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12-09-2011, 02:14 AM
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Kick a guys stick away?

I play in a competitive beer league and was wondering...

Is it ok to kick an opposing player's stick away if they drop it near you?

Would certain instances make it ok? Like if they drop as they fall near you and it's in your way?

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12-09-2011, 02:43 AM
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If it's broken and you touch it, you're supposed to get a penalty. I did this during a game once, thinking I was doing the right thing by sweeping the stick towards the boards and the ref said he'd give me a penalty for it if I did it again.

If it's just dropped, it could be considered interference. You prevented a player from regaining his/her stick.

Bottom line, if a stick is dropped...just never touch it.


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I really have no idea but I would assume if it's not broken you would be able to just move it out of your way a bit but not fling way far away.

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if the player has lost his stick and is trying to recover it and you kick it away, i believe its a penalty. at least it is in the adult league that i played in years ago

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It makes sense that it would be a penalty if done maliciously...

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If I'm nearby I'll usually pick it up and hand it to the guy. People say I don't have enough of a mean streak for hockey.

Anyways, I'm sure it's something you could get away with if you're stealthy and the puck is away from the play. Bending down to grab it and throw it will get you in trouble, but a little kick to send it behind the net probably won't draw anyone's attention beyond the guy whose stick you just kicked.

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play in a competitive beer league and was wondering...

Is it ok to kick an opposing player's stick away if they drop it near you?

Would certain instances make it ok? Like if they drop as they fall near you and it's in your way?
If the referee thinks that you are preventing the player, who dropped the stick, from regaining possession of it, it's an interference penalty.


Hockey Canada Rules.

(a) A Minor penalty for interference or, at the discretion of
the Referee, a Major penalty and a Game Misconduct
penalty shall be assessed any player who:
(1) interferes with or impedes the progress of an
opponent who is not in possession of the puck, or
(2) deliberately knocks a stick out of an opponent’s
hand, or
(3) prevents an opponent who has lost or dropped his
stick from regaining possession of it

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12-09-2011, 09:34 AM
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If the referee thinks that you are preventing the player, who dropped the stick, from regaining possession of it, it's an interference penalty.


Hockey Canada Rules.

(a) A Minor penalty for interference or, at the discretion of
the Referee, a Major penalty and a Game Misconduct
penalty shall be assessed any player who:
(1) interferes with or impedes the progress of an
opponent who is not in possession of the puck, or
(2) deliberately knocks a stick out of an opponent’s
hand, or
(3) prevents an opponent who has lost or dropped his
stick from regaining possession of it
Thanks! This happened in a game recently, and I was wondering what the ruling should have been... now I know!

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If I'm nearby I'll usually pick it up and hand it to the guy. People say I don't have enough of a mean streak for hockey.
I appreciate that kind of gesture.

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Bottom line, if a stick is dropped...just never touch it.
Unfortunately this is the best advice. Even good sportsmanship can get you in trouble, having two sticks can be a penalty or the ref could see your kindhearted gesture as interference.

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That comes across as a very douchy move on your part...if you make it obvious :p

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Not sure, when we're killing penalties/powerplays and someone drops their stick in the shooting or passing lane I move it out of the way unless I have a clear shot to the net then I just shoot low off the stick and hope for the best

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If it's broken and you touch it, you're supposed to get a penalty. I did this during a game once, thinking I was doing the right thing by sweeping the stick towards the boards and the ref said he'd give me a penalty for it if I did it again.

If it's just dropped, it could be considered interference. You prevented a player from regaining his/her stick.

Bottom line, if a stick is dropped...just never touch it.
Unless you're Bobby Ryan. Then you should pick it up and score with it.

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For us goalies, if it's in our crease, we can do whatever we want with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1_oSxrELGg

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If it's broken and you touch it, you're supposed to get a penalty. I did this during a game once, thinking I was doing the right thing by sweeping the stick towards the boards and the ref said he'd give me a penalty for it if I did it again.
Rule 53 – Throwing Equipment
53.1 Throwing Equipment – A player shall not throw a stick or any other
object in any zone. A player who has lost or broken his stick may only
receive a stick at his own players’ bench or be handed one from a
teammate on the ice (see 10.3).
53.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on any player on
the ice who throws his stick or any part thereof or any other object in
the direction of the puck or an opponent in any zone, except when
such act has been penalized by the assessment of a penalty shot or
the awarding of a goal.
When a defending player shoots or throws a stick or any other
object at the puck or the puck carrier in the defending zone but does
not interfere in any manner with the puck or puck carrier, a minor
penalty shall be assessed.
When the player discards the broken portion of a stick or some
other object by tossing it or shooting it to the side of the ice (and not
over the boards) in such a way as will not interfere with play or
opposing player, no penalty will be imposed for so doing. When
moving a stick that is not broken, no penalty shall be assessed as
long as it does not interfere with the play and the player who lost said
stick is not attempting to retrieve it, otherwise an interference penalty
must be assessed.

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I got a penalty for this when I was a kid.

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It's a minor for interference

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I've seen it both called as interference and unsportsman like conduct

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If the stick belongs to a teammate you can slide it to him. Other than that Penalty box you go. If the ref sees you...

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Can't do it anymore, but when I was younger (much) I loved breaking two-piece sticks. I was never a great faceoff guy, but I was great at quickly pressing down and popping the blade out. It is a neat trick; too bad its slashing now. Works on composite sticks that have been flexed a little too much too.

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I play in a competitive beer league and was wondering...

Is it ok to kick an opposing player's stick away if they drop it near you?

Would certain instances make it ok? Like if they drop as they fall near you and it's in your way?
One of the easiest interference calls in the book. Will get called every time by a referee who knows what he is doing out there.

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kicking another players stick so they cant pick it up is completely unsportsmanlike....................but accidently taking a full stride and hitting the stick away from them **by accident** is just a coincidence.

weirdly enough this coincidence always seems to happen when i see a stick on teh ice.

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For us goalies, if it's in our crease, we can do whatever we want with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1_oSxrELGg
Last season a visiting goalie picked up a dropped Admirals stick and brought his skate blade down on the middle of the stick blade and broke it. No penalty was called, but the ref wondered why the crowd booed for a minute and each time the goalie touched the puck.

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Can't do it anymore, but when I was younger (much) I loved breaking two-piece sticks. I was never a great faceoff guy, but I was great at quickly pressing down and popping the blade out. It is a neat trick; too bad its slashing now. Works on composite sticks that have been flexed a little too much too.
I would never do something like this. I consider it a karma issue.

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