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12-08-2011, 10:42 AM
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Is the Gangsta' pouting over Jagr?

Tommy Plekanec isn't having a terrible season but he's projected to have his first sub-20 goal full season in a Habs uni.

I haven't watched (or stayed awake) through enough Habs games to authoritatively evaluate his performance but I got the feeling he'd suck this year as revenge for the team not signing his pal Jagr.

Any other conspiracy theorists out there seeing this as I do?

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12-08-2011, 10:44 AM
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Tommy Plekanec isn't having a terrible season but he's projected to have his first sub-20 goal full season in a Habs uni.

I haven't watched (or stayed awake) through enough Habs games to authoritatively evaluate his performance but I got the feeling he'd suck this year as revenge for the team not signing his pal Jagr. Any other conspiracy theorists out there seeing this as I do?
Do you REALLY believe this?

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12-08-2011, 10:48 AM
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Uh, yeah. I also believe you're rude for not coming across with a more thoughtful reply!

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Tommy Plekanec isn't having a terrible season but he's projected to have his first sub-20 goal full season in a Habs uni.

I haven't watched (or stayed awake) through enough Habs games to authoritatively evaluate his performance but I got the feeling he'd suck this year as revenge for the team not signing his pal Jagr.

Any other conspiracy theorists out there seeing this as I do?
AK asked to be traded to Nashville
Plekanec asked to be traded to the Flyers
Gomez want to be captain
Gorges was captain once in his hockey career (kelowna?)

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12-08-2011, 10:50 AM
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lol is this a joke?

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12-08-2011, 10:51 AM
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He probably looks at the contracts/performance of Cammy/Gio/Gomez and says ... why bother trying any more?

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Usually by about the 5 th or 8 th post somebody who has taken the time to type of a thoughtful, informative reply will appear. Crossing my fingers that somebody is working on that now!

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Uh, yeah. I also believe you're rude for not coming across with a more thoughtful reply!
I honestly couldn't tell if you were joking or not...the sarcasm on this board has reached unbearable levels.

It's pretty obvious the Habs tried to sign Jagr, they just didn't didn't want to pay the price to acquire him. Look at what he signed for in Philly, it's at least 1M more in Montreal...

Plekanec is a hockey player, he doesn't have power in terms of who the Habs sign...I also don't think it's in his personality to be so unprofessional as to not play as hard because his feelings got hurt the Habs didn't sign his 'pal'

As for his performances...Plekanec has played as well as he usually does, but Plekanec suffers from the same fate that Saku Koivu suffered from for years with the Habs, too much responsibility.

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lol is this a joke?
No. But I can tell some jokes later if you like.

Plex was disappointed by the Jagr decision. No secret there.

He might've suffered a little demotivation as a result of that disappointment.

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12-08-2011, 10:56 AM
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Usually by about the 5 th or 8 th post somebody who has taken the time to type of a thoughtful, informative reply will appear. Crossing my fingers that somebody is working on that now!
Not really. Making the hypothesis that one of our players who have been the most consistent for years would deliberately jeopardize it's career over a failed signing that we clearly gave our best to achieve...

Doesn't deserve a thoughtful answer. Better luck next thread

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Tommy Plekanec isn't having a terrible season but he's projected to have his first sub-20 goal full season in a Habs uni.

I haven't watched (or stayed awake) through enough Habs games to authoritatively evaluate his performance but I got the feeling he'd suck this year as revenge for the team not signing his pal Jagr.

Any other conspiracy theorists out there seeing this as I do?
Wow.

I'm sorry but this is just complete nonsense.

Was he disappointed he didn't sign? Maybe. Did he pout about it and react like a 5 year old child? No.

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12-08-2011, 11:02 AM
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You're being dismissive.

I bet it has happened to everybody on this discussion forum.

You feel disappointed at work and therefore lose focus, don't work as hard, feel a little bit of resentment, feel that your input isn't appreciated and so forth.

Surely Pleks has noticed that Jagr has 9 goals in 22 games which would put him off the team lead by one.

My argument is solid.
Premise 1: Pleks was disappointed that we didn't sign Jagr.
Premise 2: Disappointment leads to a downturn in workplace motivation.
Conclusion: Pleks suffered a downturn in motivation.


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You're being dismissive.

I bet it has happened to everybody on this discussion forum.

You feel disappointed at work and therefore lose focus, don't work as hard, feel a little bit of resentment, feel that your input isn't appreciated and so forth.

Surely Pleks has noticed that Jagr has 9 goals in 22 games which would put him off the team lead by one.

My argument is solid.
Premise 1: Pleks was disappointed that we didn't sign Jagr.
Premise 2: Disappointment leads to a downturn in workplace motivation.
Conclusion: Pleks suffered a downtown in motivation.
Yeah well, good luck with that. Personally I'm not going to discuss this.

