it on in the Spring and become a championship caliber team. You have to develop the habit of playing hard. You can turn it on and do some serious damage... but serious, single-minded focused teams are the ones with the cups.

What the Kings lack is that fierce and intense leader who can shape up a team mate, or a whole team, with a stare at the bench.

Yzerman could do that, Messier did it. Sakic did it by example. Do we have that guy? We don't have that guy yet. They've got a great mix of players. They play hard for each other. Reports are they get along and have a great room. But, who on this team is going to step up day in and day out throughout a game and force these guys to play hard and just refuse to lose.


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I agree that all games are important, but they need some points right now to start separating themselves. If the Kings simply have aspirations of making the playoffs, it's no bigger than any other set of games. If they aspire to win the division and be a top team, then they have to start showing it now.

Too many things can happen over the course of a season. Right now they are a pretty healthy team with a soft section of their schedule coming up and they need to take advantage of it. That's what top teams do. It's even closer in the west so far this year, and I'm foreseeing a further increase in 3 point games. A mediocre homestand before a tough road trip could really put them in a hole. Sure, they might tear it up on the road, but I would rather not rely on that given the teams they will be playing.

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11-30-2011, 02:44 PM
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I agree that all games are important, but they need some points right now to start separating themselves. If the Kings simply have aspirations of making the playoffs, it's no bigger than any other set of games. If they aspire to win the division and be a top team, then they have to start showing it now.

Too many things can happen over the course of a season. Right now they are a pretty healthy team with a soft section of their schedule coming up and they need to take advantage of it. That's what top teams do. It's even closer in the west so far this year, and I'm foreseeing a further increase in 3 point games. A mediocre homestand before a tough road trip could really put them in a hole. Sure, they might tear it up on the road, but I would rather not rely on that given the teams they will be playing.
In Today's NHL you are not going to separate from the pack. Have you looked at the Standings ?

The difference from Number one in the Conference to Number Eleven is Five points. That's with Some teams being hot for almost the entire season so far (Minn, Det, San Jose, Edmon).

Short of the Kings having a 20 and 1 stretch the next two months, It's going to be this way all season long. Scoreboard Watching anytime this season (save maybe Feb, March) is pointless to me.


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Mike Richards.

That's my pick as well.... maybe he can let that develop as the season moves along.

He seems very intense about his own play and line... but I haven't seen him push it much elsewhere. Given what has been said about his time as Captain with the Flyers, I wonder if he's really wired to call out other players?

He gives the team so much already. It's almost unfair to hand him that responsibility.

On another note, does what I posted make sense to you as well, Sydor25? It's just an attitude, a kind of "isn't this a real blast" kind of lackadaisical attitude this team takes every once and while.

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That's my pick as well.... maybe he can let that develop as the season moves along.

He seems very intense about his own play and line... but I haven't seen him push it much elsewhere. Given what has been said about his time as Captain with the Flyers, I wonder if he's really wired to call out other players?

He gives the team so much already. It's almost unfair to hand him that responsibility.
Mike Richards doesn't need a C or an A on his jersey to do what he does. Let the man play hockey.

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Agreed, I don't want him to get the C or A. That wasn't my point. But what do you think will happen if Greene gets traded?

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In Today's NHL you are not going to separate from the pack. Have you looked at the Standings ?

The difference from Number one in the Conference to Number Eleven is Five points. That's with Some teams being hot for almost the entire season so far (Minn, Det, San Jose, Edmon).
Sure, if you just look at points it is close, but extrapolate the points percentage and you get this for 82 games (ignoring division winners):
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*1.	Detroit	             22	29		108
*2.	Minnesota	24	31		106
*3.	San Jose	             21	27		105
*4.	Phoenix	             23	29		103
*5.	St. Louis	             24	30		103
*6.	Chicago	             25	31		102
*7.	Vancouver	24	29		99
*8.	Dallas	             24	29		99
*9.	Los Angeles	24	28		96
*10.	Edmonton	24	26		89
*11.	Nashville	             24	26		89
*12.	Calgary	             23	21		75
*13.	Colorado	             24	21		72
*14.	Anaheim	             23	16		57
*15.	Columbus	             24	15		51
A 19 point spread for 1st through 11th based on points percentage. San Jose moves from 9th to 3rd. Detroit moves from 5th to 1st. Hopefully Anaheim and Columbus won't be throwing away points all season and the playoff level will settle around 95 points again, but right now it looks like 99 points gets you in.

