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12-08-2011, 09:59 PM
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Interesting how Price says he cant throw guys under the bus but the coach doesn't hesitate to do it.

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Belichick actually won, Martin is more of a Brad Childress or some other plug coach.
Martin is the Jim Kelly of the NHL...oh wait at least Kelly made it to the finals!

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12-08-2011, 10:00 PM
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As bad as Martin is perceived with regards to his treatment of young players and favoritism towards vets, this board is the complete opposite. Two goals as a direct result of very dumb plays by two favorites on this board (and of mine) and it's barely being mentioned. Funnier still, one of them was caused by Martin actually doing something people here were begging him to do (ie put Emelin on the PP).

But it wasn't on the backs of those two that we lost. After 2 periods of pretty good hockey, the entire team shat the bed. Everybody needs to pick up their game. Vets, rookies, forwards, defense, even goaltending could stand to be better. At least we showed some life this game, more than we've shown in recent weeks. But at the end of the day too many points are being left on the table.

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12-08-2011, 10:00 PM
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Few weeks ago AK46 was not on PP tonight he was on 1st unti
Gorges on point?
Pacioretty most goals not on the pp
Emelin on point 2nd wave

yeah martin knows what's he doing. he's pulling it out of his ass
actually its in his infamous notebook.

page 53 behind the 52 portraits of darche.

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12-08-2011, 10:01 PM
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Unacceptable..
And yet, points in 10 of those 15. We're just always blowing leads and not getting it done in OT or SO at home. Pretty weak.

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12-08-2011, 10:01 PM
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Wow...you seriously going to try to make me believe that Martin is asking his players to stand around static on the ice during a PP?

Come on man!
The PP has been the same all season long. Nothing different.

Do you think that a coach would/should have the ability to identify what is wrong and correct the problem?

Or is Martin simply a figurehead who stands behind the bench during games, goes out to meet the media to bash his young players after a loss and then simply drives home after the game.

On practice day, JM sits in his office viewing porn on his computer and shows up in his suit on game day to start it all over again.

I honestly dont think that Martin is asking his players to do anything.

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12-08-2011, 10:02 PM
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Wrong again. Sorry, but having 5 skaters in the same damned positions and standing around is not an execution problem. It is a tactical problem.

Did you happen to see the difference between the last Canucks PP when players were moving with the puck and without the puck and our sad 4 power plays when our guys are simply passing the puck to virtually stationary players?

The point is not the problem. Being static on the point is. That is a coaching problem, not an execution problem. The sooner Molson figures that out, the better.

But.........many many beers were sold tonight to drown the pain.
Exactly. Anyone of you that has played any hockey at all knows the easiest player to check is one who is STANDING STILL.
which as you mentioned and I have also noticed the Canadiens do on most of their PPs.

Watch Boston or any Good PP.. the players are frequently moving so they are not so easy to check.

Get a clue JM. and admit that you are really the white rabbit escaped from the Alice in Wonderland movie...scared....try going back to wonderland so we can get a creative coach.


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Whih channel is Tva sports on videotron? I can't find it anymore, it disappeared.

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It's easy to come in here and talk about the game after a win but win or lose I was going to share some thoughts about your team.

1. Gomez, he's really bad, I didn't notice him ALL game.

2. Carey Price, is a star goalie. I hope he resigns in Montreal long term.

3. PK Subban, I've been in impressed with him in the past but that was for his offense but WOW he held the Sedin's in check (litterally on his interference call). Usually when the Sedin's are paired against a offensive top pairing guy they just eat them alive but Subban really did well. Also Gorges needs to be resigned, or else we HAVE to sign this guy.

4. Eller, he's an amazingly smart player and I can tell he's almost the "frustrating he doesn't produce more" type (like Hemsky) but he really is a good defensive player. Impressive.

5. Looking forward to the march 10 rematch in our barn. May we both ****kick the Bruins from now until then.
Gomez is hurt and not playing.. lol

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With the way Martin keeps blaming the rookies, people can finally put an end to the Gomez thread. Till Martin and Gauthier are there, they'll trade Subban and Pacioretty before they send Gomez in the AHL. But more seriously, DO NOT be surprised if Eller sits some games real soon and especially when Gomez comes back.

So Spacek and Campoli in real soon. Out St-Denis and Diaz. While it will most definately be an upgrade over Fred, people might find that Diaz was not THAT bad after all. Especially the ones who think that Campoli is some kind of saviour. Same guy who had no freakin job September 24th.....
I don't know why he blamed the rookies tonight since St-Denis and Diaz scored...

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I just realized at least 3 of 7 canadian teams dislike the bruins. Montreal, Vancouver and Toronto.

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Wrong again. Sorry, but having 5 skaters in the same damned positions and standing around is not an execution problem. It is a tactical problem.

