Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren made a statement concerning the injury status of defenseman Chris Pronger:
While Chris' knee is improving, he has struggled with other issues that are concussion-like symptoms. Chris will see Dr. Joe Maroon and Dr. Mickey Collins on Wednesday, December 14th in Pittsburgh for further evaluation. Chris will be out indefinetly.
Holmgren also addressed the status of rookie forward Brayden Schenn, who has missed the last two games due to an upper-body injury.
Brayden reported “not feeling himself” on December 5th. Our doctors believe he has a mild concussion. Brayden will be out indefinitely.
Virus -> Knee Surgery -> Concussion... whats next? broken ribs?
Haha I don't know but Beef and I believed something fishy was happening with Pronger with the whole injury thing. Once I learned he took the impact test, you had to think that this could be a bad situation.
Do you they knew this possible concussion issue would keep him out for a while so they decided to do his knee a the same time? Like, he could play through the knee issue and then they could do surgery after the season, but figured, he's going to be out for this, let's fix this other thing now as well?
Sucks. Hopefully the concussion symptoms pass and the knee heels up and he's back at full strength late Jan, early Feb?
VOORHEES, N.J. — Well, it turns out Chris Pronger’s mystery virus might be what we all feared it was all along. According to general manager Paul Holmgren, Pronger, who recently underwent left knee surgery, is now out indefinitely.
“While Chris’ knee is improving, he has struggled with other issues that are concussion-like symptoms,” said Holmgren. “Chris will see Dr. Joe Maroon and Dr. Mickey Collins on Wednesday, Dec. 14th in Pittsburgh for further evaluation. Chris will be out indefinitely.”
Pronger sat out four games with a mystery illness that sounded like it could have been a concussion from afar, but he seemed to suggest otherwise.
“We’re still trying to ascertain what’s going on,” said Pronger on Dec. 1 in a conference call with reporters. “Like I said, I’ve never felt like this before, so I don’t really know what’s going on.”
While “concussion-like symptoms” doesn’t absolutely translate into an actual concussion, reading between the lines says that this is serious. Collins is the doctor Sidney Crosby saw for his concussion that kept him out of action from Jan. 6 to earlier this month.
Pronger, who was already on the shelf until Christmas recovering from a minor surgery to clean out some loose bodies in his left knee, is now out of the lineup indefinitely with concussion-like symptoms.
Pronger will now see concussion specialists Dr. Joe Maroon and Dr. Mickey Collins, both of whom are based in Pittsburgh.
If the names sound familiar, they are - they are the same docs who dealt with Sidney Crosby's concussion and post-concussion symptoms.
And if their track record with precaution is any indication - it could be a good while before the Flyers captain returns to the ice.
Pronger did pass a baseline test recently, but that is no longer a tried and true indicator of whether a player has recovered.
Baseline tests compare your score post head trauma to a similar test taken pre-trauma, however, many athletes throw the initial test to have a lower cognitive score to attain while possibly dealing with a concussion.
"Over the last few days he's had some difficulties," Holmgren said. "A fairly persistent headache, just sluggish feeling - so we're just trying to do the right thing here and get him checked out."
Holmgren still wouldn't call the injury a concussion, saying "I don't know that we know that," but he sure had no problem calling this malady a virus, even though there's a far better chance of it being a concussion then there ever was it being a virus.
"I don't know that we'll ever know that (it wasn't a virus)," Holmgren said. "We didn't know what we were dealing with then and I'm not sure we do now."
"I Came Here To Bury Caesar, Not Praise Him" - Roy Halladay
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While it would be crazy for a team leading the Eastern conference to take a knee for the playoffs, I hope that Laviolette and Holmgren maintain some perspective that this team is – for all intents and purposes – a couple of years away from reasonably competing for the Stanley Cup. By this, I mean not running Timonen into an early grave (Laviolette), continuing to play the youngsters in high-pressure game situations (Laviolette), and not making desperation short-term deals (Holmgren).