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Which defenseman should we play on his off-side?

View Poll Results: Who do you play on his off-side?
Gorges 24 52.17%
Kaberle 1 2.17%
Emelin 8 17.39%
Campoli 10 21.74%
Gill 3 6.52%
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12-15-2011, 02:50 PM
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Which defenseman should we play on his off-side?

Obviously, this applies to our LH skaters.

To me, the obvious choice would be Gorges if not for the fact that Subban and him form our best pair. Breaking that duo would seem as logical as breaking Desharnais's line... But then again, sometimes, you need to balance things out for the better of the greater cause.

Another guy I would like to see on his offside is Emelin. If only because I think he will eventually be paired with Markov, but I would perhaps wait until the General is back to do so... Putting him on his off side with a defensive liability could deter his confidence, but at the same time, I think he could fair pretty well.

Puck movers like Kaberle and Campoli might not see the ice as well from the other side, but given their vision and experience, I would be curious to see what they can do when lined up on the right side. But, like Spacek last year, they could end up struggling to use that good first pass of theirs, so they don't seem as fit for that role.

Gill, even though I like the guy, can't skate or pass to save his life, has been somewhat of a turnover vender this year and I fear putting him on his off-side would only make things worst.

After, debating all of the above, I have to go with Gorges and/or Emelin, in case we need to sit Diaz or an injury occurs to one of him or Subban. These would be my pairings with we have right now...

Safest (IMO):

Kaberle - Subban
Emelin - Gorges
Gill - Diaz

Optimal (if Emelin can adjust quickly):

Gorges - Subban
Kaberle - Emelin
Gill - Diaz

I don't see the point of throwing Campoli in the mix. I find he doesn't bring much except offense and we're covered on that front with Subban, Kaberle and Diaz. I'd rather play our young guns and keep #17 in case of injury...

I was cool with him playing the other night cause we got to see how he fits, but he and Kaberle looked very ordinary in the defensive zone to say the least...

What's your take?


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12-15-2011, 02:57 PM
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The no brainer is Emelin. 1-because he's played RH a lot in the KHL so it won't be a big adjustment. 2-because if he spolits time with Diaz which is what it looks like right now, they don't have to move Campoli or Gorges back and forth.

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12-15-2011, 02:59 PM
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The no brainer is Emelin. 1-because he's played RH a lot in the KHL so it won't be a big adjustment. 2-because if he spolits time with Diaz which is what it looks like right now, they don't have to move Campoli or Gorges back and forth.
wow Emelin is ambidextrous. sweet deal


Gorges is the safe bet. He's played on the right side every year except this one

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12-15-2011, 03:01 PM
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I wouldn't play Gill on the right side, even if you pointed a gun at me. It would be a disaster!

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12-15-2011, 03:07 PM
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I wouldn't play Gill on the right side, even if you pointed a gun at me. It would be a disaster!
I hear ya!!! hahahaha

But I would still be curious to know the reasoning of the poster who voted him as the ideal candidate...

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12-15-2011, 03:10 PM
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Gorges would make the easiest transition without sacrificing too much effectiveness. Although clearly, him playing on his natural side makes him that much better.

Ideally, Emelin would be best suited for the right side so we can pair him with Markov. Here's hoping he makes that transition.

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12-15-2011, 03:17 PM
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wow Emelin is ambidextrous. sweet deal


Gorges is the safe bet. He's played on the right side every year except this one
Gorges should be on our shutdown pair with PK. If you put him back on the right who is your shutdown pair?

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12-15-2011, 03:18 PM
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We've seen Gorges on the right, so I wouldn't be too concerned. I don't know enough about Emelin from the few times I've seen him there.

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12-15-2011, 03:19 PM
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Gill, Kaberle,Markov can only ever play LD.

Subban,Diaz, Weber can only ever play RD.

Guys like Campoli, Gorges and Emelin all play both sides. Those 3 have played both sides prior to the NHL.

Asking someone like Gill, Kaberle,Markov to switch sides in the NHL isn't even something a coach would even consider IMO.

I think the reason people are noticing that Emelin is having a harder time playing RD than the natural LD is because positioning is even more important playing RD when you are a left hand shot. IMO Emelin will be just fine playing RD when he gets better positioning in general.

