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12-14-2011, 12:57 AM
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Who have been the team's three best dmen to date?

Just curious - for as much as we **** on Gragnani, I think the unit as a whole, and other specific individuals, have done okay. Who have been the best three, in order in your eyes?

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Just curious - for as much as we **** on Gragnani, I think the unit as a whole, and other specific individuals, have done okay. Who have been the best three, in order in your eyes?
In order?

1. Regehr
2. Sekera
3. Leopold

Other than 2-3 expected rookie mistakes, McNabb's been very steady IMO.

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Just curious - for as much as we **** on Gragnani, I think the unit as a whole, and other specific individuals, have done okay. Who have been the best three, in order in your eyes?
In order? Hmm. That's tough. The funny thing is, statistically (both in terms of the basic stats as well as the more advanced metrics) MAG has to be there. The Sabres are simply scoring more and conceding less when he's on the ice (coincidence or not).

For me though, I have to go Regher, Sekera, Ehrhoff. HM to Leopold, who's overall faced easier minutes than Gragnani, even.

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1. Regehr - has he had a bad game yet?
2. Sekera - playing a huge role, killing penalties and showing good instincts in our zone. Love him this year so far
3. Ehrhoff - minute machine who earned a lot of points for the fight against Ottawa, he has been fine after a slow start. Obviously would like to see more points out of him, but as a defenseman overall, he has shown his value

HM: McNabb, looks awesome to me so far, all things considered. Just need a bigger sample size

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1. Regehr
2. Sekera
3. Ehrhoff

Sekera and Ehrhoff are pretty much interchangable in the 2 & 3 spots, but I think these three guys have been without doubt, the team's best defensemen.

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I agree with the previous posts; Regehr, Ehrhoff and Sekera.



Ehrhoff has been disappointing on the PP to this point. But I put that on Ruff more than him.

We need Myers back and on his game. We are such a different team when he is going.

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We need Myers back and on his game. We are such a different team when he is going.
we are, but I don't think the unit has been bad with or without him. Our lapses on D tend to come from blown assignments at the hands of our forwards, and our obvious overwhelming downfall is the lack of offense.

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Ehrhoff, Sekera, and Regehr

e: I see I'm not alone in this

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we are, but I don't think the unit has been bad with or without him. Our lapses on D tend to come from blown assignments at the hands of our forwards, and our obvious overwhelming downfall is the lack of offense.
I was thinking more along the lines of what he can do for us offensively when he is on his game.

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Regehr. Had one bad game, can't think of any others.
Sekera. Had that weakass stretch of 3 bad/decent/bad games, other than that, he's been real solid.
Ehrhoff. His chippy side is becoming more visible, he should get rolling on the PP soon. Provided he plays there.

HM: Leo. I was not that impressed with him last season, despite the points I thought his defensive game was "meh".
However, he's been quietly steady in his own end this year, can't complain.

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I was thinking more along the lines of what he can do for us offensively when he is on his game.
Without a doubt. His long stride on the rush that allows him to enter the zone with such ease is missed. Opponents have to back off a bit because he is deceptively fast breaking in.

I know it maybe sounds a bit crazy, but Myers going down has allowed us to witness the calm, appropriately-placed demeanor of McNabb.

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1. Regehr - Easily our best and most consistent. I've given my thoughts of him countless times already so you guys probably don't need to hear them again. He's a rock defensively. Couple that with physicality (has had some beautiful hits so far) and a mean streak (fought Malone, then Chara for God's sake) and he's easily a HUGE part of this team. My favorite player on the team, love him.
2. Sekera - Has played solid hockey the whole year and very consistently. Not chipping in as much offensively for an offensive defenseman but he's playing sound defense and he's playing a safe, steady game. Also joins the rush sometimes and never seems out of position going back the other way when he does so, or when he pinches.
3. Ehrhoff - I've got Sekera ahead of him only due to his slow start but he's been a lot better the past month. He's playing much better defensively and he's proving he can play a lot of minutes. Helps the transition big-time with his swift skating and puck-moving ability and as shown tonight, does have a bit of a mean streak when he gets angry. I loved that he stood up for Miller. He's not putting up as much offense lately, but I think that'll come in time. Love this guy.

