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12-04-2011, 04:33 PM
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In hindsight, they probably shouldn't have had BriseBois do the surgery.

It needed the steady hand of SFY. Now Ohlund's knees look like scrambled eggs.

I think what's keeping him out of the lineup is his knee, and Kubi-na.

So, two knees.

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12-04-2011, 05:00 PM
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In hindsight, they probably shouldn't have had BriseBois do the surgery.

It needed the steady hand of SFY. Now Ohlund's knees look like scrambled eggs.

I think what's keeping him out of the lineup is his knee, and Kubi-na.

So, two knees.
I can't figure out if you're high or just generally what the hell you're talking about.

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12-04-2011, 08:27 PM
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If Ohlund is put on the LTIR, which he certainly qualifies for at this point, the team can, without penalty, replace his cap hit for as long as Ohlund remains 'out'.

As long as Ohlund remains injured however, TB, or any team he is traded to, cannot release him. That's in the CBA to protect the players from just being dropped by their team when they get injured.

We saw it in training camp with Scott Jackson (who also had a knee thing). We couldn't even send him down until he was cleared by the doctors.
But the Lightning would still pay his full salary plus that of his replacement? If attendance slumps because of the Bolts poor play maybe Vinik would have to consider this option.

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12-05-2011, 09:11 AM
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I can't figure out if you're high or just generally what the hell you're talking about.
I don't think it'd shock many of us if SFY made a substantial trade, and Kubina and Ohlund create a redundancy.

Kubina, despite being a Lightning longer, is probably worse than Ohlund would be, and also hypothetically easier to trade, since he's in the last year of his deal. The two of them slowing down the d-corp simultaneously is not an appealing thing to happen either, and it doesn't upgrade the defense from what we had last year at all. (other than Gilroy for Lundin) with Kubina's regression, it probably makes it worse overall.

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But the Lightning would still pay his full salary plus that of his replacement? If attendance slumps because of the Bolts poor play maybe Vinik would have to consider this option.
Yes, Ohlund and any 'replacement player(s)' would get paid their NHL salaries during such a time.


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12-05-2011, 11:30 AM
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Well Kuby's out, but now we have Gervais. Ugh.

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Lightning coach Boucher says D Kubina (lower body) is out. He was hurt Saturday, previously undisclosed. ... Roloson in net. ... Gervais in.

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12-05-2011, 12:09 PM
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Well Kuby's out, but now we have Gervais. Ugh.
He can't be worse than Kubina.

Man, during year's playoffs I was really euphoric, Kubina was so good before his concussion. Sad to see a player once fancied by all regress that much in relatively short time (just look at his numbers with the Thrashers not even two years ago).


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12-05-2011, 03:53 PM
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Gervais isn't bad. I don't know why he's getting that rap.

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12-05-2011, 03:57 PM
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Yep, hes just kind of a known commodity.

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12-08-2011, 04:09 PM
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12-08-2011, 05:37 PM
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Good news/bad news

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Lightning announce Marty St. Louis sustained nasal and facial fractures as result of puck to face at skate. Good news the eye was not hurt
That's a nasty injury, but no damage to the eye. That is very good news.

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12-08-2011, 05:39 PM
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Well thank god his eye is ok.

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12-08-2011, 06:05 PM
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Rangers fan coming in peace. Hope Marty is back in action soon, glad his eye was ok. Hell of a player. Classy guy too.

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12-08-2011, 06:57 PM
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Can we update the title to Kubina (existing)?

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12-09-2011, 01:00 AM
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Well thank god his eye is ok.
Still painful, but I agree. It could have been a lot worse, hope he's back playing really soon. Marty's always been one of my favorite players.

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12-09-2011, 09:32 PM
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Defenseman Pavel Kubina (lower body) is on injured reserve retroactive to Monday. He is eligible to play Monday against the Devils at the St. Pete Times Forum. "That's what I'm shooting for," said Kubina, who skated with the team wearing a red no-contact jersey. … Center Nate Thompson (upper body) was expected to play against the Flyers, Boucher said.

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12-09-2011, 09:40 PM
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The title keeps getting longer and longer

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12-10-2011, 07:35 AM
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"Kubina, who skated with the team wearing a red no-contact jersey"

too bad he will soon wear his blue no-skating jersey

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12-12-2011, 12:51 AM
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12-12-2011, 06:52 AM
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It never fails. You lend a friend a nice shiny new toy to play with for a couple of weeks and it comes back all banged up. The best you can hope for is that they don't actually break it.

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12-12-2011, 05:49 PM
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How did st louis take a puck to the eye?

I thought he wore a visor (and iirc he wears it correctly, not pushed up so that it doesn't provide much protection)

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12-12-2011, 05:55 PM
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How did st louis take a puck to the eye?

I thought he wore a visor (and iirc he wears it correctly, not pushed up so that it doesn't provide much protection)
Dominic Moore hit him with a backhand shot that missed the net.

He's had a visor on for international games with team Canada where it's mandatory, but he's never had one in the NHL.

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12-12-2011, 07:17 PM
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Dominic Moore hit him with a backhand shot that missed the net.

He's had a visor on for international games with team Canada where it's mandatory, but he's never had one in the NHL.
Ah, ok. Guess I have a crappy memory, or I remembered him from the olympics w/ the visor on.

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12-12-2011, 07:53 PM
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Marty St. Louis is at the game, said broken nose and disrupted vision came from getting hit by puck Thurs. No long-term effects anticipated.
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Finally, St. Louis said no timetable for his return. Said he can't do anything physical until the blood drains from his eye.

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12-15-2011, 01:04 PM
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Lighting coach Guy Boucher was very negative about the prospects of seeing defenseman Mattias Ohlund back any time soon. Basically, Boucher said, Ohlund's knees are "worn down." Ohlund had arthroscopic surgery on both on Oct. 11 to clean out "loose bodies," but the recovery has been slow and painful and Ohlund is not even skating. "It's not about damage," Boucher said. "He's had enough damage over the years. It just becomes something that's difficult to manage because you can't do much more than has been done. It's pain tolerance now. It's a question of mobility. It's a question of can he skate at the level in the NHL that he needs to follow?"

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