Did you happen to see the difference between the last Canucks PP when players were moving with the puck and without the puck and our sad 4 power plays when our guys are simply passing the puck to virtually stationary players?

The point is not the problem. Being static on the point is. That is a coaching problem, not an execution problem. The sooner Molson figures that out, the better.

But.........many many beers were sold tonight to drown the pain.
I think you are wrong. It isn't tactics, it is execution. Why were they so good on the PP last year, not because they were moving and this year they are static, but because they had multiple options on the PP. A shooting threat from the point (Subban/Wiz) and a shooting threat on the half boards (Cammy). They alswys had 2 options. This year, they don't. In my opinion they thought Subban/Weber would have been that point presence, and either Cammy or Cole on the half boards, but they aren't executing from either spot. The only hing that the coaches can be questioned on is the powerplay personnel, but lately it seems whoever is out there isn't doing a thing. I think fans need to put some blame on the players, and not always on the coaching and management.

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It's easy to come in here and talk about the game after a win but win or lose I was going to share some thoughts about your team.

1. Gomez, he's really bad, I didn't notice him ALL game.

2. Carey Price, is a star goalie. I hope he resigns in Montreal long term.

3. PK Subban, I've been in impressed with him in the past but that was for his offense but WOW he held the Sedin's in check (litterally on his interference call). Usually when the Sedin's are paired against a offensive top pairing guy they just eat them alive but Subban really did well. Also Gorges needs to be resigned, or else we HAVE to sign this guy.

4. Eller, he's an amazingly smart player and I can tell he's almost the "frustrating he doesn't produce more" type (like Hemsky) but he really is a good defensive player. Impressive.

5. Looking forward to the march 10 rematch in our barn. May we both ****kick the Bruins from now until then.
Gomez left the game early to go to the bank

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Do you watch the Habs?

What player is different? James Wisniewski, that's who...

And i'm not saying the Habs should of re-signed him (I wouldnt have at that money) but the habs PP has always been dangerous because they've always had a PP QB (Markov or Wiz) and a shooter (Subban, Streit, Souray, Bergeron, Schneider).

Right now, they have some shooters...but no QB, no one has vision or creativity from the point.
I do watch them and to answer your point Subban is what you depend on he's weak definitely over used with a weak defense to begin with he looks confused somewhat like Martin's coaching. I will ask you a simple question you listed some heavy hitter's to scare me why didn't you put Tomas Plek's name down as a heavy hitter Martin thinks he is capable. Do you ever wonder if you defense is weak force the play with your forwards instead just a thought.

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12-08-2011, 10:06 PM
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Dont worry guys

We have the Darcheman
You mean the guy who's been averaging 6 minutes per game lately?

Sooooooo two weeks ago. Find another running gag

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WTF does that say?!?

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Burrows dive got the Canucks the game. Also Martins poor knowledge of his own players and sit on the lead gameplan.

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WTF does that say?!?
BCE and Rogers are buying the Maple Laughs from the ontario teacher's pension fund.

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The two telecommunications giants BCE and Rogers Communications would buy the Toronto Maple Leafs held by the pension fund Ontario Teachers Teachers.

The transaction is expected to force Bell to revalue its stake in the Montreal Canadiens.

According to information obtained by Silver, the transaction, which would be announced Friday, before the opening of markets, be around $ 2 billion.

Bell and Rogers would acquire an equal share of Maple Leafs Sports Entertainment (MLSE) to Teachers, which owns 79.5% of the company.

In addition to the Maple Leafs, MLSE owns the Raptors basketball team, the Toronto FC soccer club and the Air Canada Centre.

The construction magnate Larry Tanenbaum retain its 20.5% interest in MLSE.

Rumors had surfaced transaction in late November, according to which BCE and Rogers could pay 1.3 to $ 1.4 billion to buy MLSE. According to the "Globe and Mail," an inability to agree on the sharing of television broadcast rights and online games the Leafs did stumble the transaction.
It seems that the two giants have finally come to an agreement.

The Maple Leafs are for sale for almost a year. According to Brian Cooper, a former executive of Maple Leafs Sports & Entertainment and the president of S & E Sponsorship Group, the fund asked Ontario $ 1.8 billion to sell its shares in the team.

According to business professor at Laval University André Richelieu, the book of NHL rules prohibit an owner from owning more than 30% of a hockey team if it holds more than one. It is also impossible for an owner to have shares in more than three different teams.
But since 2009, BCE owns up to 18% of the Montreal Canadiens, along with brothers including Molson, the Fund QFL and the private holding company Woodbridge.

"Unless a special letter of authorization of Governors of the National League, Bell will have to choose between Montreal and Toronto," he said.

Mr. Richelieu spoke of a "big shot" surprising in that Bell and Rogers are fierce rivals in the telecommunications sector. "We can already see small battles between the two giants on the broadcast rights. The big risk is that the Leafs fans find themselves taken hostage, "he said.

