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12-02-2005, 12:06 PM
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And see I always thought that was the case. I can't afford to buy a hoiuse in Vail. I might like to buy a house in Vail. My friends might all have houses in Vail. My business competitor might have a house in Vail. That doesn't mean that I then go and buy a house in Vail when I know very well that I can't afford it.

Now, I know things changed with the CBA and having a both a salary cap and a salary minimum. That still doesn't change the fact that the Pens were crazy to give LeClair a two year contract, Palffy three years at 4.5 per, or Gonchar 5 years at 5M per.
i understand your point on that and i agree for the most part. i see the a's and twins and teams like that in baseball win w/o the huge franchise-killer deals. and i think to myself that it should have been the case in hockey where taking the time to build up your farm system and build up your team would result in the ability to compete and compete year after year. and to an extent we've seen that in edmonton, and even lesser ottawa. just not enough of it.

the only comeback i can give as to argue that concept is that in the nhl the GM's as a whole are possibly the most foolish we have in pro sports. they really don't know as a group (and i stress that because i know we have some great ones too) how to handle cash and thus needed to be protected from themselves.

and actually, now that i just thought about it, another theory i could give to support all this is the fact that the nhl has by far the highest turnover rate of coaches, and possibly general managers, of any pro sport in north america. therefore, one could argue the need to "win now" is why contracts are where they are for certain teams.

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Yeah, but are the people in Pittsburgh excited? Sam and JD were mentioning the guys that the Pens have drafted in the high first round the last several seaons and it's truly mind-boggling. We all know the names but when you really see the names its atounding. Crosby, Whitney, Fleury, Malkin. Add to that known names Recchi, Palffy, LeClair, Gonchar and arguanly the biggest star in the game Mario and what is it going to take to get people interested in the team?
I wouldn't dare to disagree with you.

Add Orpik to that list as well.

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Yeah, but are the people in Pittsburgh excited? Sam and JD were mentioning the guys that the Pens have drafted in the high first round the last several seaons and it's truly mind-boggling. We all know the names but when you really see the names its atounding. Crosby, Whitney, Fleury, Malkin. Add to that known names Recchi, Palffy, LeClair, Gonchar and arguanly the biggest star in the game Mario and what is it going to take to get people interested in the team?
I think if the Pens were able to get out of that dungeon called the Igloo, then they would be able to draw in fans. I've been there, and frankly, it makes Olympic Stadium in Montreal look like the Biltmore Estate! Too bad they can't get a deal going, but oh well.

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The Pens should stay in Pittsburgh because gambling revenues will allow them to be profitable? Does that essentially turn hockey into a sideshow at a large downtown casino?
Uh, it's the new arena that would help them become profitable.

I said "slots reveneue" instead of "new arena" because there's actually a deadline involved with the slots license. If that passes without the Pens on board, then they will do as any other business does and seek profitability elsewhere.

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