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12-15-2011, 03:21 PM
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Emelin's stated that he's like the honey badger, he doesn't give a **** if he's left or right as long as he plays.

I forget which article I read it from, but I'm pretty sure it was on RDS.

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Yeah, Gorges proved he's very comfortable on the right side in the last few years.

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12-15-2011, 03:52 PM
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I'd try Gorges and if he can pull it off I think re-signing him would be even more beneficial. We seem to always have a deficiency on one side.

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spacek.....................uhhhh
nvm

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I've said it before but
Emelin-Subban
Kaberle-Gorges
would be pretty good.

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12-16-2011, 12:08 AM
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Emelin's stated that he's like the honey badger, he doesn't give a **** if he's left or right as long as he plays.

I forget which article I read it from, but I'm pretty sure it was on RDS.
well played sir

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12-16-2011, 08:15 AM
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Subban-Emelin i think would be awesome together...
Gorges-Kabs i think Gorges can play with anyone and either side...
PP you put PK and Kabs
PK Emelin and Gorges
And the rest doesnt really matter as long those 4 play together...

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well played sir
Was hoping someone would get that one

I was serious though, he's got the will to play wherever, so I say just play him, he gets better and more comfortable every game.

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Emelin hasn't been nearly as effective since he's started playing on the right side. I'm sure he says he's fine with it, since his goal is PT, but at the end of the day he should be on the left side. I wouldn't mind seeing Campoli play on the right side, I feel as though he's savvy enough to adjust, and Gorges has been great on the right side throughout his career.

Kaberle-Subban
Emelin-Gorges
Gill-Campoli

Thats what I'd roll with. Emelin needs a calm force beside him, as does Subban, pairing Emelin and Subban might look good on paper, but I can just imagine it would lead to alot of breakdowns. Let Kabby mentor Subban a little bit, and have Subban play more a defensive roll, and then let his offense come naturally. Right now I think he's pushing it, and it's hurting him. I'd also like to see Emelin try to step up his offensive game next to Gorges.

Also considering his poor play last night, I wouldn't be surprised to see Emelin in the PB and Diaz brought back in for a few games at least, but ultimaterly the lines above are what I want to see until Markov comes back.

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12-16-2011, 10:43 AM
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Emelin hasn't been nearly as effective since he's started playing on the right side. I'm sure he says he's fine with it, since his goal is PT, but at the end of the day he should be on the left side. I wouldn't mind seeing Campoli play on the right side, I feel as though he's savvy enough to adjust, and Gorges has been great on the right side throughout his career.

Kaberle-Subban
Emelin-Gorges
Gill-Campoli

Thats what I'd roll with. Emelin needs a calm force beside him, as does Subban, pairing Emelin and Subban might look good on paper, but I can just imagine it would lead to alot of breakdowns. Let Kabby mentor Subban a little bit, and have Subban play more a defensive roll, and then let his offense come naturally. Right now I think he's pushing it, and it's hurting him. I'd also like to see Emelin try to step up his offensive game next to Gorges.

Also considering his poor play last night, I wouldn't be surprised to see Emelin in the PB and Diaz brought back in for a few games at least, but ultimaterly the lines above are what I want to see until Markov comes back.
This could actually work. You try to distribute the shutdown job between the top two pairs instead of having a top shutdown pair.

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There's a significant problem with this thread. People can't tell the difference between left and right

I can't count the number of times I've seen Subban - Markov or Gionta - Pleks - Camm in people lineup's. Hint: if you don't see a problem with these lines, you're part of the problem


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I've said it before but
Emelin-Subban
Kaberle-Gorges
would be pretty good.
TurnoverFest

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TurnoverFest
Emelin has the least turnovers of all our D.

Emelin will be fine on the off-side once he adjusts. He adjusted fine to the left side, his problem now is he has to work on the positioning for the right side too, which will take another 3-5 games like it did the first time around. Eventually his desire to jump over to the left side will go away and he'll be fine.

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When Markov is back:

Markov-Gorges
Kaberle-Subban
Gill/Campoli-Diaz/Emelin/Weber

For now:

Gorges-Subban
Kaberle-Emelin
Gill/Campoli-Diaz/Weber

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