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Whih channel is Tva sports on videotron? I can't find it anymore, it disappeared.
It was a free preview. The preview is over now.

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BCE and Rogers are buying the Maple Laughs from the ontario teacher's pension fund.
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The two telecommunications giants BCE and Rogers Communications would buy the Toronto Maple Leafs held by the pension fund Ontario Teachers Teachers.

The transaction is expected to force Bell to revalue its stake in the Montreal Canadiens.

According to information obtained by Silver, the transaction, which would be announced Friday, before the opening of markets, be around $ 2 billion.

Bell and Rogers would acquire an equal share of Maple Leafs Sports Entertainment (MLSE) to Teachers, which owns 79.5% of the company.

In addition to the Maple Leafs, MLSE owns the Raptors basketball team, the Toronto FC soccer club and the Air Canada Centre.

The construction magnate Larry Tanenbaum retain its 20.5% interest in MLSE.

Rumors had surfaced transaction in late November, according to which BCE and Rogers could pay 1.3 to $ 1.4 billion to buy MLSE. According to the "Globe and Mail," an inability to agree on the sharing of television broadcast rights and online games the Leafs did stumble the transaction.
It seems that the two giants have finally come to an agreement.

The Maple Leafs are for sale for almost a year. According to Brian Cooper, a former executive of Maple Leafs Sports & Entertainment and the president of S & E Sponsorship Group, the fund asked Ontario $ 1.8 billion to sell its shares in the team.

According to business professor at Laval University André Richelieu, the book of NHL rules prohibit an owner from owning more than 30% of a hockey team if it holds more than one. It is also impossible for an owner to have shares in more than three different teams.
But since 2009, BCE owns up to 18% of the Montreal Canadiens, along with brothers including Molson, the Fund QFL and the private holding company Woodbridge.

"Unless a special letter of authorization of Governors of the National League, Bell will have to choose between Montreal and Toronto," he said.

Mr. Richelieu spoke of a "big shot" surprising in that Bell and Rogers are fierce rivals in the telecommunications sector. "We can already see small battles between the two giants on the broadcast rights. The big risk is that the Leafs fans find themselves taken hostage, "he said.
English link:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../19099591.html

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With the way Martin keeps blaming the rookies, people can finally put an end to the Gomez thread. Till Martin and Gauthier are there, they'll trade Subban and Pacioretty before they send Gomez in the AHL. But more seriously, DO NOT be surprised if Eller sits some games real soon and especially when Gomez comes back.

So Spacek and Campoli in real soon. Out St-Denis and Diaz. While it will most definately be an upgrade over Fred, people might find that Diaz was not THAT bad after all. Especially the ones who think that Campoli is some kind of saviour. Same guy who had no freakin job September 24th.....
I think Campoli priced himself out of the market in the summer, especially after the Hawks walked away from his arbitration award. I don't agree they would trade either PK or Pacioretty but I assume you were just trying to stress your point. Eller didn't sit games when Gomez last came back, so I doubt he'll sit any this time around. Also, I'm surprised so many people actually listend to what JM says during his press conferences. In fact, I'm surprised the media ask him any questions. You only need one interview, after the first game of the year, and just play it back after every game. He, and Gauthier say nothing when they speak anyway, so why waste time listening to them. And this is not a criticism, I actually prefer this to some other coaches/GM's who talk a lot but make no sense.

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I think you are wrong. It isn't tactics, it is execution. Why were they so good on the PP last year, not because they were moving and this year they are static, but because they had multiple options on the PP. A shooting threat from the point (Subban/Wiz) and a shooting threat on the half boards (Cammy). They alswys had 2 options. This year, they don't. In my opinion they thought Subban/Weber would have been that point presence, and either Cammy or Cole on the half boards, but they aren't executing from either spot. The only hing that the coaches can be questioned on is the powerplay personnel, but lately it seems whoever is out there isn't doing a thing. I think fans need to put some blame on the players, and not always on the coaching and management.
Pull up video from last year and then look at the games this year.

How many give and goes do you see this year?

The point is THE focus this season. Its all about the point. Get the puck to the right point, pass it to the left point and shoot. Repeat again with the puck to the right point that is passed to the left point and then shoot.

The Habs WERE a creative team last year with our D Men skating in from the point on the weak side and then either shooting or passing the puck to a forward advancing on net. In either case, the goalie was forced to move from side to side.

Almost all of our shots on goal on the PP is where the goalie is squared up to the shooter and is able to easily make the save.

Nothing changes this season, including the inability to score.

The only real threat that we are missing on the PP from last year is Kirk Muller. Imagine that.........

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WTF does that say?!?
Bell is buying the Maple Leafs, they will have to choose between the Habs or the Leafs since they still on 18% of the Habs ..

Stands to reason the 18% will be put up for sale since they are just acquiring the Maple Leafs

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