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12-10-2011, 02:49 PM
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I thought this was a typical win from a struggling team. They needed that kind of win, they'll play with more confidence next time they have to hold a lead.

You gotta understand this team's confidence is shaken up. The Habs have to rebuild that confidence little by little.

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So? Defenseman are allowed to cover the puck in the crease. Hal Gill does it all the time on the PK. You just aren't allowed to close our hand on the puck.. unless there is some new rule?


I guess I can see how the refs thought that, but that's a risky call to make when your not 100% sure. Gorges definitely didn't cover the puck with hand, he swiped at it in the air and then it fell under his body.
Natey stop the hate on the refs. It was the right and correct call! LOL

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Yay, victory. Also I'm not sure how I can get used to see Kaberle with a Habs sweater.

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hand on the puck in the crease = penalty shot. In the rule book.
I think we all know that.

The question is did Gorges really close his hand on the puck in the crease.

Edit: just saw that you can't cover the puck with your body either. Good call was made then.

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12-10-2011, 02:50 PM
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The NJ goal was a bit flukey, deflection and right to their player, but you get those when you sit back all 3rd period.

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It doesn't make the Kaberle trade good.
But Kaberle was exactly what we needed.
Awesome post.

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Exactly. Don't know why people were calling it BS. Gorges covered the puck up. The overhead shot made that quite obvious.
Fair enough, by that rule, it makes sense.

CBC used to always talk about covering their hand on the puck, and thats what I thought the rule was. Good to know for next time. Crazy that I've seen defenseman cover the puck on many occasions and never seen it called. I've only seen it called when the hand is closed on the puck.

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joy!

Subban se fait bousculer par Cole, et Price a pas trop le gout de faire le triple-low five mais le fait quand meme...

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I thought Kaberle played pretty poor in the defensive zone today. Emelin is a beast however.

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God even when this team wins it's a narrow decision where we do everything we can to botch it. A good trapping system doesn't result in all sorts of desperate penalties at the wrong time. I guess we shouldn't be surprised we've coughed up so many points. When you play so conservatively and can't score insurance markers for the life of you, it's too much to ask your team to preserve 2-1 wins every time out.
They didn't play conservatively, they were not able to finish the offensive plays, and that is an execution problem, not a gameplan/tactics problem.

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Sloppy game but a win is a win I guess. 2 powerplays looked good the rest looked like same old same old. Martin made them sit back too much after the first goal and it was extremely boring to watch. GO HABS GO.

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Just noticed that Desharnais was 2nd among all fowrards in ice-time with 19:50. Does his play warrant the respect he gets from Martin?
Not in my mind, he is playing well but JM gives him too many minutes, especially on the PP

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I thought Kaberle played pretty poor in the defensive zone today. Emelin is a beast however.
Emelin was ****ing terrible tonight. Playing on his off-side was a bad move.

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The NJ goal was a bit flukey, deflection and right to their player, but you get those when you sit back all 3rd period.
You make me laugh.

We have been *****ing because Martin allows his team to sit on leads and NOW YOU are complaining about it?

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Just noticed that Desharnais was 2nd among all fowrards in ice-time with 19:50. Does his play warrant the respect he gets from Martin?
Desharnais is becoming a legit second line center. He's really good and keeps getting better.

His main weakness (other than being vertically challenged) used to be faceoffs. He's made tremendous progress in this aspect. He started the year around 30-40% and is now at 50%. Tonight he's won almost all of them.

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Awesome post.
Makes you wonder doesn't it. Just a very odd post.

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Fair enough, by that rule, it makes sense.

CBC used to always talk about covering their hand on the puck, and thats what I thought the rule was. Good to know for next time. Crazy that I've seen defenseman cover the puck on many occasions and never seen it called. I've only seen it called when the hand is closed on the puck.
Well from the live action was hard to tell what was going on. The overhead showed him covering the pick with his hand. In the confusion it looked like Gorges thought that they were calling it a goal as many other did including the announcers. I think that is why Gorges was going nuts

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I thought Kaberle played pretty poor in the defensive zone today. Emelin is a beast however.
Are you serious?

I'm in love with Emelin (huge mancrush), but he had a really hard time in the first period, causing a lot of turnover, while Kaberle was good.

It seems like most people didn't expect Kaberle to be good, or they just want to hate the trade, so they try to find something wrong with his play.

His 5vs5 was alright. He will get better once he's used to play with Price & Emelin.

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It doesn't make the Kaberle trade good.
But Kaberle was exactly what we needed.
Sounds like how Habs fans felt after the Cole signing.

Looks like we'll have to give them some time to adjust to good moves by management.

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Carey Price penalty shot save is turning point of the season!!, i can feel it, kabrele looked good on PP, were getting healthier, seeing Price come out so fired up, I'm calling it now, going up from here!!!

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I thought this was a typical win from a struggling team. They needed that kind of win, they'll play with more confidence next time they have to hold a lead.

You gotta understand this team's confidence is shaken up. The Habs have to rebuild that confidence little by little.
The problem with the Habs is that after a road win against a good team, their confidence gets too high and they don't play with a sense of urgency the following game

Especially if the next game is at home

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Well from the live action was hard to tell what was going on. The overhead showed him covering the pick with his hand. In the confusion it looked like Gorges thought that they were calling it a goal as many other did including the announcers. I think that is why Gorges was going nuts
You may want to watch it again, he never covered the puck with his hand.

On the overhead, he swatted the puck out of the air (away from the net) and as he fell, he landed on the puck. It was under his chest, not his hands.

By definition of the rule, I guess that's a penalty shot.

Although the reason I didn't know that was because CBC always used to mention closing your hand on the puck. I'm thinking probably because that's normally when a penalty shot is given because it's the only time that it's really easy to call it intentional.

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Desharnais is becoming a legit second line center. He's really good and keeps getting better.

His main weakness (other than being vertically challenged) used to be faceoffs. He's made tremendous progress in this aspect. He started the year around 30-40% and is now at 50%. Tonight he's won almost all of them.
Desharnais is put in a favorable situation playing between 2 big guys skating like the wind..

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