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Usually by about the 5 th or 8 th post somebody who has taken the time to type of a thoughtful, informative reply will appear. Crossing my fingers that somebody is working on that now!
You have a non-sense speculation with no proof.
The only proof you have is that Plekanec and Jagr are born in Czech Republic

Plekanec: 23 pts in 28 games
on pace for 67 pts (3rd in career 69 and 70 points)


He is the most used foward for the team

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Plekanec is paid millions to play hockey and play it well. And I will bet my student loans that no where in his contract is there a provision that stipulates: "...the aforementioned player may reduce his productivity out of spite or exact revenge if the team does not sign Jaromir Jagr". I'm also certain beyond a doubt that he conciously or subconciously is playing bad for the purposes of revenge.

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Stop mixing your weed with jib.

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No. But I can tell some jokes later if you like.

Plex was disappointed by the Jagr decision. No secret there.

He might've suffered a little demotivation as a result of that disappointment.
They will all pale in comparison to this one.

So, Pleky is disappointed that management "didn't sign" Jagr, and is getting back at them by messing up his own stats? Flawless plan.

Refer to this: http://dictionary.reference.com/brow...ns+of+grandeur

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Plekanec is paid millions to play hockey and play it well. And I will bet my student loans that no where in his contract is there a provision that stipulates: "...the aforementioned player may reduce his productivity out of spite or exact revenge if the team does not sign Jaromir Jagr". I'm also certain beyond a doubt that he conciously or subconciously is playing bad for the purposes of revenge.
And nowhere in his contract does it say that he has to play every shift like it's game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals.

His numbers are clearly down this year in spite of copious amounts of time on the power play.

Any sports psychologists out there with insight to share instead of dumbos talking about marijuana?

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What do we have? A team full of kids?

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And nowhere in his contract does it say that he has to play every shift like it's game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals.

His numbers are clearly down this year in spite of copious amounts of time on the power play.

Any sports psychologists out there with insight to share instead of dumbos talking about marijuana?
The whole team's numbers are down despite copious amounts of powerplay time. The reason he's not getting points on the powerplay isn't because he's mad about Jagr. C'mon dude! By that logic, are the other power play specialists on the team equally mad about not getting Jagr or exacting their own revenge. I can just see them now in a huddle before the power play starts:

- Pleks: Ok, nobody score because we're still mad about not signing Jagr.
- Subban: I'd really like to get some points to get a better contract next year.
- Pleks: Forget about your contract, let's do this for Jagr.
- Rest of guys: FOR JAGR!

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Jagr and Hamr

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The whole team's numbers are down despite copious amounts of powerplay time. The reason he's not getting points on the powerplay isn't because he's mad about Jagr. C'mon dude! By that logic, are the other power play specialists on the team equally mad about not getting Jagr or exacting their own revenge. I can just see them now in a huddle before the power play starts:

- Pleks: Ok, nobody score because we're still mad about not signing Jagr.
- Subban: I'd really like to get some points to get a better contract next year.
- Pleks: Forget about your contract, let's do this for Jagr.
- Rest of guys: FOR JAGR!
Makes sense. Is that why Price let Jagr score on him ?

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Tommy Plekanec isn't having a terrible season but he's projected to have his first sub-20 goal full season in a Habs uni.

I haven't watched (or stayed awake) through enough Habs games to authoritatively evaluate his performance but I got the feeling he'd suck this year as revenge for the team not signing his pal Jagr.

Any other conspiracy theorists out there seeing this as I do?
You might be on to something here. Let's ask hockey expert Gaston Therrien. He must know.









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My argument is solid.
Premise 1: Pleks was disappointed that we didn't sign Jagr.
Premise 2: Disappointment leads to a downturn in workplace motivation.
Conclusion: Pleks suffered a downtown in motivation.


Are you inside Plekanec's head? What makes you think he was disappointed they didn't sign Jagr? Maybe he actually is happy that they signed Erik Cole instead.

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Ok, well let's discuss this deeper then. Looks like Ima have to school ya!

The only good post I've seen here is the one projecting that his assist totals show that he is having a good season, that was a good point. (as was the one mentioning Hamrlik)

But 6 goals in 22 games are more like Max Lapierre numbers in my eyes and it's 50% less than old washed-up Jagr himself, it should be noted.

So what is the recipe for excellence? Mostly it's about ability and talent but there's an additional factor, how much passion are you putting into your work? How much commitment to detail, getting your sleep, eating right, visualizing, communicating with your teammates.

Like they say in baseball, the difference between hitting 240 and 300 is about 20 line drives a year. There's a fine line between excellence and mediocrity.

Just a tiny bit of alienation, loss of interest, irritation can be the difference between an average output and an excellent result.

I fear Plex is not attaining the excellence and it's possibly because he's still irked at not signing Jagr.

We can admit now that it was a mistake for us not to get him and it must be festering for the Czech. We know that Plex was lobbying management to sign him, so it's no stretch to suggest that Plex's downtown is a result of his disappointment.

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