Leopold has also been quite good, on both sides of the puck. It was definitely noticeable when he was out of the lineup with the injury. He easily makes the team much better back there. McNabb has also really impressed me; it's going to be real hard to send him back down. I feel he can do everything Weber does now and he's only a rookie. He's bigger than Weber and a bit more physical too. Doesn't look out of place up here at all.


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1. Regehr - Easily our best and most consistent. I've given my thoughts of him countless times already so you guys probably don't need to hear them again. He's a rock defensively. Couple that with physicality (has had some beautiful hits so far) and a mean streak (fought Malone, then Chara for God's sake) and he's easily a HUGE part of this team. My favorite player on the team, love him.
2. Sekera - Has played solid hockey the whole year and very consistently. Not chipping in as much offensively for an offensive defenseman but he's playing sound defense and he's playing a safe, steady game. Also joins the rush sometimes and never seems out of position going back the other way when he does so, or when he pinches.
3. Ehrhoff - I've got Sekera ahead of him only due to his slow start but he's been a lot better the past month. He's playing much better defensively and he's proving he can play a lot of minutes. Helps the transition big-time with his swift skating and puck-moving ability and as shown tonight, does have a bit of a mean streak when he gets angry. I loved that he stood up for Miller. He's not putting up as much offense lately, but I think that'll come in time. Love this guy.

Leopold has also been quite good, on both sides of the puck. It was definitely noticeable when he was out of the lineup with the injury. He easily makes the team much better back there. McNabb has also really impressed me; it's going to be real hard to send him back down. I feel he can do everything Weber does now and he's only a rookie. He's bigger than Weber and a bit more physical too. Doesn't look out of place up here at all.
I hope Ehrhoff gets some respect around town for standing up for Miller tonight. Wasn't a dangerous bump at all, but you don't do that to the other team's goaltender. Ehrhoff enforced that without a second thought tonight.

I also hope he didn't hurt his hand on Greening's visor. His body language as well as heading right off to the dressing room (Greening went to the box) has me a little worried.

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I hope Ehrhoff gets some respect around town for standing up for Miller tonight. Wasn't a dangerous bump at all, but you don't do that to the other team's goaltender. Ehrhoff enforced that without a second thought tonight.

I also hope he didn't hurt his hand on Greening's visor. His body language as well as heading right off to the dressing room (Greening went to the box) has me a little worried.
I too was worried but I guess they said that he got cut from his visor when he and
Greening fell at the end of the fight... you can kind of see Ehrhoff's face smushed into his visor and the ice when he falls on him.

I really loved seeing that from Ehrhoff, should go a long way in that dressing room.

1) Regher
2) Sekera
3) Ehrhoff
4) Leopold

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Came in here to say what already appears to be a strong consensus. Regehr, Sekera, Ehrhoff, in that order.

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Regehr, Sekera, Ehrhoff...HM to Leopold....If Stafford isn't careful I could see Ehrhoff getting his A

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In order?

1. Regehr
2. Sekera
3. Leopold

Other than 2-3 expected rookie mistakes, McNabb's been very steady IMO.
Agreed all around. And Brady's giving them a lot of reasons to not send him back. The Hoff gets an HM due to the minutes he ate fairly well during the latest injury spat.

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Leopold is kind of like Lydman in that I can go weeks without realizing he's even out there, which is great for a defenseman. A lot of guys can learn from the way he takes away space from an attacking forward and is adept at making simple plays.

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how Leopold and Regher are not on everybodies top 2 list is beyond me. #3 is debateable but Sekera is supposed to b e a highly skilled d-man, but his offensive contributions should be 4-6 points higher if that's the case. Ehrhoff isn't lighting the world on fire either but he is getting a lot of shots on net and he's at least meeting his status quo.

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honorable mention to McNabb who has made the gragnani decision look even stupider in limited time

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1. Regehr - Dude's been SOLID. Exactly the kind of player this team needed.

2. Ehrhoff - Aside from a mediocre start, Ehrhoff has been a workhorse for this team. He's putting up good numbers and his response to a Senator bumping into Miller at the end of the third last night was just icing on the cake. So excited to see him here for 9 more years. Ehrhoff at $4million is a complete steal

3. Andrej Sekera/Jordan Leopold - Reggie has been our most consistent and stable defensemen for the past two seasons. He's been playing really well in his own end and has great up ice rushes and outlet passes. Leopold has been great also, when playing. His pairing with Montador might have been our beset last season, and he is always an offensive threat, while still playing pretty solid defense.

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