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3 Stars & GBR: Game 28 vs. Dallas Stars

View Poll Results: 3 Stars?
Artem Anisimov 2 3.39%
Ryan Callahan 0 0%
Michael Del Zotto 21 35.59%
Brandon Dubinsky 8 13.56%
Steve Eminger 11 18.64%
Ruslan Fedotenko 0 0%
Marian Gaborik 2 3.39%
Dan Girardi 3 5.08%
Carl Hagelin 6 10.17%
Henrik Lundqvist 57 96.61%
Ryan McDonagh 9 15.25%
Brad Richards 0 0%
Derek Stepan 2 3.39%
Anton Stralman 23 38.98%
Other 1 1.69%
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12-13-2011, 11:56 PM
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Woywitka.
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You're right it was Woywitka, not sure why I confused him for Mitchell.

I didn't have the luxury of HDTV and replay.

Should be more sharp next time, my mistake.

Still poor decision with the puck. Gotta make the simple play on the boards.


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12-13-2011, 11:57 PM
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psssssst........PP goals in 8 out of the last 10 games.....
ok, now the rest of my post............

Yes its been better as of late, but watch, when the power play doesnt click, these types of games will result in lost points.

Tonight, they didnt score on the pp.......and we lost. 8 pp goals out of the last 10 games doesnt help when we went 0 for 4 tonight.

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12-14-2011, 12:02 AM
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What a sleepy game....

Here's some audio from the post-game locker room.

You can also follow me on Twitter (www.Twitter.com/RothmanHockey) for this as soon as I post it...

Here's my story: http://insidehockey.com/rangers-star...l-re-alignment

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NEW YORK – It was a game devoid of passion. You could sense it in the crowd, on the ice, and on both team’s benches.

With unfamiliar Dallas (17-11-1) at Madison Square Garden, there just wasn’t much energy in the building for this inter-conference matchup on Tuesday evening. By the time the 1-0 Dallas win ended, many observers called it the most boring Rangers game of the season.

“Not a whole hell of a lot of hate out there,” said Rangers coach John Tortorella.








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12-14-2011, 12:11 AM
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ok, now the rest of my post............

Yes its been better as of late, but watch, when the power play doesnt click, these types of games will result in lost points.

Tonight, they didnt score on the pp.......and we lost. 8 pp goals out of the last 10 games doesnt help when we went 0 for 4 tonight.
The power play is too predictable. Del Zotto and Stepan are both pass first guys. Both of their shots is like watching an egg toss. Add on top of that they never do shoot and I feel like I'm watching Tom Poti again. Everyone stands around, and usually the puck finds Richards and he shoots, same thing every time. Eventually teams will start to collapse down low because they know the point men don't shoot and they have soft shots.

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12-14-2011, 12:13 AM
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Well...it wasn't necessarily a "bounce" or a "softie" so much as it was one of the dumbest plays a Ranger has made - scratch that - a player in the entire league has made this season.

Just watch the highlight...and laugh and/or cringe at Woywitka.
Thanks for the response.

Eh, oh well, can't win them all. I don't get too upset after losses when the team isn't that bad. They weren't flying, but I thought it was a decent 53 minutes from what I saw.

Del Zotto continues to be impressive. He was jumping into the play ALOT tonight. He's very smart about it though.

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12-14-2011, 12:40 AM
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Honestly the games are always terrible between conferances. I dont like the idea of playing these teams twice now, not at all. Too much feeling out and trap hockey.
This is the future hockey fans--starting next season more games will look like this one. Give me Boston, Buffalo or Toronto or even Tampa Bay--instead, we'll get to see Calgary, Minnesota and Columbus (and let's not forget Dallas) that much more regularly. Less passion, more balance! That's the motto of the "new" NHL.

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12-14-2011, 01:52 AM
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This is the future hockey fans--starting next season more games will look like this one. Give me Boston, Buffalo or Toronto or even Tampa Bay--instead, we'll get to see Calgary, Minnesota and Columbus (and let's not forget Dallas) that much more regularly. Less passion, more balance! That's the motto of the "new" NHL.
Conversely, the fact that they will be played twice a year, every year, means that there is the opportunity for them to turn into rivalry games.

Glass half full or empty.....

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12-14-2011, 04:09 AM
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Expected loss. After a couple of blowouts of course they get beaten by a scrub goalie and look unable to generate any real offense. We're always going to see a few games like this one. I'm not worried. Couple of things:

- Erixon is looking good in CT. Bring him up and sit Woywitka.
- Richards, DZ and Steps can't be on the same pp unit. Too many passers.
- Reunite Feds with Boyle and Prust
- Put Hags on Richards' LW
- Play Dubi with Mitchell and Avery (Dubi takes FO's, then switches to lw)


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12-14-2011, 05:32 AM
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The main difference in that game, and why we looked like "last year's Rangers" was because Brad Richards had an off night.

If he connects just right on 2 or 3 of the scoring chances that developed, we win that game easily.

Dallas played "Renney" hockey, finally got their chance on a mistake, and that was all it took.

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12-14-2011, 06:07 AM
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LOL, Rangers fans focusing on EC as usual. What a joke.

We all know Avery would have done a lot more with his 4 minutes of ice time.
Don't want to turn this into another Avery thread so lets keep the focus on EC...what did he do in his almost 10 minutes of TOI?

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12-14-2011, 06:47 AM
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I'm not even mad.
The New York Rangers didn't show up tonight. They kept it close in a defense game, and once botched play ended it.