18 points separated 2nd from 11th last season, so this season seems to be setting up very similar. Minus Vancouver's crazy 117 point season.

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Agreed, I don't want him to get the C or A. That wasn't my point. But what do you think will happen if Greene gets traded?
Well first of all I don't see any scenario in the near Future were Greene is not a King.
But I am not opposed to giving Richards a letter Down the road.

Just not now, Let him play his game, do what he does.

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Sure, if you just look at points it is close, but extrapolate the points percentage and you get this for 82 games (ignoring division winners):
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*1.	Detroit	             22	29		108
*2.	Minnesota	24	31		106
*3.	San Jose	             21	27		105
*4.	Phoenix	             23	29		103
*5.	St. Louis	             24	30		103
*6.	Chicago	             25	31		102
*7.	Vancouver	24	29		99
*8.	Dallas	             24	29		99
*9.	Los Angeles	24	28		96
*10.	Edmonton	24	26		89
*11.	Nashville	             24	26		89
*12.	Calgary	             23	21		75
*13.	Colorado	             24	21		72
*14.	Anaheim	             23	16		57
*15.	Columbus	             24	15		51
A 19 point spread for 1st through 11th based on points percentage. San Jose moves from 9th to 3rd. Detroit moves from 5th to 1st. Hopefully Anaheim and Colombus won't be throwing away points all season and the playoff level will settle around 95 points again, but right now it looks like 99 points gets you in.
The last two years have been a dog Fight for a playoff spot, that's With the Kings playing some of the best Hockey in a long time.

It will be the same again this year. At least that's what I see.

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The last two years have been a dog Fight for a playoff spot, that's With the Kings playing some of the best Hockey in a long time.

It will be the same again this year. At least that's what I see.
Yes, there is a dogfight for 4-8, but there are teams that separate from the pack. I just think the Kings should be part of the pack that separates before February. So far, they look to be in the 6-10 range again.

But the NHL has what they wanted when they started handing out the 3 point games. I don't see them changing the way points are handed out, so we will expect close races all season.

I was just pointing out that the 5 point difference (between 1st and 11th) right now is meaningless because not everyone has played the same number of games. It will grow to near 20 points by the end of the season.

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I was just pointing out that the 5 point difference (between 1st and 11th) right now is meaningless because not everyone has played the same number of games. It will grow to near 20 points by the end of the season.
Yep, and this is when the better teams traditionally start to ramp it up. Vancouver is starting to come together, so is Detroit. Boston started a little earlier but they are obviously playing at a very high level.

Upcoming stretches like we have are the kinds that the top teams take advantage of. As much as I hate the Canucks, they've been doing exactly this lately. Over there last 7 games, 5 were against CLB, COL, PHX, OTT and NYI - teams you would expect them to beat - and they did. They split against CHI and SJ, the result is 12 out of 14 points. The Rangers recently had a streak where they won 7 in a row. 6 were against ANA, MTL, OTT, WPG, CAR, and NYI. All teams that are struggling.

Doing the same will go a long way towards a run at the division this year. 5-8 isn't good enough anymore, IMO.

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My "request" for this homestand/with bus trip to OC is 3-1-1 (with 2 W's being over mont and ana - the other 3 games any which way).

That would keep me sane for a while.

Well, they still have a shot of finishing this homestand 3-2, but my initial "win request" was totally ignored!

Yeah, they can still take Minn & Dallas...

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