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Matt Read's next contract

View Poll Results: How much will he make?
Under $1M 0 0%
From $1-2M 13 26.53%
From $2-3M 28 57.14%
$3M+ a year 8 16.33%
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12-10-2011, 07:15 PM
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Matt Read's next contract

So, what do you think this guy's going to make when it's time to resign him? He's a valuable guy on the PK and has a lot more offensive spark than I think anyone predicted. I don't think there's ever been a game where I've thought "****ING MATT READ ****ING UP AGAIN GOD DAMN". He's always been solid and reliable. I didn't make an option on how long he'll sign for, but if I had to guess I'd say if he keeps up the way he plays it'll probably be from $2-3M for about 2 or 3 years.

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12-10-2011, 07:25 PM
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Isn't his current contract for three years? So I think it's a little early to say.

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12-10-2011, 07:27 PM
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Isn't his current contract for three years? So I think it's a little early to say.
This is more of a measure of his value. As in, does he play like like a $2.5M a year player to you? If so, that's more than likely what he'll be resigned for. Only reason why I mention length is because the Flyers like to hold onto solid PKer's like Read... so I imagine us trying to resign him for a multi year when he's up.

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12-10-2011, 07:33 PM
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Matt Read? - WOW!!

Are you drunk? Signing this guy who is unproven and a midget to a 3 yr one-way deal at avg $900,000K is absolutely absurd and a terrible move by the GM to begin with, let alone signing him to a lucrative long-term deal. This joke of over-paying for college free agents is hilarious!! Team scouting departments should be fired for this.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=894901

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Matt Read? - WOW!!

Are you drunk? Signing this guy who is unproven and a midget to a 3 yr one-way deal at avg $900,000K is absolutely absurd and a terrible move by the GM to begin with, let alone signing him to a lucrative long-term deal. This joke of over-paying for college free agents is hilarious!! Team scouting departments should be fired for this.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=894901
HAHA thanks. I've never seen that thread.

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12-10-2011, 07:43 PM
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It's a quote from some random person that Chris bothered to save for use at a later date. This does as much to make Chris look silly as that guy who was wrong, lol.

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HAHA thanks. I've never seen that thread.
I wondered how many people had seen that. It's one of my recent favorites.

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It's a quote from some random person that Chris bothered to save for use at a later date. This does as much to make Chris look silly as that guy who was wrong, lol.
Not sure why I look silly, but I remember my first beer too?

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I'd say between 1-3. He's off to a hot start but he has three years to earn/lose his next contract.

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2-3.

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In another year or two he'll probably be another dime-a-dozen grinder.

It isn't so uncommon for a guy like Read to make a splash by pushing himself to 500% on young legs. But that can't go on forever.

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IF he keeps playing like he is now he'll be somewhere between 2.5 and 3.5. If he gets better he could go up into the low-mid 4s.

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If his progress is linear, it'll be 3M+++. But, I think he'll settle somewhere just north of 3M considering the wide range of intangibles he brings to the team.

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Matt Read? - WOW!!

Are you drunk? Signing this guy who is unproven and a midget to a 3 yr one-way deal at avg $900,000K is absolutely absurd and a terrible move by the GM to begin with, let alone signing him to a lucrative long-term deal. This joke of over-paying for college free agents is hilarious!! Team scouting departments should be fired for this.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=894901
I remember that thread.

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12-11-2011, 01:21 AM
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Yeah. This question can wait a while. It will depend a lot on what the cap ceiling is when it's time to consider re-signing him for one thing.

He has started out great though.

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I wondered how many people had seen that. It's one of my recent favorites.



Not sure why I look silly, but I remember my first beer too?
It makes you look petty Chris. Who has the time to save those threads, really.

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$3M+ even if he regresses considerably.

Look at a what late-bloomer with a short track-record like Leino got.

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Firstly, he is 30 games into a 240+ game contract.

If he keeps his current pace (0,75 ppg) , Leino is a good comparison, both were UFAs, an Read will be an UFA at the end of his contract. About 7% of the upper limit, like Leino got.

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Somewhere between 1 and 7 million, I'd say.

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It makes you look petty Chris. Who has the time to save those threads, really.
Petty implies that I have some personal investment or personal interest or even a personal gain from pointing out that thread. However, I didn't even post in it. You're just saying stuff to say it now. It's an entertaining thread to read that not everyone has seen, and it happens to be relevant to the conversation. You however seem pretty bent out of shape over it. Let it go.

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Firstly, he is 30 games into a 240+ game contract.

If he keeps his current pace (0,75 ppg) , Leino is a good comparison, both were UFAs, an Read will be an UFA at the end of his contract. About 7% of the upper limit, like Leino got.
Again the voice of reason come into play. I don't see how it's so hard to understand things like this.

first, he has another 2 2/3rds years of his current contract to play out before he starts a new one and another 1 2/3rds before he can even sign an extension. He will be re-evaluated at the end of next season and his value will be set by what he brings to the table (scoring, 2-way game, minutes played, etc) and his value will be based upon a PERCENTAGE of the max cap as set by other similar players at the time of their signing. If he keeps playing at his current capacity and the cap goes over 70 mil (could EASILY be 75-80 mil by then IMO) then he could be getting 5 mil or more and that might just price him out of Phillies range just like what happened with Leino.

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It makes you look petty Chris. Who has the time to save those threads, really.
I have to side with Chris on this one. One of the big problems with internet messages boards is that anyone can sound off about a topic, insult those that disagree with them, and then never have to answer for it. That board wasn't someone expressing doubts about Read's ability; they were ripping on him and Flyers management.

I'm personally a huge fan of pulling up old message board posts when people wind up looking ridiculous. Accountability is a beautiful thing.

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This is an incredibly stupid thread. Whats the point of discussing another contract on a player with 2.75 years to go on a contract, when he's only played 30 games in his entire NHL career?

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This is an incredibly stupid thread. Whats the point of discussing another contract on a player with 2.75 years to go on a contract, when he's only played 30 games in his entire NHL career?
Honestly, I could see Read being a 35-50 producer through most of his late 20s with some sandpaper and defensive play.

His contract is an absolute steal for the next couple of years, but I could see him getting a similar deal to what Tyler Bozak received as a bribe to go to Toronto with the only difference of course being that Read would've had to wait 3 years while Bozak got his payday immediately.

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I have to side with Chris on this one. One of the big problems with internet messages boards is that anyone can sound off about a topic, insult those that disagree with them, and then never have to answer for it. That board wasn't someone expressing doubts about Read's ability; they were ripping on him and Flyers management.

I'm personally a huge fan of pulling up old message board posts when people wind up looking ridiculous. Accountability is a beautiful thing.
Honestly, you didn't need to wait 8 months for that guy to look ridiculous. You didn't even need to wait 8 hours.

On Read. I'm with the people who have said its dumb to predict a contract 3 years from now for a player who hasn't even played 30 games yet.

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Not worried about the next one... lets just hope he keeps making homer look like a genius for signing him for 3 @ 900k.... but he looks like he will be a 20 goal /40 points type of player maybe more... he does have more skill than I thought he did.

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