It wasn't a disgrace, it wasn't a brutal beatdown. It was hardly a hockey game. Even Cally couldn't seem to find a way to make a difference. I'll be watching for the rebound game.
Yeah. I wanted 9-7 when the month started. When Sauer went down I said I would be happy with 8-7. They're 4-2-1.

Next.

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12-14-2011, 08:07 AM
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1-0 loss. Sweet. Da ****?

LOL @ Woy

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12-14-2011, 08:16 AM
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I think it's funny that the blame is being heaped on the guys on the third and fourth lines. What about those guys who are paid many millions every year and play 20 to 25 minutes every game who were hired to score goals and create chances? Gabby did nothing in the game. Richards did nothing in the game.
But, no, we're all p.o.'d at the guys who play 10 or 12 minutes who's job is to hold the fort while the big guys catch their breath between shifts...and maybe occasionally add some secondary scoring.
And that's the key word...their goals are SUPPOSED to be secondary...where's the anger for the ineffectiveness of our PRIMARY scorers last night.

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12-14-2011, 08:26 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me to come here and see the scapegoats that are seemingly pulled out of thin air. Nobody did anything offensively tonight and Erik Christensen is getting picked on? Richards, Gaborik, Callahan, etc, have been carrying the load all season and their not entitled to an off night? These kind of nights happen, to every team. I cant believe some people watch hockey and dont understand that.

We lost this game because John Mitchell, who wont be on this team once we get healthy, made a bad nuetral zone turnover. Then, Jeff Woywitka, who is the #8 defenseman on this roster, made an even worse play.

If you want to blame something for the game, blame the injuries.

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12-14-2011, 08:29 AM
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Dallas is a pretty good team and their goalie was hot. It happens.

Relax.

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Hank was the best player. Good game from Stralman, and Ani was the best forward for us last night.

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Wasn't really a bad game, they just weren't quite sharp enough and Dallas was playing some real good D and kept the Rangers from getting to rebounds or generating offense on the rush.

Sucks to lose it on the play that happened...Woywitka kinda screwed up and the forwards didn't get back to pick up the late man, and that was it.

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New lineup:

Anisimov - Stepan - Gaborik
Hagelin - Richards - Callahan
Avery - Dubinsky - Mitchell
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

McDonagh - Girardi
Del Zotto - Eminger
Erixon - Stralman

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New lineup:

Anisimov - Stepan - Gaborik
Hagelin - Richards - Callahan
Avery - Dubinsky - Mitchell
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

McDonagh - Girardi
Del Zotto - Eminger
Erixon - Stralman
This should be the lineup but wont be.

When Torts gets into a ****-swinging contest, he will not relent, not even for the good of the team. He has killed Dubinsky. He has killed Avery.

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This should be the lineup but wont be.

When Torts gets into a ****-swinging contest, he will not relent, not even for the good of the team. He has killed Dubinsky. He has killed Avery.
He has led the team to a 17-7-4 record....

People seriously love only looking at certain things. I don't care if Avery never plays another NHL game, nor Dubinsky score another goal, if the TEAM keep winning

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12-14-2011, 10:01 AM
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New lineup:

Anisimov - Stepan - Gaborik
Hagelin - Richards - Callahan
Avery - Dubinsky - Mitchell
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

McDonagh - Girardi
Del Zotto - Eminger
Erixon - Stralman
Exactly the changes I asked for a few posts up, except I'd like to see Dubinsky - Mitchell - Avery with Dubi taking the faceoffs for Mitchell.

Edit: That being said, I agree with Nich. Torts has done a great job so far, and as long as the team keeps a winning record, I'm more than fine with the lineup as it is.

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Agree with this. It get so frustrating when so much of this board is taken up with arguments over with medicore 4th liner we should go with....
i dont feel either of them are mediocre 4th liners. its just a fact of life that the coach doesnt like EC or Avery and the both get treated like 4th liners. EC needs more minutes on the top 2 to be effective, and Avery is a good 3rd liner, who can move up if injuries are an issue.

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New lineup:

Anisimov - Stepan - Gaborik
Hagelin - Richards - Callahan
Avery - Dubinsky - Mitchell
Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

McDonagh - Girardi
Del Zotto - Eminger
Erixon - Stralman


Posted this in the GDT, except I know Avery won't be back in the lineup so I had EC included

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Conversely, the fact that they will be played twice a year, every year, means that there is the opportunity for them to turn into rivalry games.

Glass half full or empty.....
good point. i hope this happens and not what we see often between rivals. Its amazing difference i watch an San Jose vs LA game and it so exciting and than when i watch them play the Rangers the games are quite boring even if we do win its like a 2-1 not much in it, however important those points are. For me i would keep it as 1 game max vs these team 2 is a bit much, i mean i though that is why they lessened it before because rival games were more fun to watch.

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i dont feel either of them are mediocre 4th liners. its just a fact of life that the coach doesnt like EC or Avery and the both get treated like 4th liners. EC needs more minutes on the top 2 to be effective, and Avery is a good 3rd liner, who can move up if injuries are an issue.
bingo, its like Torts wants Avery to fail. When he does well he does not see minutes when he doesent do much 1 or 2 shifts hes benched and scratched the next game. I just think and it quite ovbious hes much harder on him because he doesent like him. The fact that he even gets in the lineup should be telling about Avery's value because if Torts had another option even of somewhat lesser he would take it but at this point Avery still offer more than EC so when we lose 1 or 2 games Avery is put back in. Its not really fair imo what torts is doing hes using him for his benefits and not at all supporting him as a player and some ppl are falling for it.

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