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12-07-2011, 02:42 AM
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Flyers fan coming to say that it was a great game.. Elliot played like a boss

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Some interesting comments from Hitchcock in the post game presser-



I guess he doesn't realize that it was mostly injuries that put Sobotka on left wing last season, and then when the Blues signed two centers this offseason he was kind of pushed over there.

Berglund's goal was great tonight. I hope he continues to use that shot of his. I just really like seeing a Berglund goal from Stewart and Perron. I hope we get to see those three together on the scoresheet often.
The quotes from Hitchcock about bad coaching: Did anyone see that live? Was he saying it in a self-deprecating way such that it was dumb for HIM to have put Sobotka on LW when he first came here? Otherwise, I'm kind of shocked to hear that kind of disrespectful comment being made about a previous coach. Seems really unprofessional. I tend to think this is Hitchcock saying that HE was dumb to put Sobotka at LW before now.

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There were some pre-game quotes from Babcock about the new alignment. He made an offhand comment about how tough our conference will be......."with how good of a hockey club St Louis is now". Basically, I think ever since Hitchcock got here Babcock recognizes the Blues as a force to be reckoned with. I think Chicago realized that, too. Last game, that was a top level effort from Chicago.

Should be a great rest of the year.

The only ingredient left is to get McDonald back. Meanwhile, keep tallying the points for the Blues.

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The quotes from Hitchcock about bad coaching: Did anyone see that live? Was he saying it in a self-deprecating way such that it was dumb for HIM to have put Sobotka on LW when he first came here? Otherwise, I'm kind of shocked to hear that kind of disrespectful comment being made about a previous coach. Seems really unprofessional. I tend to think this is Hitchcock saying that HE was dumb to put Sobotka at LW before now.
I'm going to assume that's the tone of things, the guy seems to have that sense of humor where he likes to humble himself rather than praise himself.

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12-07-2011, 04:06 AM
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The quotes from Hitchcock about bad coaching: Did anyone see that live? Was he saying it in a self-deprecating way such that it was dumb for HIM to have put Sobotka on LW when he first came here? Otherwise, I'm kind of shocked to hear that kind of disrespectful comment being made about a previous coach. Seems really unprofessional. I tend to think this is Hitchcock saying that HE was dumb to put Sobotka at LW before now.
Haven't heard the specifics myself, but generally it seems that Hitchcock's humor is the sort where it can look pretty bad if you take it out of context and slap it in print...sarcasm (self-directed and otherwise) seems to be a staple for him.

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12-07-2011, 04:24 AM
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Having Oshie in front of the goalie on the PP was so noticeable tonight. The downside to having him there over the long haul is whether he can stand up to the hacking and whacking abuse he'll receive. He certainly has the body leverage ability and elite eye-hand coordination for the front of the net, but boy is he going to pay a price. Since the Blues have had such trouble this year cleaning up on scramble-chances, having Oshie there should boost the conversion rate. Maybe a short-term fix until Stewart figures out how to be an impact player again.

In addition, on the Wings feed during the first game this year, their broadcasters mentioned that entering the game the teams were tied in points in lifetime head-to-head. Now that the Blues have won both this season, the Blues should be four points ahead, but I can't find a good link for lifetime head-to-head records.


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Having Oshie in front of the goalie on the PP was so noticeable tonight. The downside to having him there over the long haul is whether he can stand up to the hacking and whacking abuse he'll receive. He certainly has the body leverage ability and elite eye-hand coordination for the front of the net, but boy is he going to pay a price. Since the Blues have had such trouble this year cleaning up on scramble-chances, having Oshie there should boost the conversion rate. Maybe a short-term fix until Stewart figures out how to be an impact player again.
I think Oshie had another phenomenal game. I personally think that Oshie is one of the best two-way forwards in the league. You can put him anywhere in any situation and he will succeed. I mean, his ability to out-work someone in either end is incredible, and he's being rewarded for it. Backes and Oshie are are basically a poor man's Zetterberg and Datsyuk.

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12-07-2011, 05:01 AM
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In addition, on the Wings feed during the first game this year, their broadcasters mentioned that entering the game the teams were tied in points in lifetime head-to-head. Now that the Blues have won both this season, the Blues should be four points ahead, but I can't find a good link for lifetime head-to-head records.
I'm not disparaging you for your interest, but I, personally, don't understand attention to stats like this. One team might be great during one era, and terrible during another. They might overlap between two teams, they might oppose one another. During a recent rivalry, under the same coaches, or with mostly the same players, awesome. But lifetime is arbitrary.

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12-07-2011, 10:53 AM
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Record against Detroit over the past 3 seasons:

8-4-2

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I like the way Hitchcock keeps shaking up the lines to find scoring from all three.

Putting Sobotka into the third line center spot and making Arnott a fourth line/power play specialist could prove to be a great move.

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I like the way Hitchcock keeps shaking up the lines to find scoring from all three.

Putting Sobotka into the third line center spot and making Arnott a fourth line/power play specialist could prove to be a great move.
He leads the team with 6 PP points, so keeping him as fresh as possible hopefully help out the powerplay.

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I like the way Hitchcock keeps shaking up the lines to find scoring from all three.

Putting Sobotka into the third line center spot and making Arnott a fourth line/power play specialist could prove to be a great move.
He talked about Arnott playing a 150 foot game. Does that mean he will be the high man in the offensive zone while the other two buzz from corner to corner? The Caps used to use the center lock where the two wingers buzzed, the d pinched and the center covered whichever d pinched.

Hiitch also could have ben referring to him not playing as the man down low in the dzone. I am trying to figure out what he meaant by playing him at center with Porter and Nichol would allow him to play 150 feet instead of 200.

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12-07-2011, 07:52 PM
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He talked about Arnott playing a 150 foot game. Does that mean he will be the high man in the offensive zone while the other two buzz from corner to corner? The Caps used to use the center lock where the two wingers buzzed, the d pinched and the center covered whichever d pinched.

Hiitch also could have ben referring to him not playing as the man down low in the dzone. I am trying to figure out what he meaant by playing him at center with Porter and Nichol would allow him to play 150 feet instead of 200.
They'll probably play a third man high scheme while Arnott (and only Arnott) is out there in the offensive zone, and possibly extend the winger's responsibilities down a bit further in the defensive zone. You see a lot of Backes and Berglund in the defensive corners doing boardwork, but with Arnott out there it will probably be a winger. Arnott just doesn't have the speed/quickness the other centers do, and it sounds like Hitchcock is acknowledging that and game-planning accordingly.

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12-08-2011, 01:26 AM
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The quotes from Hitchcock about bad coaching: Did anyone see that live? Was he saying it in a self-deprecating way such that it was dumb for HIM to have put Sobotka on LW when he first came here? Otherwise, I'm kind of shocked to hear that kind of disrespectful comment being made about a previous coach. Seems really unprofessional. I tend to think this is Hitchcock saying that HE was dumb to put Sobotka at LW before now.
Kerber on KMOX after the game said it wasn't a jab at Payne, more at himself. From the quote from the other poster, when it says "When the coach came here and put him on left wing, that's bad coaching... Pretty dumb coach." that certainly sounds like he's making a joke about himself with his sense of humor.

Kind of off topic, but I'm glad Payne is staying in the organization as a Pro scout.

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